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Matthew Beet posted:hammering scum doesn't vindicate someone as town fwiw. in last nights situation there was really only one easy course of action and that was for bowmore to jump to the coq vote, but he held out as long as he could for the mmg vote. he was advocating to try have two people move to secure a lynch as opposed to one (him) moving earlier on. i particularly didn't think the case on mmg was stronger than coq so while it's a point of interest to draw attention to it isn't a smoking gun by any means. he's not on many peoples radar so i'm wasting time my pursuing it anymore than that atm. if he's scum, town has lost. i am posting in between card games here but my memory is that tbk voted krell, agreed to vote asphyxious d2, then never really cast a vote of consequence, kind of like gwyn. voted mmg yesterday rather than voting coq
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i'd have haddaway - what is love on 24/7 so i'm the only vote left to cast. toml said he'd be back before hammer so we're not gonna miss out, but this current spread is interesting. coq: so i read all of coq's posts. it didn't take that long. he pretty much stuck to voting toml every single day, picked on gaspy a few times. stuck up for me, then turned on me yesterday. mentioned bowmore once but literally does not mention anyone else, ever. voted MMG last night (well he's not gonna vote himself though, duh) gwyn: starts of focusing on bowmore and toml, says something about bowmore and gaspy i didn't get, says tbks' theories are bad and could be a PGO (didn't think anyone commented on this but it was a theory that was raised a few games back), kept pikcing on toml to sort of defend gaspy about not explaining his TBK vote, tried to get gaspy to lay out how he knew there was an SK (pushing for role claim), takes gaspy's role claim at face value and keeps defending gaspy, gets suss on mith, votes MCED on the first night split, waits till day 3 to start asking about BP, says he was now suss on gaspy but votes me, admits to *limited* BP when questioned, gets really active today compared to previous days and gets suss on bowmore and mith but votes bowmore. Two things of interest with Gwyn, he's gaspy's bro so they're prone to trust each other easily I find, whether for good or bad, and secondly: he's become very active today compared to previous days. TBK: is odd. He' rarely posts more than a sentence or two. His biggest effort post WHOLE GAME was a theory around Bifauxnens anagram joke post about sega's or something. it's sort of odd because no one seemed to care. Comes out day 2 talking about multiple scum teams/ serial killers, etc, votes mith after back and forth about gaspy voting him, asks bowmore why he voted bees, votes bowmore because of it, ends up voting MMG at the split, pro me last night, dirty on bowmore, but comes out and votes me this morning, queries toml on why he's pushing for miths role? votes me again with his last post of today stating he can't get a read on me but bees and bowmore are suss on me. This is after bowmore has posted twice that he's getting less and less suss on me and bee's has literally said "i always think beet is suss". ~break~ i'm out of wine.
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Those On My Left posted:i am posting in between card games here but my memory is that tbk voted krell, agreed to vote asphyxious d2, then never really cast a vote of consequence, kind of like gwyn. voted mmg yesterday rather than voting coq that's not entirely accurate - I posted an  about lynching gaspy during day one jokes and japes. I voted for mith day 2 but unvoted and went to trivia, at which point gough got lynched without any input from me, day three I started voting bowmore because of the poo poo he was throwing at Bees but shifted to MMG as arguments were made based on this post (in response to coq throwing shade at now confirmed town gaspy) that were convincing at the timeMysticalMachineGun posted:You make a solid point actually (you were more missing for d1 and d2) benefit of hindsight, but seeing as MMG was third party I don't really think voting for him was a bad vote. Didn't hammer coq because other people seemed keen to do so.
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May 1, 2015 11:47
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tbf beet it's not hard to miss things that bowmore says in his deluge of 
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Hmm this may be nothing but it piqued my interest. When quizzed last night on why he didn't seem to respond to gaspy voting him, TBK said:thatbastardken posted:nah overreacting to being poked is pretty classic scum behaviour. gaspy is a very procedural player, likes to run little tests and stratagems. thatbastardken posted:I'm not concerned with gaspy taking pot-shots because it's a familiar pattern. I prefer to draw motivations from why people vote for other people. so bowmore either missed the obvious, or TBK played it down and didn't correct it?  TBK did actually repeatedly ask gaspy and others plenty of times about the votethatbastardken posted:Yeah I wouldn't mind knowing why me as well. thatbastardken posted:I can understand that people might be demoralized, but yeah, TOML is doing the right thing. Gaspy, why are you voting for me? It's a fair question. thatbastardken posted:what investigation though? you haven't really done anything. thatbastardken posted:I can only comment on what you've done in the thread, I have no idea what you might have done last night in terms of investigating. thatbastardken posted:that...seems reasonable. much better than gaspy's 'ohohoho I have a secret but i'll never tell' school of play. thatbastardken posted:i just wanted to say this is completely inaccurate, I lay low no matter whether I'm town or scum. a chill playstyle is pretty much my mafia thing, getting mad about games is for turbo-nerds.
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May 1, 2015 11:51
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thatbastardken posted:tbf beet it's not hard to miss things that bowmore says in his deluge of yeah it's no biggy, i'm just literally summarising some players and seeing if it helps collect my thoughts or others 
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May 1, 2015 11:53
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you gotta remember, i'm suss on everyone. 24/7 
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May 1, 2015 11:53
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 tick tock. i'm happy to jump on the gwyn vote. he's not tickling my town bone. tbk probably too. mith i'm sorta okay with. i just looked at her posts and yeah i was wrong in what i said earlier. she was clearly pushing for coq. what i'm not happy with. toml and tbk have bounced off each other and covered each other (it sorta looks like it anyhow) on the first 2 days and into part of yesterday. gaspy and mith and others even commented on it. it just stands out to me.
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May 1, 2015 12:07
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bees i have no idea on because he doesn't post enough and he just keeps voting me. it's either the height of cunning or he legit has no clue ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
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May 1, 2015 12:12
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I would lynch ken
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May 1, 2015 12:12
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ken or gwyn
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May 1, 2015 12:13
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I don't want to lynch myself but I'll go in on gwyn? he really seems to have lost any love of the game after gaspy got killed.
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May 1, 2015 12:14
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##vote Gwynplaine
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May 1, 2015 12:15
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you're leaning more ken than gwyn now? yeah at this stage i'm happy on either. gwyn's the easiest for us to get, one more after i vote. ken we need to shift two.
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May 1, 2015 12:16
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only one needed now. hammer if you wanna.
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May 1, 2015 12:17
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Matthew Beet posted:you're leaning more ken than gwyn now?
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May 1, 2015 12:17
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##unvote
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May 1, 2015 12:18
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uh that makes me more likely to vote you tbk, to be honest.
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May 1, 2015 12:19
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##vote Ken
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May 1, 2015 12:20
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bowmore posted:the BP thing is throwing me off literally the only reason I'm not 95% sure gwyn is scum. But I think he's SK at best.
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May 1, 2015 12:21
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##vote Bowmore
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May 1, 2015 12:21
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Vote Ken, deal with Gwyn tomorrow
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May 1, 2015 12:22
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bowmore posted:the BP thing is throwing me off yeah it threw toml too. it actually doesn't bother me because i can see myself doing that as scum and I've filed that one in that bank actually.
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May 1, 2015 12:22
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thatbastardken posted:##vote Bowmore
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May 1, 2015 12:22
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What on earth are you doing ken
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gently caress, meant ##vote Matthew Beet what do you want from me here, dude? I try to help you out and you spit in my face. we had a lynch shot on someone pretty much everyone is suss on.
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May 1, 2015 12:23
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yeaaah ##vote thatbastardken
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May 1, 2015 12:23
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why would you back off on that?
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scum fuckery, for certain.
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May 1, 2015 12:25
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what fuckery? we got an hour so plenty of time to talk it out. im suss on gwyn but no where near as much as tbk.
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tbk and gwyn are my top 2 scum picks atm
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May 1, 2015 12:26
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ok, lets talk it out, but someone please unvote me so scum don't drop the hammer.
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bp could have been a fake claim, no way to test that without a flip really
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May 1, 2015 12:27
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thatbastardken posted:ok, lets talk it out, but someone please unvote me so scum don't drop the hammer. i'm pretty sure they wont.
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May 1, 2015 12:27
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I don't know if bees or Gwyn are around pretty sure Mith is the only one that can hammer
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bowmore posted:tbk and gwyn are my top 2 scum picks atm bowmore posted:bp could have been a fake claim, no way to test that without a flip really I will help nail gwyn - that would validate your theory and answer any questions about bulletproofing. it is too late in the game to gently caress about lynching town.
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