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Space Bat
Apr 17, 2009

hold it now hold it now hold it right there
you wouldn't drop, couldn't drop diddy, you wouldn't dare

crimea posted:



A slight deviation from orange, I feel as though a strong and resurgent Western Rome should only mean the Eastern Romans should wither. Inverse from OTL, karmatic balance and all that. While the slavs remained in the east, over the course of 300 years the Eastern Empire collapsed into many dukedoms and city-states.

Come on guys, we need somewhere balkanised.



Sure why not, maybe with some aspect of the Slavs also moving into the western portions of Germania or something.

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Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe


The "move every ethnic group over one" idea. A Germanic France, Slavic Germany, and a Turko-Persian Poland.

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

Aeromancia
Jul 23, 2013

Arrhythmia
Jul 22, 2011

AdventFalls
Oct 17, 2012

When do we learn head explosions?


If Germania turns into Poland I will die laughing.

THE LESBIATHAN
Jan 22, 2011

The name Daria was already taken.


The best of all possible worlds.

Merdifex
May 13, 2015

by Shine
Actually, does blue already take into account what happens to East Slavs, Ofaloaf?

Fox Ironic
Jul 19, 2012

by exmarx

GSD
May 10, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
Vote changed.

GSD fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Jun 16, 2015

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice


My Great Grandfather would be proud.

Burn in hell Poppop. :patriot:

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021




What she said.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

ZearothK posted:



What she said.

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011



As a Bulgarian Nation we receive several benefits.

Raserys
Aug 22, 2011

IT'S YA BOY

Ageofbob
Sep 16, 2011

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003


yeah, why not give the good Old Bulgars their day in the sun

Lynneth
Sep 13, 2011

I prefer this guy's ideas.

CoffeeQaddaffi
Mar 20, 2009

mythomanic
Aug 19, 2009


The brightest timeline

Srebrenica Surprise
Aug 23, 2008

"L-O-V-E's just another word I never learned to pronounce."

Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.

Frionnel
May 7, 2010

Friends are what make testing worth it.

Gnooble
Sep 29, 2010

Commander, make full speed to JP1 and activate your active sensor to keep watch for any unauthorized transits.

catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?
Edit: Changed vote to Slavic Takeover.

catlord fucked around with this message at 07:09 on Jun 16, 2015

rakovsky maybe
Nov 4, 2008


Digging this lady.

Griffen
Aug 7, 2008


Maximum potential for variance would dictate have as many cultures/entities alive as possible. This option gives Greeks/ERE, slavs, and a little germans, plus all the other stuff we have previously decided.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

5 romes. We've done it you guys.

zephyr42
Apr 19, 2012

Raserys
Aug 22, 2011

IT'S YA BOY

Rodyle posted:

5 romes. We've done it you guys.

By this thread's definition you would think any country with vague ties to the Roman Empire is a Rome. France? It's a Rome. Norway? It's a Rome. Bosnia? Ugh, what's with all these Romes, Byzantophiles???

The "Romes" so far are the Caralian Empire, the Holy Roman Empire, and if it makes the vote, the Byzantine Empire. Britain is as much a continuation of the Roman Empire as we are, which is to say not :v:

Raserys fucked around with this message at 06:02 on Jun 16, 2015

Merdifex
May 13, 2015

by Shine

Raserys posted:

By this thread's definition you would think any country with vague ties to the Roman Empire is a Rome. France? It's a Rome. Norway? It's a Rome. Bosnia? Ugh, what's with all these Romes, Byzantophiles???

This dude knows what's up.

Ottomans are another, Turkish Rome!

Hey, speaking of Ottomans, Ofaloaf needs to probably remove most scripted adventurer hordes that aren't the Mongols, I think, because things have changed so much.

I think he should come up with new ones down the line. Since IMO these adventurers are cool and shake things up a bit.

Raserys
Aug 22, 2011

IT'S YA BOY
Rincewind did that in ByzLP and then there were Chinese in Spain.

Along the line it led to cool things, but at the time it was a bit surprising to say the least.

sheep-dodger
Feb 21, 2013


The Slavic Takeover
The initial Slavic migrations were welcomed by the Eastern Roman Empire, as it desperately needed recruits to try and stop the Sassanid advance on Anatolia, and in return for their service in the army, many Slavs were allowed to settle in the provinces of Thrace and Illyria. Over the decades, Slavs came to dominate the army, as more and more Eastern provinces were lost and the Greek elites were reluctant to enter military service.
It was the domination of the empire's army that would secure the Slavic domination of the empire.
After a botched coup in the early 500's the Slavic generals, nominally working in the name of the boy-emperor of the time, began rooting out the Greek elites that had plotted to overthrow him. Those nobles would be replaced by former Slavic chiefs, which was the first taste for the Eastern Romans of what was to come in the next centuries.
This process culminated in the early 700s, when a Slavic general successfully usurped the crown and styling himself Tiberius and gaining control over the entire empire.
In game terms, the ERE stretches up to the Danube and its northern half is firmly Slavic, while the Greeks have been reduced mostly to Attica. The reigning emperor is Slavic, but the cohabitation of Greeks and Slavs in the empire means that they are in the process of developing a new syncretic culture (melting pot events).

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

sheep-dodger posted:


The Slavic Takeover
The initial Slavic migrations were welcomed by the Eastern Roman Empire, as it desperately needed recruits to try and stop the Sassanid advance on Anatolia, and in return for their service in the army, many Slavs were allowed to settle in the provinces of Thrace and Illyria. Over the decades, Slavs came to dominate the army, as more and more Eastern provinces were lost and the Greek elites were reluctant to enter military service.
It was the domination of the empire's army that would secure the Slavic domination of the empire.
After a botched coup in the early 500's the Slavic generals, nominally working in the name of the boy-emperor of the time, began rooting out the Greek elites that had plotted to overthrow him. Those nobles would be replaced by former Slavic chiefs, which was the first taste for the Eastern Romans of what was to come in the next centuries.
This process culminated in the early 700s, when a Slavic general successfully usurped the crown and styling himself Tiberius and gaining control over the entire empire.
In game terms, the ERE stretches up to the Danube and its northern half is firmly Slavic, while the Greeks have been reduced mostly to Attica. The reigning emperor is Slavic, but the cohabitation of Greeks and Slavs in the empire means that they are in the process of developing a new syncretic culture (melting pot events).

Changing vote to this.

Merdifex
May 13, 2015

by Shine


Slavs, allies and vassals of the Roman Empire

The ERE needed men to fight its enemies, and Slavs (Eastern Slavs in particular) took up the call.

Once the ERE had retaken most of Anatolia, the Slavs who had fought for the Romans settled those lands, and eventually, most of Anatolia was majority culturally and linguistically Slavic, so *Russian, *Ilmenian, *Ruthenian etc. (they have different names, obviously) are all found in Anatolia.

All the Slavic Kingdoms of Anatolia are vassals of the ERE, and have more autonomy than the rest of the ERE vassals in Greece and the Balkans.

Just Like in: all the Western Slavic groups settled east of Gothia.

Vote for this if you want a Byzantium that is strong, but still at the mercy of its vassals, militarily. If the Slavs start up some factions...

Especially consider voting for this if you have already voted for and want the Eastern Slavs to be in a good position too.

dublish
Oct 31, 2011


sheep-dodger posted:


The Slavic Takeover
The initial Slavic migrations were welcomed by the Eastern Roman Empire, as it desperately needed recruits to try and stop the Sassanid advance on Anatolia, and in return for their service in the army, many Slavs were allowed to settle in the provinces of Thrace and Illyria. Over the decades, Slavs came to dominate the army, as more and more Eastern provinces were lost and the Greek elites were reluctant to enter military service.
It was the domination of the empire's army that would secure the Slavic domination of the empire.
After a botched coup in the early 500's the Slavic generals, nominally working in the name of the boy-emperor of the time, began rooting out the Greek elites that had plotted to overthrow him. Those nobles would be replaced by former Slavic chiefs, which was the first taste for the Eastern Romans of what was to come in the next centuries.
This process culminated in the early 700s, when a Slavic general successfully usurped the crown and styling himself Tiberius and gaining control over the entire empire.
In game terms, the ERE stretches up to the Danube and its northern half is firmly Slavic, while the Greeks have been reduced mostly to Attica. The reigning emperor is Slavic, but the cohabitation of Greeks and Slavs in the empire means that they are in the process of developing a new syncretic culture (melting pot events).

I like this. Slavic Byzantium sounds great.

Gygaxian
May 29, 2013


Long live Slavic Germany! What would it be called, anyway?

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


sheep-dodger posted:


The Slavic Takeover
The initial Slavic migrations were welcomed by the Eastern Roman Empire, as it desperately needed recruits to try and stop the Sassanid advance on Anatolia, and in return for their service in the army, many Slavs were allowed to settle in the provinces of Thrace and Illyria. Over the decades, Slavs came to dominate the army, as more and more Eastern provinces were lost and the Greek elites were reluctant to enter military service.
It was the domination of the empire's army that would secure the Slavic domination of the empire.
After a botched coup in the early 500's the Slavic generals, nominally working in the name of the boy-emperor of the time, began rooting out the Greek elites that had plotted to overthrow him. Those nobles would be replaced by former Slavic chiefs, which was the first taste for the Eastern Romans of what was to come in the next centuries.
This process culminated in the early 700s, when a Slavic general successfully usurped the crown and styling himself Tiberius and gaining control over the entire empire.
In game terms, the ERE stretches up to the Danube and its northern half is firmly Slavic, while the Greeks have been reduced mostly to Attica. The reigning emperor is Slavic, but the cohabitation of Greeks and Slavs in the empire means that they are in the process of developing a new syncretic culture (melting pot events).

This

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

sheep-dodger posted:


The Slavic Takeover
The initial Slavic migrations were welcomed by the Eastern Roman Empire, as it desperately needed recruits to try and stop the Sassanid advance on Anatolia, and in return for their service in the army, many Slavs were allowed to settle in the provinces of Thrace and Illyria. Over the decades, Slavs came to dominate the army, as more and more Eastern provinces were lost and the Greek elites were reluctant to enter military service.
It was the domination of the empire's army that would secure the Slavic domination of the empire.
After a botched coup in the early 500's the Slavic generals, nominally working in the name of the boy-emperor of the time, began rooting out the Greek elites that had plotted to overthrow him. Those nobles would be replaced by former Slavic chiefs, which was the first taste for the Eastern Romans of what was to come in the next centuries.
This process culminated in the early 700s, when a Slavic general successfully usurped the crown and styling himself Tiberius and gaining control over the entire empire.
In game terms, the ERE stretches up to the Danube and its northern half is firmly Slavic, while the Greeks have been reduced mostly to Attica. The reigning emperor is Slavic, but the cohabitation of Greeks and Slavs in the empire means that they are in the process of developing a new syncretic culture (melting pot events).

Changing from blue to this.

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Mr.Morgenstern
Sep 14, 2012

sheep-dodger posted:


The Slavic Takeover
The initial Slavic migrations were welcomed by the Eastern Roman Empire, as it desperately needed recruits to try and stop the Sassanid advance on Anatolia, and in return for their service in the army, many Slavs were allowed to settle in the provinces of Thrace and Illyria. Over the decades, Slavs came to dominate the army, as more and more Eastern provinces were lost and the Greek elites were reluctant to enter military service.
It was the domination of the empire's army that would secure the Slavic domination of the empire.
After a botched coup in the early 500's the Slavic generals, nominally working in the name of the boy-emperor of the time, began rooting out the Greek elites that had plotted to overthrow him. Those nobles would be replaced by former Slavic chiefs, which was the first taste for the Eastern Romans of what was to come in the next centuries.
This process culminated in the early 700s, when a Slavic general successfully usurped the crown and styling himself Tiberius and gaining control over the entire empire.
In game terms, the ERE stretches up to the Danube and its northern half is firmly Slavic, while the Greeks have been reduced mostly to Attica. The reigning emperor is Slavic, but the cohabitation of Greeks and Slavs in the empire means that they are in the process of developing a new syncretic culture (melting pot events).

Sounds interesting. Picking this.

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