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Ofaloaf posted:Are the hyperlinks inserted in the middle of the text distracting at all? I sperged out a bit about placenames, so I've been worried about people not recognizing toponyms and getting confused about where things are happening. No, they're great, please keep doing this!
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Drone posted:No, they're great, please keep doing this! Agreed, I have no idea what a Tolosa or a Lugdunum is.
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Aug 11, 2015 07:04
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Hyperlinked location names are super neat. I really dig the Arian faith mechanics with the race to recapture Rome eventually. I am curious about what exactly will happen as MA decreases though. What kind of heresies are included for Arianism?
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I notice a distinct lack of GyroSlavic heraldry around here 
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mythomanic posted:What kind of heresies are included for Arianism? Orthodoxy and Catholicism.
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The King and his wife are still young - hell, they've only had one kid so far - so succession is not an issue yet except in the case of accident. Long live princess Glorja!Ofaloaf posted:Are the hyperlinks inserted in the middle of the text distracting at all? I sperged out a bit about placenames, so I've been worried about people not recognizing toponyms and getting confused about where things are happening. You probably don't need to put them there for places like Toulouse/Tolosa, but for names which are wildly different they are Good and Cool.
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Ofaloaf posted:Following that move, Thiudareiks declared a new sigil for the House of Triarius, replacing the family's old three YF-23 posted:You probably don't need to put them there for places like Toulouse/Tolosa, but for names which are wildly different they are Good and Cool. Smoky Bandana posted:Agreed, I have no idea what a Tolosa or a Lugdunum is. 
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YF-23 posted:The King and his wife are still young - hell, they've only had one kid so far - so succession is not an issue yet except in the case of accident. Long live princess Glorja! Agnatic-only succession.  King Thiudareiks needs a son (or brother... do we actually have any more male members of the dynasty?)
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Aug 11, 2015 11:06
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He needs to plant seeds in more than a single field. Better a legitimized bastard than no son at all.
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Drone posted:Agnatic-only succession. My point is until the King sires a half dozen daughters without a son there's no real reason to worry.
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The seduction focus can reliably get rid of any succession problems (except for gavelkind obviously). It is a bit strange that Jerusalem isn't one of Arianism's holy sites.
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There is one simple cure to the matter of succession: get the Orthodox poison womb to convert to Arianism. This is a sign from heaven.
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Aug 11, 2015 12:38
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Shameful lack of Rome players in this thread.
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Shameful lack of Rome players in this thread. Or a shameful lack of Asterix readers.
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Aug 11, 2015 13:33
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If there's a Rome 2 they should get Uderzo to do the character portraits
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Please be more mindful in the future.
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Ofaloaf posted:But that's Frankish!
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Aug 11, 2015 14:31
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How did you get sineigskalks or Maximiien?
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Merdifex posted:How did you get sineigskalks or Maximiien? "Maximiien" is taken straight from the 9th-century Old French Canticle of Saint Eulalia, because even though there's no Franks in Gaul, I still used a few patterns from Old French in making the Gallic names, since I figured no one would ever catch on to that unless I flat out admitted it like I'm doing right now. "Eufemïen" is attested from an 11th-century French work, so I figured a good quick-and-dirty rule would be to take Latin names ending in -ianus, like Maximianus, Euphemianus, Aurelianus, etc., and swap that poo poo out for either -iien or -ïen. 'Carles' and 'Theophiles' are attested from the 12th century, and those two names in proper Latin are 'Carolus' and 'Theophilus', respectively, so it seemed that swapping the Latin -us ending for -es would also be a suitable quick-and-dirty way of making Gallic names distinct from proper Latin.
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Ofaloaf posted:"Maximiien" is taken straight from the 9th-century Old French Canticle of Saint Eulalia, because even though there's no Franks in Gaul, I still used a few patterns from Old French in making the Gallic names, since I figured no one would ever catch on to that unless I flat out admitted it like I'm doing right now. Got ya mate. We caught ya in the act. You fell into the trap. Signed confession. Now go straight to fake linguistics jail.
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poo poo, I've been bamboozled. I should've known that attempting to venture outside basic vulgar latin characteristics and apply shifts present in Old French outside of Frankish circles was in clear violation of linguistics, phonology and all things sensible. I should've known. 
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Aug 11, 2015 22:20
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I've heard enough. Hand him over to the Esperantos.
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Aug 11, 2015 22:22
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Wow, unexpected ending to the LP. Still, justice has to be done. rip in peace
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That's why most of the placenames are just reverted to Latin in the scenario atm. Trying to come up with well-done Germanic Gothic forms of all these little holdings in Gaul was a lot harder than just discovering that drat well nearly every French wikipedia article about a place in France has a section labelled "Toponymie" which rattles off a bunch of attested historical forms of a town's name, usually dating back to Roman times, and it was much easier to just pick out the forms dating to the later Imperial period or the Merovingians' time.
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Aug 11, 2015 23:06
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Rated one, cancelled pre-order.
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The level of betrayal I felt when Ofaloaf revealed his behind-the-scenes fake linguistics tore something from me that I'll never be able to recover. He tore away my ability to respect anything, and he tore away my ability to feel human.
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Ofaloaf posted:That's why most of the placenames are just reverted to Latin in the scenario atm. I'm sure you could just outsource these to certain LP readers of sufficient sperg-level.
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Lets Wear Black: A Graduate Linguistics Project
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Chapter 18: Too much of a good thing King Thiudareiks II, despite many attempts, had not yet managed to sire an heir after six years of rule and five years of (otherwise happy) marriage. Frustration was beginning to grow at court, and the king needed to find a way to divert some of the pressures gradually pressing down on him from discontented vassals and the looming threat of the Amaling claimant to the throne off in Belgica.  And in 775 he found exactly that. A rebellion in Normandy had sapped the Norse realm's manpower, prompting the Duke of Andecavia, a Gothic vassal, to proclaim a holy war against those pagan lands. Not wanting his vassals to grow more powerful at his expense, and not wanting to seem lacking in piety, King Thiudareiks shortly followed the duke in proclaiming a kingdom-wide war against pagan Normandy.  A war! Excitement wasn't just limited to the court- not long after the conflict began, Queen Sofia was pregnant once more.  With the Gothic invasion of their lands, the Norse had hastily sued for peace with the rebels in northern Normandy, ceding Aquilonia to Gallic rebels. The Norse army had nonetheless been soundly thrashed by the Gauls, leaving them with little ability to resist the Gothic onslaught. Venetis was the first to fall, seized by Gothic troops on New Year's Eve of 775, while the Norman's last stronghold, Pontevetus, fell just three months later.     Alsting had seemed like a serious threat to the realm, but when cracks appeared in his domain, his personal authority had not been enough to prevent the collapse of his regime. Compounding the Goths' royal victory, meanwhile, was one dynastic victory.   Thiudareiks finally had sired an heir. Although originally the name 'Paitrus'- Peter- was first suggested for the boy, the king declared it his royal and dynastic perogative to name him Thiudareiks, after himself. Peace and contentment at last reigned in Gothia, but trouble brewed elsewhere.   The Zoroastrians, long resigned to merely holding sway in Persia's sphere after suffering significant loses to the Arab conquests of the 7th century, had at last resolved to reassert themselves and their primacy, not just within Persia but in other lands as well. Their first target was Syria, the Caliphate's northernmost region. While Christians generally did not object to seeing heathens fight heathens, the prospect of a revitalized Sassanid Persia was a disconcerting one. King Thiudareiks had other things on his mind, anyways.  Aside from his ongoing struggle to ensure his dynasty's longevity, of course. Thiudareiks' spies had reparted that te Amaling pretender to the crown of Gothia, still on the throne in Belgica, still likely had a larger army at his call than King Thiudareiks did.   It wasn't a large margin of difference, allegedly, but it was still an uncomfortable fact for a king who had been spending most of most his time trying to simply secure the allegience of his realm and the future of his family. If there was a war between Belgica and Gothia, it would be a close-run thing. The solution to these war concerns was, of course, a war.      Gothic troops handily defeated the Segusians, and with little further armed resistance, Duke Marco surrendered the contested province to the Kingdom of Gothia. In celebration, Thiudareiks had his second daughter, born just as Segusio was defeated, christened 'Biktorja'- Victoria.    This was not the only victory that occured then- to the east, the Zoroastrian's war against the Umayyad Caliphate came to a surprising end. The Arabs surrendered, ceding Syria not to the Sassanids directly, but to the Immortals, the holy warriors of the Zoroastrian faith.  Closer to home, King Thiudareiks' concerns about strengthening the realm's armies against both internal and external threats appeared well-founded, as Gallic peasants in the Pagus Vinocinensis erupted in rebellion, claiming that Thiudareiks was not their true liege.  To a certain extent, this was actually true. While Thiudareiks was legitimately crowned the King of Gothia, the province of Vindocinensis belonged to the de jure kingdom of Armorica, which was still considered a separate realm from Gothia proper. The peasant's revolt was easily put down, but the idea of claiming the crown of Armorica now lurked in Thiudareiks' mind as a possible way to prevent further instability in the north.  After some considerable planning, Thiudareiks went forward with the plan, and in 782 traveled north to Namnetia to be hailed King of Armorica by an assembly of local notables.  King Thiudareiks celebrated mightily, and shortly after the crowning he was pleased to find out his wife was pregnant once more.  And, in the spring of 783, she gave birth...  ...to a health boy named Reikahardus. In joyous triumph, the king at last called all lords of Gothia and Armorica together for a grand tournament, to commemorate the Triarius dynasty and the unity of the realm.  And while the realm celebrated, a quiet question lurked in the back of every courtier's mind...  How long would Gothia stay united?
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Once again our fool king shows his true colors. Now, I'll be honest. My family has held lands in Divio for generations. I have hardly ever travelled into this new "kingdom" of Armorica, besides the occasional trip up to Aurelianum. But it seems to me that the kingdom of Gothia, the kingdom of the Goths, should be enough for any king. Perhaps this king who lays with heretics doesn't understand this. It shouldn't be that surprising... it wasn't House Triarius that forged the Kingdom of the Goths.
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Huh, I wonder how the Immortals got that title, and not the king of Persia. Like I didn't even know Holy Orders could win crusades.
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Thanatz posted:Huh, I wonder how the Immortals got that title, and not the king of Persia. If no one has claims on the title, it goes to the person who captured the most. In this case, the Immortals were the ones who wrecked Syria.
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Thanatz posted:Like I didn't even know Holy Orders could win crusades.
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A zoroastrian crusader state is wonderful. fake edit: yeah for the last half-dozen patches or more (?), the various Catholic holy orders are by far the most common winners of crusades. I don't think I've ever seen a non-Catholic holy order get it, but it doesn't surprise me.
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GSD posted:A zoroastrian crusader state is wonderful. That would explain why I had never seen it. I haven't had a computer that could play CK2 since before Rajas of India came out.
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An independent Immortal state, the horrors of Gavelkind pending, this world gets better and better...
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GSD posted:A zoroastrian crusader state is wonderful. I've seen the AI reform the Slavic faith and the Tengri faith before. The last one led to the High Church, of all things, getting Ruthenia after a Great Holy War. I've also seen the Warriors of Perun take Bulgaria. It happens.
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