sheep-dodger posted:

The Slavic Takeover
The initial Slavic migrations were welcomed by the Eastern Roman Empire, as it desperately needed recruits to try and stop the Sassanid advance on Anatolia, and in return for their service in the army, many Slavs were allowed to settle in the provinces of Thrace and Illyria. Over the decades, Slavs came to dominate the army, as more and more Eastern provinces were lost and the Greek elites were reluctant to enter military service.
It was the domination of the empire's army that would secure the Slavic domination of the empire.
After a botched coup in the early 500's the Slavic generals, nominally working in the name of the boy-emperor of the time, began rooting out the Greek elites that had plotted to overthrow him. Those nobles would be replaced by former Slavic chiefs, which was the first taste for the Eastern Romans of what was to come in the next centuries.
This process culminated in the early 700s, when a Slavic general successfully usurped the crown and styling himself Tiberius and gaining control over the entire empire.
In game terms, the ERE stretches up to the Danube and its northern half is firmly Slavic, while the Greeks have been reduced mostly to Attica. The reigning emperor is Slavic, but the cohabitation of Greeks and Slavs in the empire means that they are in the process of developing a new syncretic culture (melting pot events).

Ofaloaf posted:

Funky Valentine posted:

They were a tribe hanging out in Illyria, a subgroup of Pannonians from what Wiki tells me.

Merdifex posted:

They're one of the oldest Slavic groups to reach Central Europe. Their arrival there may predate the break-up of the Slavic language, even. I'm surprised that they survive as they were, but by now their language is probably closer to West Slavic languages.

Raserys posted:

Important question, will all 72 provinces of the Gamarantes be represented Accurately in game?

Lord Cyrahzax posted:

Gothia embraces heresy, and Belgica is all but destroyed! We are reduced to an Imperial lapdog, a slave of the accursed House of Lepidoso! I would drat you King Gabriel, if you had not already done it yourself! May your reign be short, may your sons die in the crib, and may your deeds be erased from history!

Ofaloaf posted:

Death engulfs us all, someday. But no, I'm okay. As Mr. Morgenstern has said, work's gotten me a bit busy. Middle schoolers, you know.

I'll get something nice and good written up by the end of this week though, so help me God.

Funky Valentine posted:

Why do the Umayyads have a Germanic eagle in their CoA?

Raserys posted:

I didn't read that after CK2 ended, what happened?

Fox Ironic posted:

Once we inherit the WRE we should move the capital to Carthage and convert to Zoroastrianism.

Randarkman posted:

We should make a betting pool on Seljuk's religion.

I'm holding out on some form of Judaism.

Ikasuhito posted:

Bout had a heart attack when I scrolled pass this

Edit. Update on previous page.

Ofaloaf posted:

also, I couldn't figure out a good way to mention it, but the Jomsvikings have been lurking around on the Baltic coast forever, and during this last chapter I noticed that their shield on the map looked a little different...



They're still a Norse holy order though.

Raserys posted:

[...]but the cultural melting pot for Jerusalem doesn't fire for the Byzantine culture group, so throw them to the Turks I say.

Randarkman posted:

e: Will ears and/or the phrase 'et audit' find its way into the flag of Romania? That would be pretty unique

Gyra_Solune posted:

And here I was about to suggest making the HRE equivalent as The United Kingdom of the British Isles, which, at the time being, is neither united, a kingdom, nor British. I forget was there ever /really/ a major potentially unifying power in the area? Heck did anything notable happen there ever? It's been a mess of tiny countries as long as I can remember

Gyra_Solune posted:

also is that the same country that seems to own like, vienna, warsaw, and the place north of crimea? who the heck are those jerks, the dark purple ones

StrifeHira posted:

I don't quite see Japan going full Muslim (though that is quite a twist), but it might be neat if it ends up taking aspects of the faith with other things and ends up developing something completely new.

Ofaloaf posted:

This cultural situation could be translated into EU4 in a couple of different ways, the way I see it. Now mind you, I'm not asking for a Goon Vote right now, I'm just trying to lay out the options I've mulled over, and I'd really like to hear other takes on it if you got one you'd like to share:
Keep Everything Exactly As It Is, More Or Less

Keep the cultures more or less exactly as they are, but chop them up into smaller regional bits. Either Brithenig and Briton can share the same culture group, or they can be split into Celtic for Briton and a new Brithenig group for the Brithenig cultures, so that the setup ends up being something like

• Brythonic Culture Group (maybe)
  
• Welsh (for Wales. Could be in Celtic culture group)
  
• Hibernaidd (for Ireland. Could be in Celtic group)
  
• Some sort of Scottish Welsh culture for the Welsh in Scotland (Could be in the Celtic broup)
  
• Cumbric (for Brithenig Cumbria. Could be in a general 'Brithenig' culture group)
  
• Loegric (for Brithenig Loegria. Could be in a general 'Brithenig' group)
  
• Some sort of Scottish Brithenig for the Brithenig in Scotland (Could be in the Celtic group)

Fox Ironic posted:

What happens if GTL's more advanced West Africans colonize the West Indies? Will we get a reverse triangle where Native populations are shipped back to Europe/Africa?

This certainly won't replace the American slave trade. Oh god.

Was Option B a vote for MORE slavery? What have I done?

Ofaloaf posted:

More than one.