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 "Egyptian cotton, motherfucker" One of my favourite movie villains is Peoples Hernandez from 2000's Shaft, starring Samuel L. Jackson. He's a very complex character who likes fine clothing, his little brother and ice picks. He also does some plot exposition while taking a dump and pauses briefly while speaking to squeeze a turd out of his butt, masterfully performed by noted character actor Jeffrey Wright. The "Peoples" part of his name is just a nickname "because he always looks after his peoples", but I can't find his full name anywhere. Has anyone read the Shaft (2000) movie novelization who could shed some light on this subject? Anyway, who are your favorite movie villains?
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Max Cady: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POR5t4hjtPg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vO-XDUiRqU Dr. Hannibal Lecter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5dA92wqmME https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZAkOfxlW6g 1991 was a good year for villains.
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Apr 28, 2015 23:20
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A German master criminal, he comes up with what would have been probably a perfect crime. He and his men pose as terrorists, taking a few dozen employees of the Nakatomi Corporation hostage, but his real scheme is to steal $640 million in bearer bonds in the vault. His heavily armed men are mostly there for crowd control and to deal with LAPD and the FBI when they arrive. By the time his scheme would have been complete, all of the hostages would have been killed when the roof blew up, and the thieves would have escaped in the carnage by posing as EMT crews. And by the time the authorities had figured out what had really happened, he and his crew would be on a beach, earning 20%. Problem that he had was that there was one cop in the wrong place at the wrong time. Don't know who I'm talking about? Does the name Hans Gruber mean anything to you?  Name might ring a bell.
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Apr 29, 2015 00:42
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Apr 29, 2015 02:10
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I was going to say Hans Gruber, but instead I will go with another classic. Nurse Ratchet. Totally and utterly terrifying. She runs the asylum with an iron fist, and when a single ray of joy/life manages to smuggle his way in, (McMurphy), after breaking him she lobotomizes him. Thus ensuring order is restored to her kingdom, and all future threats have been warned. Oh, she also goads a poor innocent boy into suicide, for no other reason than he found a seconds worth of happiness outside the walls of the institution. Not only is she an awesome Villain, but she wins in the end. (The Chief running off at the end may be a victory for him, but in terms of Nurse Ratchets world it means gently caress all)
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Apr 29, 2015 02:56
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No contest. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27i9LoNJshA
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Apr 29, 2015 03:07
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdhxL9r9hkg
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Apr 29, 2015 05:13
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 You're a monster, Zorg.
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Apr 29, 2015 05:15
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVzAMmpMra8
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Apr 29, 2015 09:45
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Here's Willem Dafoe playing Max Shreck, playing Count Orlock, in a vampire movie that astoundingly a) is not poo poo, and b) also stars Eddie Izzard. Even John Malkovich at his most deranged couldn't steal this movie from Dafoe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgqgSaDCgC4
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Apr 29, 2015 11:23
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BrigadierSensible posted:I was going to say Hans Gruber, but instead I will go with another classic.  Nurse ratched is the absolute best example of the banality of evil that I can think of. She's not outright sadistic for sadism's sake, but god help you if you disturb the orderly world she forces on the patients.
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Apr 29, 2015 13:34
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I'm going to be a hypergoon: Everything about him from his appearance to James Earl Jones's amazing performance was the most ominous, foreboding thing I had ever seen as a 4-year-old watching the movies for the first time. Almost 20 years later I still remember my  reaction when casually lifts that Rebel into the air by the throat.In more grounded terms, No Country for Old Men is my favorite film and I've seen it at least half a dozen times and Anton Chigurh still gives me the chills every time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKJiwcGvaqI&t=44s The gas station coin toss scene is one of the creepiest, most nail-biting scenes I've ever watched but I don't want to link it because it's something that really needs to be seen in the context of the movie for the first time.
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Apr 29, 2015 15:17
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Apr 29, 2015 17:52
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I love Kevin Spacey in most things but he was so good (and creepy) in Seven. Also Cillian Murphy was great in Redeye, even though the movie as a whole wasn't that good.
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Apr 29, 2015 18:04
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Demolition Man was a pretty good movie, but Wesley Snipes kinda stole it.
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Apr 29, 2015 18:13
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These are some good movie villains, guys. Gary Oldman is currently way the in lead for villainy with an astounding 100% more posts about villains he's played compared to the other candidates. One of my other favourite villains is:  Sheriff Will Teasle, played by Brian Dennehy, from First Blood, the first Rambo film. A real small minded prick who takes an immediate dis-liking to Rambo because of his long hair and muscles. Needless to say, he pushes Rambo to far and Rambo proceeds to give him a war he doesn't believe.  gently caress you, Sheriff. Spoiler for the book: although the Sheriff survives in the film, in the book the movie is based on both Rambo and Teasle kill each other in the end.
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Apr 29, 2015 18:14
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Ma Ma from Dredd. She's just so...gross.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzdxtqbMbsQ
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Apr 29, 2015 18:28
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Most of these will be Gary Oldman (there's already 2), but my absolute "favourite" villain is colonel Tavington in "The Patriot". Jason Isaacs plays an amazing murderous and psychopath british villain and I would not be surprised if his performance here was what got him the role as Lucius Malfoy in Harry Potter (they're practically the same character).
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Apr 29, 2015 18:38
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Apr 29, 2015 18:43
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Apr 29, 2015 18:54
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canepazzo posted:Most of these will be Gary Oldman (there's already 2), but my absolute "favourite" villain is colonel Tavington in "The Patriot". Jason Isaacs plays an amazing murderous and psychopath british villain and I would not be surprised if his performance here was what got him the role as Lucius Malfoy in Harry Potter (they're practically the same character). Ohhhhh poo poo, how did I forget about him? That church scene is one of the best bits of cinematic villainy I've ever seen. "You said we'd be forgiven!" "And indeed you may! But that is between yourselves and God."
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Apr 29, 2015 19:03
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BkIngb0dwM Indio from For a Few Dollars More has always fascinated me. He's just some crazy-rear end cackling sadistic rapist-murderer on paper, but he never seems to be enjoying himself. He gets all misty-eyed and obsessive about a woman he raped and drove to suicide one time, and carries her pocket watch everywhere, but you never get told how or why this is affects him so much. It's amazing how tortured and disturbed he comes across when he has no backstory and 99% of his screentime is manic, unrepentant dickery.
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Apr 29, 2015 19:31
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--2Eh4Jdo04
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More villainy. Sometimes you just want towering, unapologetic villainy that owns the screen and kerb-stomps the whole 'banality' deal. Klaus Kinski in 'Aguirre, the Wrath of God' (protip: do not mess with a guy called 'The Wrath of God'): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKPJBd7gniw Douglas Silva as 'Lil' Dice'/Leandro Firmino da Hora as 'Lil' Ze' in 'City of God' (since Firmino gets the tougher job of portraying adult Lil' Ze, here he is in action): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bacK-9u-kpA Michael Douglas in 'Wall Street' (his 'Greed is Good' speech is so malignantly persuasive in its entirety that you can't see the real thing too many times): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF_iorX_MAw Bob Hoskins in 'The Long Good Friday' (The best Brit gangster. Frostbite...or verbals?): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jdUzxLy9kg Michael Gambon in 'The Cook, the Thief, his Wife, and her Lover': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToT0yAM2WU4 (this is terrible quality, and this violent arthouse film is not to everyone's taste, but just watch Michael Gambon and Helen Mirren turn low comedy into grim domestic violence, in one tracking shot. Gambon's Albert Spica is a truly horrible man.) Tim Roth and John Hurt in 'Rob Roy', snorting antique English villainy like the purest cocaine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7lhMAOxLxw And sometimes you want something subtler, like 'Jean de Florette' and 'Manon des Sources', for the double act of Yves Montand as “Papet” César Soubeyran, in two of the last films of his long career, and Daniel Auteil as his dim-witted, grasping nephew Ugolin. No single clip can convey the effort these two actors put into their roles; you need to watch the films, which follow on one from the other. Even though I love to observe – from a safe distance – a cool psycho like Tom Ripley, or a blazing megalomaniac like Aguirre, I think I'll have to vote for Montand's as the best villainous performance I know. He's stunning, credible, despicable, and pathetic, and still never finally defeated within his own sad and narrow definition of victory.
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Olewithmilk posted:Sheriff Will Teasle, played by Brian Dennehy, from First Blood, the first Rambo film. A real small minded prick who takes an immediate dis-liking to Rambo because of his long hair and muscles. Needless to say, he pushes Rambo to far and Rambo proceeds to give him a war he doesn't believe. What's disappointing is there is more explanation in the book as to why Teasle does what he does to Rambo, and in the movie they condense Teasle's backstory to a 2 second shot of him in his office, sitting in front of his Purple Heart, Distinguished Service Cross, and Silver Star from Korea. So in essence the department of defense is the villain.
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Disney villain time! Judge Claude Frollo from the Hunchback of Notre Dame  Most Disney villains are aware of their wickedness and fully embrace being just completely evil. Frollo is the scariest because he truly believes that he is righteous. He starts off the movie by murdering Quasimodo's mother, he runs a hosed up torture dungeon, he wants nothing more than the complete genocide of all gypsies in France, so much so that he's fine killing plenty of innocent people to do it, all while brainwashing and treating Quasimodo like crap. But he truly believes that he is the good guy and that God is on his side. He even gets a crazy song about how much he much he wants to gently caress Esmeralda and how if she refuses, he'll kill her. Tony Jay does an amazing job doing the voice, which really drives home how terrifying he is.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZO_GWNryJw
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I don't know if it counts as a movie villain because it's not a type of movie that would have a villain traditionally, but I'm posting anyway because the movie was awesome and the bad guy was awesome: Jopling Willem Dafoe in The Grand Budapest Hotel 
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Carnival of Shrews posted:Klaus Kinski in 'Aguirre, the Wrath of God' (protip: do not mess with a guy called 'The Wrath of God'): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPKODzv1PD4 It turns out he kind of wasn't acting.
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spite house posted:Kinski also managed to be the villain of a documentary about the making of this film among others -- Herzog's "My Best Fiend". Kinski was incredible in his five Herzog's films. No two of his roles were the same. While he is a genuine madman, he was still acting his rear end off.
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God Of Paradise posted:While he is a genuine madman, he was still acting his rear end off. Nothing like a real crazy to play as a crazy man. Since Gary Oldman and Alan Rickman are already posted several times; col Hans Landa 
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Fish Of Doom posted:Disney villain time! Frollo is handsdown the best Disney villain. "It's not my fault, I'm not to blame. It is the gypsy girl!" And of course he blames Esmerelda for him wanting her because she is a devil and those are much stronger than even a pious man. Oh, and can't forget how he barricades a miller's family in their home to burn alive. My favorite Disney one outside of Frollo would be Wreck-It Ralph, even if he's not precisely a villain: he's the Bad Guy, but really all the fuckers in his game who treat him like poo poo are far more evil. So let's go with King Candy, a jealous insane sprite who technically might have caused a massacre in another racing game, who reprogrammed Sugar Rush, who has a goddamn dungeon with clowns in it. The Cy-Bugs are mindless animals, but King Candy can wreck your entire game and has no issues about doing it.
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Judge Doom. This character was seriously insanely terrifying on so many levels.  Spoilered for those that may have not seen the movie because it's actually kind of a huge reveal that makes the movie Who Framed Roger Rabbit so good. He's basically the judge of Toon Town and considers toons unruly as hell. The issue is you can't really punish toons because they're, well, cartoons; you can't hurt, maim, or kill them. Well the set out to find a way. Then he found one and callously demonstrated it on a squeaky little shoe creature by just grabbing it and stuffing it in the dip. Toons for the most part are pretty harmless. They just kind of make cartoons and that's that. Well it turns out that Judge Doom was a cartoon in disguise and was perfectly happy to murder the gently caress out of and corrupt his own kind. He has that comparison to Frollo; he thinks he's the good guy. Unfortunately he wants to completely eliminate Toon Town and all the toons to build a road over it so he can profit off of it and retire from being a judge. Which he became because he rigged the election. ToxicSlurpee has a new favorite as of 11:56 on Apr 30, 2015 |
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After giving it a lot of thought, I'll have to go with Harry Lime in The Third Man. He only appears in a few scenes, but his shadows looms over the entire movie and when he finally makes an appearance, he's so charming and affable that it's quite easy to forget what a monster he is. He may not commit mass-murder or anything, but this character is still one of the best examples of pure, selfish evil I've seen in a movie. By the way, I know that the reveal that this character is a villain is one of the most famous in movie-history, but I decided to put his name in spoilers anyway, just to be on the safe side.
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Cowslips Warren posted:My favorite Disney one outside of Frollo would be Wreck-It Ralph, even if he's not precisely a villain: he's the Bad Guy, but really all the fuckers in his game who treat him like poo poo are far more evil. Look, just because Ralph is Bad Guy doesn't mean he is bad guy. It's pretty striking how the Nicelanders are just a pack of assholes, especially Gene. Even nicey-nice Fixit Felix is a dick to Ralph until everyone realizes that they need him or they'll get unplugged.
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Faude Carfilhiot posted:After giving it a lot of thought, I'll have to go with Harry Lime in The Third Man. He only appears in a few scenes, but his shadows looms over the entire movie and when he finally makes an appearance, he's so charming and affable that it's quite easy to forget what a monster he is. He may not commit mass-murder or anything, but this character is still one of the best examples of pure, selfish evil I've seen in a movie. The ferris wheel monologue is one of my favorite scenes ever. He's such a prick.
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WeaponGradeSadness posted:I'm going to be a hypergoon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgN1sLcAQnw
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What I love about this is that the movie was a minimum effort, cyncial cash-in. All the 'actors' phoned it in because they knew it was garbage, destined to be forgotten and discarded in dollar shops. their agents told them to grab the paycheck and run. Hardly worth even putting on your good acting pants. Except no-one told Raul Julia. HighClassSwankyTime posted:
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Apr 30, 2015 16:13
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Young people today in Harry Brown.
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It's not a movie, but Moriarty, played by Andrew Scott from the series Sherlock. (The Benedict Cumberbatch one) He plays the character well, and he's got this intense "so crazy I'm sane" kind of deal going on. He steals every scene he's in, it's great.
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