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metavisual posted:
I've never really heard anything positive said about Exorcist II, but I've watched it twice over the last few years and I really enjoyed it both times. It has some really interesting ideas in it, and while its not exactly scary, there is a foreboding atmosphere that I like. I think Exorcist II and III both have important places in the series; they both serve as direct sequels to the original, but in different ways. The Heretic is about picking up where Merrin left off, tracking Pazuzu and learning more about how and why it possesses people. Exorcist III is Karras' story, it takes us through what happened to his friends after his death and allows the character to come full circle from the first film. I'm glad I own them all, and I don't like to skip any of them come October.
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# ¿ May 4, 2015 19:22 |
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InfiniteZero posted:I found this reaction amusing because while some of the kids doing that were trying to be hip, I believe that many or most of them were actually laughing in a defensive/nervous way in an attempt to disarm the experience for which many people of that age had no context for or previous experience of. Everyone had that friend that couldn't keep their mouth shut during horror movies, and yea its almost always because they didn't feel comfortable actually absorbing the movie and potentially getting scared. To get freaked out or scared would of course be the ultimate disgrace, you'd pretty much have to move away at that point.
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# ¿ May 8, 2015 17:03 |
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Yes, I've seen it twice. I know what happens. I was talking about impressions, not the literal course of the plot. I actually don't think whatever physical threat(and yea obviously you find out that it is very much a threat) the demon poses to Karras and Merrin is really supposed to be a point of emphasis in those later scenes. Its about the demon transforming Regan to where you start to really fear for her life and assume the worst. It just doesn't seem like there's any going back for Regan, by the end Pazuzu has completely degraded her whole body and mind. That's whats always been scary about it for me. The threat to Karras is that he will lose his soul, which in the end he doesn't only because he chooses to die instead. But we don't know he will have to make that choice until there very last scene. Basebf555 fucked around with this message at 20:27 on May 8, 2015 |
# ¿ May 8, 2015 20:22 |
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metavisual posted:As far as I'm concerned only the first one exists The first one isn't even all that great. Its decent I guess...
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# ¿ May 14, 2015 14:25 |
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There are a few scenes in The Omen that are just as memorable as any in The Exorcist(the plate glass, and the beginning when the nanny hangs herself being the most obvious). But the Exorcist is consistently better in almost every way. More interesting memorable characters, better atmosphere, the cinematography is more interesting, it has Max Von Sydow, better soundtrack, and on and on.
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# ¿ May 15, 2015 17:24 |
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Neo Rasa posted:The editing of the dog attack scene in The Omen is extremely effective. Compare to the CGI hyena attack in Exorcist: The Beginning. That was Blade II splotlight caliber. Dominion vs. The Beginning could would probably make a good thread of its own. Its such a unique circumstance, the fact that I can buy a blu ray set that features both versions, and watch them back to back and compare. When you watch Exorcist: The Beginning directly after Dominion, the specific changes that were made are just baffling. There isn't one single change that improved the movie, and most made it worse. Dominion was a decent, in my opinion worthy entry in the series, I don't understand why they thought they needed to start over.
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# ¿ May 15, 2015 19:02 |
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Lurdiak posted:I don't think it's on the same level as the original but I really the The Exorcist III. I like that they only tie it in with the original near the end, I like how the movie has all these surreal creepy shots. Too bad it's lost amidst the sea of bad ripoffs and sequels to The Exorcist. When I line up movies to watch during Halloween time Exorcist III is just as important to me as the original. I must watch it every year. I find it to be not as scary as The Exorcist but just as entertaining.
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# ¿ May 15, 2015 21:13 |
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david_a posted:"Almost watchable" is a pretty fair description, honestly. That really is a perfect way to describe Children of the Corn. You read a little about it and it sounds really interesting and creepy, then you sit down to watch and it turns out it does actually have a decent foreboding atmosphere. Then you keep watching it a while longer and the various character backstories are filled in, and its like "huh, this is pretty weird, kinda creepy. Hopefully something will happen soon though!". Then about three quarters of the way through you've fallen asleep but when you wake up you kinda want to give it another shot because it seems like there's a good movie in there. Repeat two or three more times until you give up.
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# ¿ May 18, 2015 17:04 |
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:The story it's based on also isn't very good. Like a lot of King stories when you boil it down to a one or two sentence summary it sounds like a great premise. I'm a huge King fan but he's not always able to follow through on the (usually amazing) ideas he comes up with.
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# ¿ May 18, 2015 17:33 |
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lizardman posted:I think people might want to throw things at me because I'm speaking more as "dumb mainstream moviegoer" rather than putting on my "film buff" hat, but it kind of baffles me how difficult it seems for Warner Bros. or whoever has the rights these days to produce a straightforward follow-up to The Exorcist. The problem is that movie has been done countless times by people trying to reproduce the success of The Exorcist, to the point that even if a new Exorcist entry tried to do it audiences would criticize it for being a retread. Its not like there have been no straightforward movies featuring exorcisms since the originals release 30 years ago, there have been too many to count. The time to do it was when they made The Heretic, but for whatever reason they decided to get creative.
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# ¿ May 18, 2015 20:46 |
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lizardman posted:^^ That's a good point, but people would be willing to give a slight pass to an Exorcist movie following faithfully in its predecessor's footsteps, at least more than a random ripoff would. I think the way to go would be to cast a real heavyweight actor in the role of the investigating priest. You'd need someone who's casting says "this is a serious movie, not some cheap bullshit." I would have said Phillip Seymour Hoffman but
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# ¿ May 18, 2015 20:55 |
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Neo Rasa posted:You mean someone like Richard Burton, George C. Scott, or Stellen Skarsgård? Well yea, that's exactly the point I was making. Especially Scott and Skarsgard, they absolutely carry their respective films. The original is more of a team effort because Von Sydow doesn't have very much screentime. I suspect the casting of Burton and Scott were major factors in getting The Heretic and Exorcist III greenlit.
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# ¿ May 18, 2015 21:08 |
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Neo Rasa posted:I want a gif of the like two flashback shot where James Earl Jones in a leopard skin struts up to a possessed woman and screams does like a Skyrim dragon shout to de-possess her. I really like the fact that the series has maintained a pretty consistent connection between Pazuzu and Africa, the story being that the first humans lived there and therefore were the first to encounter him. There's an Africa connection in three out of the four films.
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# ¿ May 20, 2015 21:10 |
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lizardman posted:Hell, I'd go so far to say Renny Harlin's flick is the only one that's unapologetically a horror movie in general. All three of the others seem hung up on being a classy psychological thriller too good to get their hands dirty, or worse, a bunch of directors just kind of playing around with the IP and indulging themselves. I absolutely hate The Beginning, but beyond that, the original itself isn't purely a horror film. Its a mix of psychological thriller and horror. Unfortunately the balance between the more low-key psychological stuff and the projectile vomit stuff is very difficult to get right, and The Exorcist is maybe the most perfect example of that balance ever made. So the sequels and knockoffs have tried to achieve that, and they usually fail, usually ending up too far on either end of the spectrum. Dominion and The Beginning are perfect examples of two different directors going for that balance and failing in opposite ways. Basebf555 fucked around with this message at 21:17 on May 21, 2015 |
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