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Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

lmfao i just noticed the quote from virtuosity at the end

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Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

Agag posted:

What's the joke from the anti-gay speech? Its that he's saying anti-gay stuff to people who presumably don't have anti-gay opinions.

the joke is that he's saying a list of facts out of context that are poorly sourced and easily debated and/or debunked, and the entire room he's speaking to is incapable of refuting any of it and just gets furious and hostile in response. they just hear words and believe them, and the experience of cognitive dissonance causes discomfort. they are only in that room because they want to belong to a club, because they feel safe, because they don't actually need to know anything to be reinforced in their beliefs.

they should be, like anyone, fully capable of defending what they believe, shutting sam down, and having their own facts, or of realizing that correlation between statistics does not imply a causal link. instead of that, they become violent and unruly

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

ashgromnies posted:

you realize that sam hyde writes lots of really long and serious youtube comments about libertarianism and why it pwns, right? maybe you'd learn something if you read them...

get this: they're not serious.

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe
you guys mad?

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:

I think it's funny when people avoid getting into debates with weird creeps, too.

yeah its crazy that the people running the event and sitting in the audience have all the power in the situation but instead of getting security to remove him or try to engage him in conversation they get abusive, leave, or sit there and listen intently for a half hour.

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe
yes i am pretty sure that a bunch of rich white people in williamsburg renting a comedy venue had security. i'm pretty sure the venue itself had security.

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe
they both refrained from removing him from the stage, which they were within their power to do as organizers of an event in a williamsburg comedy club, and refused to talk to him about why he was wrong. he stuck around after the show and invited them to tell him why he was wrong but instead only recieved vocal abuse and attempts to start conflict. it's not a great bit but it's not hard to understand the goal of the bit.

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe
it literally is in the same vein as andy kaufman convincing the majority of america that a pro wrestling angle was completely real because he said mean stuff about women and made everyone want jerry the king lawler to legitimately break his neck with a piledriver

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

Agag posted:

The goal of the bit was to just fuckin' say poo poo to those PC faggots' faces. And they just have to fuckin' listen to it. They think they're so fuckin' cool, little hipster fucks. But Sam showed them! So good. So funny.

no, see, the bit is that they didn't have to listen to it at all. but they did. they chose to listen to it. some people left and literally waited outside the front door of the venue to insult him and scream at his face in the street. the bit is that everyone in the room had the agency and control to deny him a voice, but they refused to do so, because they preferred conflict.

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe
he could have been made to leave at any time. the only people in that room with any power were the audience and organizers. just because sam was on stage talking into a microphone did not make him an oppressor, he was a guest at an open mic twitter event who could have been removed by event staff at any time.

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

Agag posted:

So the joke is that if you say things people find hateful, some of them will hate you? Hilarious.

the joke is that a certain type of privileged white person prefers to feel put upon and endangered by incorrect thought, and respond with self righteous anger and violence, over exercising their agency as individuals and using their power to define the terms of their space.

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe
there are other stand up videos where the event staff removes him from the stage immediately and the audience doesn't attack him outside after calmly listening to him list statistics for 20 minutes. its weird how context changes things and only "weird twitter" has the idea to patiently wait until he's done and then scream obscenities at him on the street.

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D71iSwArWVI

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:

So he's doing the "say friend of the family near black people" youtube gimmick, but he's too afraid of black people and does it in front of hipsters instead.

if by black people you mean incredibly rich white people, yes.

did you get a little half erection from typing the word friend of the family in a safe way? contextually appropriate? you're protecting them, so it's ok, right?

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

PHIZ KALIFA posted:

yeah but the method used matters more than the end result. anyone can make anyone angry, that's not a skill, that's not a talent. he isn't saying anything worth listening to. him getting up there and being offensive just shuts the audience down, turns them against him. if he had an ounce of sense he'd figure out how to get the audience on his side, THEN reveal himself to be a terrible person. this creates an uncomfortable rift, invites self-observation, makes the audience realize they're the joke.

all of this post-hoc rationalization is wasted, sam hyde's racist libertarian schtick is joking on he square. he really is the person he pretends to be, because that's the work he puts into this world.

the top ten prison stand up posted a month or so ago is more in the vein of what you describe in your first paragraph.

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy3YqsUk5Nc

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

Tashan Dorrsett posted:

the videos have a lot more views than they say; the channel's been taken down twice and most of the videos have been reuploaded and deleted numerous times. but i also have no idea how sam hyde makes money.

they all have other jobs. nick works at a car dealership iirc, this is mostly a spare time thing i think.

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

Tautologicus posted:

I find Charles to be much more talented and interesting overall than Sam, Sam is kind of a buffoon but that's what is funny about him.

charles posts some absolutely insane stuff on facebook and is probably the only one in the group who is actually libertarian or right wing or who even pays attention to politics. i am concerned he may be mentally unwell.

but what a cutie pie.

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

bonvivant posted:

he likes gamergate lmfao

he's a retard who has just under 200 hours in dota 2 on steam. funny comedic actor though

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcfpEdhHRJo

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

net cafe scandal posted:

Finding Charls' FB is what put me off MDE for a while... hes a fcking nut.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBP3gqHhvBA

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

Agag posted:

MDE fans are very mad that some people don't think MDE is funny.

no one is mad. unless you mean the "mad" (mad used as a term indicating mental illness) people who are claiming to be able to discern the emotional state of a group of people on an internet forum

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBXEvHv3Vjs

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe
Agag identifies as a Dark Eldar servant of Slaanesh, and rapes/murders women and children in service of his space god.

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Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe

Blue Train posted:

glad we could establish this

thanks, master race supremacist.

Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4dR_p-ABiE

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Under the vegetable
Nov 2, 2004

by Smythe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfdFNS6ycgo

anyone post the one with will sasso i forget

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