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bowmore posted:I never edited that post, that's odd You clearly did. Explain yourself. bowmore posted:
stop this right the hell now you gently caress Accident or no if I see you edit another post at all I'm going to modkill you god drat.
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May 25, 2015 07:47
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the first one was a legit butt edit
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May 25, 2015 07:47
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I have literally never before in my entire life heard of a butt edit. And I don't give a hoot regardless, if I see a "bowmore hosed around" again, your butt is grass.
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May 25, 2015 07:49
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this is what happens when you (accidentally) edit posts new kids, don't do it, it's not worth it
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May 25, 2015 07:53
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bowmore posted:this is what happens when you (accidentally) edit posts new kids, don't do it, it's not worth it good advice
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May 25, 2015 08:02
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Phone posting because my internet is living up to its reputation of being poo poo. 1. I too am curious about butt editing. That's a new one. It also brings back my earlier suspicions on BM. 2. Awkward self put downs aside, I'm willing to agree that WWWs behaviour has been a bit inconsistent and could do with some closer scrutiny.
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May 25, 2015 08:27
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Ok I have to know: Are people saying butt editing or cloud editing? Because I have the Clouds to Butts extension and am confused.
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May 25, 2015 08:35
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Gridlocked posted:Ok I have to know: But everything is in the cloud these days!
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May 25, 2015 08:39
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Gridlocked posted:Ok I have to know: It's butt editing. anyway, now that my internet is working again and I don't have to phone post. ##Vote WWM
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May 25, 2015 08:56
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DGK2000 posted:But everything is in the cloud these days! Well played DGK well played.
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May 25, 2015 09:00
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Gridlocked posted:Sorry this is going back a few pages but I wasn't sure if DC answered my and FV's questions. No, I believe wwm would shaft Shanakin to make it look like they were doing a good job of finding scum. It's called "bussing" as in throwing people under the bus. I'm willing to switch to wwm off of Shanakin
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May 25, 2015 09:27
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Dead Cow posted:No, I believe wwm would shaft Shanakin to make it look like they were doing a good job of finding scum. It's called "bussing" as in throwing people under the bus. I assumed that was what bussing meant  That's cool you are willing to swap; what is your response to my word vomit on the previous page?
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May 25, 2015 09:38
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Asiina posted:I think bowmore is someone who isn't really paying a whole lot of attention, but I don't see that as a scumtell for him. I feel like the Shanakin case is pretty shaky. Yes he (she?) was one of the people who didn't vote for DC at the end of the day, and that is suspicious, but I'll take Shanakin and Gridlocked at their word that Shanakin forgot deadline. The rest looks like typical newbie awkwardness and is generally null. With a gun to my head I'd vote Shanakin, but I think there are much better votes out there currently. So...right now you think they are both town? Or scum? Those are some pretty vague opinions.
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May 25, 2015 10:32
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Gridlocked posted:You know what guys: ##vote WWM To me this is not a particularly convincing point. Wrong does not equal scum. If WWM was town, how would he know that Grandi was a cop? Gridlocked posted:b) Day 2: WWM starts blasting mienberg and myself for voting for DC and "bandwagoning" despite the fact a day 1 lynch would have been just as good for him/her as everyone else assuming s/he was a townie. Is there a reason WWM doesn't want people to vote for DC? I think you're misinterpreting WWM here. I dont see that he doesn't want people to vote DC, but he's looking at the motivation of people's voting at the end of the day. Gridlocked posted:c) WWM wants me to explain if I think DC is a townie (as I said I thought she was during Day 1). Why would s/he care about my opinion on that? Strangely specific in the circumstances. No, this is how you play mafia. You get people to commit to concrete opinions and then watch how their opinions change throughout the game. Are they consistent? Are their thought processes clear? This is much harder for scum to do because they know more than town and have to lie. Gridlocked posted:d) S/he claims DGK is a bigger threat then someone a number of people have fingered as a newbie scum. Jumping on the DGK bandwagon. Why would they do the bandwagon after blasting two people for the same on day 1? And why would you bandwagon so easily when you are someone who has already made clear your hatred of it? Answer: S/he already knew, before Grandis cop post, that DGK was a townie and wanted to get the free townie kill because they thought everyone would bandwagon DGK hard (which we did) and maybe drop the hammer. Also: What kind of rear end in a top hat hangs a fellow scum out to dry? Why wouldn't you try to help them post better? I can see this from WWM's perspective. If I thought an experienced player and a new player were both scum, I'd want to lynch the more experienced player first. The longer you leave inexperienced scum alive, the more likely they are to make it obvious who their scum buddies are. Gridlocked posted:e)WWM now thinks DC is a scum, citing the "no lynch" was suspicious. Blames Shanakin and DGK. Hold up there son, you just annoyed at two people for voting DC to death, wanted me to reinforce that I thought DC was a townie and are NOW upset that the no lynch happened? YOU could have voted for her, but you didn't. And yet here you are saying it's Shanakin and DGK's fault that she didn't get lynched. It sure does look like someone is protecting DC, but it ain't Shanakin or DGK. See point b.
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May 25, 2015 10:46
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Shanakin posted:Phone posting because my internet is living up to its reputation of being poo poo. Shanakin, can you point out which posts that you think WWM has been inconsistent in?
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May 25, 2015 10:48
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Dead Cow posted:No, I believe wwm would shaft Shanakin to make it look like they were doing a good job of finding scum. It's called "bussing" as in throwing people under the bus. It seems like an unnecessary bus to me. Shanakin had one other vote and WWM goes in hard with his case. I know people bus, but I don't understand what WWM's motivation would be to bus here. Shanakin wasn't under any threat at the time and there doesn't seem to be any connection between them before that which would indicate they were scum buds.
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May 25, 2015 10:51
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So FV do you think WWM is scum or not? Also considering you were asking after both Shanakin and myself: do you think we are both scum, both townies or a mix?
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May 25, 2015 11:02
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I think DC is the most likely scum. D1 she posted a lot of negative posts about Kleedrac, but without actually committing to calling him scum or voting him. 1 2 3 When I asked her to clarify her position on Kleedrac, she hedged and wouldn't commit to an alignment call. 1 2 These are scummy behaviours because they allow her to put pressure on a player without being seen as a prime instigator in their lynch, while at the same time giving her the ability to be wrong about that player and later say "well I wasn't sure". Today her opinions on WWM and Shanakin dont make a lot of sense, unless you are assuming that WWM came out early bussing his companion who was in no current danger. Yes, it is possible for that scenario to occur, but is it the most likely scenario? DC is really having to follow a convoluted thought process to make her opinions line up with the content in the game. This is really anti-Occam's razor. DC is stating that the most unlikely version of events are probably true.
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Gridlocked posted:So FV do you think WWM is scum or not? No, I think WWM is town. I think you're town too. I dont agree with your case on WWM but I think it shows that you're thinking and engaged with the game and being honest with your thought processes. Shanakin is probably scum. All of his posts scream newbie and a lot of them are pretty scummy.
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fiery_valkyrie posted:I think DC is the most likely scum. Did you notice in my posts about WWM I had a DC connection? Maybe I was looking at it the wrong way. Also you didn't answer my question about myself or Shanakin. Do you not love me FV  ?
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May 25, 2015 11:16
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Nevermind that 2nd sentence I replied too fast.
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May 25, 2015 11:16
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Gridlocked posted:Did you notice in my posts about WWM I had a DC connection? Maybe I was looking at it the wrong way. I don't like trying to make connections between unflipped players. You're building too much of a theory on guesses.
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May 25, 2015 11:18
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Someone else has said it better than me already this game. Let me see if I can find the post.
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May 25, 2015 11:19
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It was about chain lynches, but the point is the same.Quandary posted:Honestly the main reason I think chain lynches are bad is that they're distracting and completely irrelevant. Discuss the impact of someone's scum flip after they flip scum when you actually know a flip, not before.
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May 25, 2015 11:21
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fiery_valkyrie posted:It was about chain lynches, but the point is the same. Yes I can see that is very true. So maybe I am wrong about WWM and will ##unvote for now. However DC was on my suspect list and I see she is on yours too. Am very very tempted to vote for her now.
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fiery_valkyrie posted:Shanakin, can you point out which posts that you think WWM has been inconsistent in? Welp I got nothing. I was pretty convinced by grid when he presented his explanation and regrettably trusted it on face value. However now that you've poked a bunch of holes in it, and I've gone back I see we've confused the timeline somewhat by looking at player post history pages. I kinda wish we weren't made unconfirmed masons, as it makes it harder for everyone else to trust us, but also leads us to feeding awkward newbie ideas off each other. I can understand why he did it, and don't really object, but it has been a bit awkward. ##Unvote
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May 25, 2015 11:33
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Shanakin posted:Welp I got nothing. I was pretty convinced by grid when he presented his explanation and regrettably trusted it on face value. However now that you've poked a bunch of holes in it, and I've gone back I see we've confused the timeline somewhat by looking at player post history pages. Based on your interactions with Grid in your masonry, do you think he is being honest with you? do you think he is being honest with everyone else in this thread?
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May 25, 2015 11:40
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I don't think so, but he's a significantly better poker player than I am.
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May 25, 2015 11:42
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I suppose theoretically he could have invited my to play blood bowl as a distraction both to burn my pastries and prevent my voting but it seems unlikely.
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May 25, 2015 11:43
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Shanakin posted:I don't think so, but he's a significantly better poker player than I am. You don't think he's being honest?
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May 25, 2015 11:44
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Shanakin posted:I suppose theoretically he could have invited my to play blood bowl as a distraction both to burn my pastries and prevent my voting but it seems unlikely. With my dying PC in order to show you that it is in fact dying, unlike what playing an hour of CS in front of you failed to do.
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May 25, 2015 11:44
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fiery_valkyrie posted:You don't think he's being honest?
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May 25, 2015 11:46
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Shanakin posted:I don't think so, but he's a significantly better poker player than I am. The one time we have played poker in recent memory I only won because I called another friends bluff while I was sitting on 2 pair anyway. And Shanakin hadn't played poker before that night.
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May 25, 2015 11:52
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FV: Do you suspect DC or Shanakin more?
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May 25, 2015 11:59
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Gridlocked posted:FV: Do you suspect DC or Shanakin more? DC.
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Follow up questions: Why is DC voting for Shanakin then? He is doing a good job of hiding it from me if he is getting thrown under the bus by her; dosen't seem to care. Also if Shanakin (or myself) gets lynched and comes up mafia, will you believe the other is innocent? Being somewhat selfish here but if my mate gets blaped I have a bad feeling people will, incorrectly, assume I am scum.
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May 25, 2015 12:28
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fiery_valkyrie posted:I think DC is the most likely scum. Because my focus was on bowmore, and later on bowmore, you and wwm I dropped you from the equation because you actually started sounding like you weren't being influenced by outside knowledge. I think wwm is bussing shanakin because shanakin is very obviously scum.
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Gridlocked posted:Follow up questions: The problem with your questions is that you are assuming I think both DC and Shanakin are scum together. While I do think they are both scum, my opinion of each is irrespective of the alignment of the other. I'm not trying to tie my thoughts about them together, because I am still keeping in mind that I could be wrong about one or both. As for your second question, I don't know. It would depend on who flipped. It would depend on future posts from both of you. It would depend on who voted and the reasons they gave for voting.
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Dead Cow posted:Because my focus was on bowmore, and later on bowmore, you and wwm So if we lynched Shanakin and he was scum you don't think it is possible that WWM was just town who thought he was scum? Quandary has also made a case on Shanakin. Is he scum too?
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