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NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009


the problem is you're pretending porn is a medium when it's a glorified outlet of sexual gratification

while sure porn can be a medium virtually nobody watches porn and consumes it like one does a tv show or movie, they do so to attain sexual pleasure, which makes your hi-larious hand-wringing about how black people are portrayed within it (not to mention how you don't point out that sexual fetishes are definitionally private so it's not indicative of any greater cultural movement so much as "what gets my motor running") so dumb

and again you're ignoring my taking the logical extreme of your dumb argument; 30% of women have rape fantasies, rape fetishes, or consume rape porn (and that number is probably a lowball). What does that "say" about society? That 30% of women want to get raped, or just that it's a fairly common fetish amongst women because, and this is important, they're able to distinguish fantasy from reality?

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Vanderdeath
Oct 1, 2005

I will confess,
I love this cultured hell that tests my youth.





Toxxupation posted:

the problem is you're pretending porn is a medium when it's a glorified outlet of sexual gratification

while sure porn can be a medium virtually nobody watches porn and consumes it like one does a tv show or movie, they do so to attain sexual pleasure, which makes your hi-larious hand-wringing about how black people are portrayed within it (not to mention how you don't point out that sexual fetishes are definitionally private so it's not indicative of any greater cultural movement so much as "what gets my motor running") so dumb

and again you're ignoring my taking the logical extreme of your dumb argument; 30% of women have rape fantasies, rape fetishes, or consume rape porn (and that number is probably a lowball). What does that "say" about society? That 30% of women want to get raped, or just that it's a fairly common fetish amongst women because, and this is important, they're able to distinguish fantasy from reality?

At this point you're just talking past me, man. I just said that biases and stuff can be reinforced and replicated in various media (of which porn is) and that some of that ranges from pernicious to actually harmful. This is a silly derail and if y'all want to continue it in PMs, I'll be glad to.

Astroman
Apr 8, 2001




Vanderdeath posted:

Jesus Christ, man.


No, I don't, but there's been plenty of studies about how media and perceptive biases affect the public subconscious. I don't have access to Sage anymore but there was a recent study and article done that coincided with the Michael Brown shooting that goes into detail about the phenomenon. I'm not saying "all poo poo is bad therefore don't consume [x]" like a Concerned Mom, I'm just saying that some prejudices, biases and misconceptions are propagated by differing forms of media and spread throughout the cultural milieu that way.

Well, thanks for raising our awareness about the problematic title of the new ABC network sitcom "Uncle Buck." I can assure you that I will not be watching it, and you can take full credit for making that change in the world, if you like.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬




Even urban dictionary only brings up race in the most fleeting of mentions for the term 'buck', it's not going to be a factor whatsoever.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007



"Boondoggle" and "pull the wool over one's eyes" have a bad racial background to them too, but guess what- people still use them. If you got a problem with it, write a thinkpiece on your Tumblr about it. Can we go back to Muppets hype now?

Ither
Jan 30, 2010


Huh. I never realized that "buck" had a negative history. All this time, I thought it was just another term for a hot guy.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.




Mister Kingdom posted:

It kinda looks like what they did with the Looney Tunes Show with Bugs, Daffy, and the gang in a traditional sitcom setting.

Let's hope that's not the case.

The Looney Tunes Show was good though, so I don't know why we would not want that to be the case.

GLOSS posted:

The Muppets trailer flat out slipped a "Electric Mayhem smoked hella weed back in the day" joke in and I can't loving wait to watch the poo poo out of that every god drat week.

I would expect weed to be on the milder side of the things the Electric Mayhem did.

Jose Oquendo posted:

WTF. Dude like that other goon said, go watch The Muppet Movie right now. Then go track down some episodes of The Muppet Show. It's very creative and ahead of its time.

Really you should just watch everything with Jim Henson's name on it (at least, before and including the '80s). Fraggle Rock took on some heavy concepts for a kids' show.

Astroman posted:

The larger question in my opinion, is who was really clamoring for a tv remake of a 25 year old movie? Must be the same people who really want to see Coach back on the air. :iiam:

Somehow it worked for 5 years with Parenthood, so...?

raditts fucked around with this message at 14:52 on May 18, 2015

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.




Vanderdeath posted:

At this point you're just talking past me, man. I just said that biases and stuff can be reinforced and replicated in various media (of which porn is) and that some of that ranges from pernicious to actually harmful. This is a silly derail and if y'all want to continue it in PMs, I'll be glad to.

Look man, I'm as angry black man as it gets and even I think this conversation is loving ridiculous.

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

I watched the pilot for Dr. Ken as part of a focus group



Focused on Ken making weird jokes at his doctors office, tracking his daughter's location using a cell phone app, and the asian kid from Trophy Wife being involved in some play. Kens offensive humor felt out of place for a multi camera sitcom, and because he was the only one doing it.

Golden Bee
Dec 24, 2009

I came here to chew bubblegum and quote 'They Live', and I'm... at an impasse.


Mr Beens posted:

Why are there so many tv versions of movies all of a sudden?

Executives can cover their rear end in a rapidly changing market if they can say, "Hey, About a Boy was a hit film, the audience is still around!"

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007



Ither posted:

Huh. I never realized that "buck" had a negative history. All this time, I thought it was just another term for a hot guy.
Ronald Reagan, ever the disgusting racist piece of poo poo, used the term "strapping young buck" on the campaign trail back in 1980 at the beginning of a story that was meant to rally other racist pieces of poo poo to vote for him. I forget exactly what it was about, but if it's anything like the infamous "welfare queen" story, it was based completely on hearsay.

Also, a "buck" is a male deer so it might be derived from there too.

Vanderdeath
Oct 1, 2005

I will confess,
I love this cultured hell that tests my youth.





raditts posted:

Look man, I'm as angry black man as it gets and even I think this conversation is loving ridiculous.

It totally was and I got my angry black guy hackles up for no drat reason.

Sleeveless
Dec 25, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!


Mr Beens posted:

Why are there so many tv versions of movies all of a sudden?

"all of a sudden"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgnbNZsi-UE

Fat Lowtax
Nov 9, 2008


"I'm willing to pay up to $1200 for a big anime titty"




The Bachelorette is on ABC.

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

At the end of 2018, a study was published by London Metropolitan University showing that certain bacteria, normally present only in intestinal tracts or feces, were found on McDonald's self-service screens.





That is a sad looking IMDB page, Kevin Meaney.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light


He's a godawful standup.

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!


All that comedy and wacky antics in that intro, just a reminder: Those kids are are all recently orphaned.

Make with the yucks, people!

edit: At least Horsin' Around lasted more than one season with the same plot.

JediTalentAgent fucked around with this message at 02:52 on May 19, 2015

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Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

At the end of 2018, a study was published by London Metropolitan University showing that certain bacteria, normally present only in intestinal tracts or feces, were found on McDonald's self-service screens.




The biggest crime in that intro is the fake-rear end looking giant pancake. At least in the movie it appeared to be real. Thats just like a piece of cardboard.

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