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NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

GLOSS posted:

The Muppets trailer flat out slipped a "Electric Mayhem smoked hella weed back in the day" joke in and I can't loving wait to watch the poo poo out of that every god drat week.

oh that was the joke, oh my god that's great

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NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Vanderdeath posted:

That doesn't particularly make it pardonable though. While the Uncle Buck thing is unrelated to the racial term, "black buck" has had a far reaching effect that's still felt today. Hell, look no further than modern pornography where the term is, A: still used and B: used to treat black men as an Other (something that's still happening across America in a huge way).

It's unfortunate and won't be changed but it's unintentionally odious.

are you seriously pretending that an industry that explicitly trades in fetishization and fantasy is at all indicative of cultural trends?

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009
like lol of all the examples you could've used about how race relations in america are strained and how the uncle buck name looks super bad because it stars a black dude you went with porn, maybe the one example that isn't valid

didn't go with cops shooting black people all the time, or entrenched racism, no. porn.

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

sticklefifer posted:

If I had to guess, 12 Monkeys was critically well received and got a 2nd season so everyone was like "poo poo we can do that too, let's greenlight every adaptation pilot we have".

you...really have no idea how shows are produced do you

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Vanderdeath posted:

If you don't think one of the most consumed forms of media has an effect on the perceptions of people then I'm just gonna assume you're going full Irish Joe.


oh poo poo 30% of women have rape fantasies/consume rape porn! that must mean that 30% of women want to be raped!

-forums user vanderdeath

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009
like lol at the concept that people can't distinguish fantasy from reality, especially in such a falsified, fetishized medium as fuckin' porn

jfc

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NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009
the problem is you're pretending porn is a medium when it's a glorified outlet of sexual gratification

while sure porn can be a medium virtually nobody watches porn and consumes it like one does a tv show or movie, they do so to attain sexual pleasure, which makes your hi-larious hand-wringing about how black people are portrayed within it (not to mention how you don't point out that sexual fetishes are definitionally private so it's not indicative of any greater cultural movement so much as "what gets my motor running") so dumb

and again you're ignoring my taking the logical extreme of your dumb argument; 30% of women have rape fantasies, rape fetishes, or consume rape porn (and that number is probably a lowball). What does that "say" about society? That 30% of women want to get raped, or just that it's a fairly common fetish amongst women because, and this is important, they're able to distinguish fantasy from reality?

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