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Here's the old A/T thread about ditching shampoo: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3192687
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I used to be greasy after 24 hours or less. Now I shampoo every several days or just wash the front part around my face. Use dry shampoo and don't touch the roots too much the rest of the time. I like it because now my hair is wet less often. I think it has a little more life and texture too but that's from the dry shampoo.
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May 26, 2015 05:43
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Also note: the baking soda + vinegar method is garbage that will very slowly but surely destroy your hair and scalp, baking soda is waaaaay too alkali for your hair and vinegar does not correct the ph problem at all. Baking soda does not belong anywhere near your hair.  http://blog.kanelstrand.com/2014/01/baking-soda-destroyed-my-hair.html https://www.futurederm.com/3-reasons-why-baking-soda-and-apple-cider-vinegar-destroy-your-hair-and-what-to-use-instead/
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May 26, 2015 06:33
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So you want to stop using shampoo? - A Guide 1. Pick up shampoo 2. Throw shampoo in garbage 3. Do not buy more shampoo Bonus Optional Step: 4. Continue to wash hair daily, scrub vigorously and massage scalp Congratulations, you have stopped using shampoo!
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May 26, 2015 12:42
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I ditched shampoo a few years ago. I can't see myself ever going back. Probably helps that I keep my hair pretty short nowadays. I actually get compliments on how my hair feels/looks now. When I shampooed regularly my hair was always really limp and I'd have to put a ton of poo poo in it to get it to do anything.
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May 26, 2015 16:29
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Just to present yet another wildly varying experience, I also have very thick, fine, frizz-prone hair that got greasy super drat quickly (I have waist-length hair, but also bangs, hence the concern), and a couple years ago I put in a lot of time/effort to wean off shampoo. The main issue I wanted to resolve was the greasiness, but I also drank the anti-sulfates koolaid, so this definitely influenced my uh determination. IIRC, methods used (not all at the same time, I gave each at least two or three months of consistent trial) were water-only washes, conditioner washes, and as a last ditch effort, sulfate-free shampoo used once a week. Water-only left my hair limp and greasy-looking even when it wasn't, same thing with co-washing (though I should note that my hair loving hates rinse-off conditioner with a burning passion). Sulfate-free shampoos gave me a flakey as gently caress scalp, which is an issue I had never, ever had previously (and which persisted through at least three brands of sulfate-free shampoo). Eventually I admitted my woes to a hair dresser friend and she lovingly rolled her eyes at me and told me to a) buy better shampoo, b) use it every 2-3 days, and c) get by with dry shampoo on off days. The transition took as long as it took for me to find a good shampoo and dry shampoo (Batiste's products are great, fwiw), so less than a week, with no gross transitional period. Now I generally shampoo because the dry shampoo in my bangs is starting to itch (usually on day 3), not because of the rest of my hair is looking greasy. If I didn't have bangs/put product in said bangs I'd probably shampoo once a week or so. You don't need to ditch shampoo wholesale to get oil production to chill out, especially if you don't have any existing skin irritation, dry scalp, or other issues caused/exacerbated by a harsh shampoo formula. Which is all to say that it's pretty much a crapshoot in terms of what's going to work best for you, imo, and that sulfate-free, no 'poo and other trends in hair care are not one size fits all solutions: they absolutely can be the perfect solution for any given person, as other posters here have experienced, they just aren't the One True Path. YMMV.
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May 26, 2015 21:16
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My wife ditched shampoo a few months ago in favor of homemade organic soap and a spritz or three of diluted apple cider vinegar. Her hair's never been softer. Seems to work pretty well.
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May 27, 2015 06:01
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Scudworth posted:Also note: the baking soda + vinegar method is garbage that will very slowly but surely destroy your hair and scalp, baking soda is waaaaay too alkali for your hair and vinegar does not correct the ph problem at all. Baking soda does not belong anywhere near your hair. So rye flour mixed with lukewarm water then? http://blog.kanelstrand.com/2014/02/testing-diy-shampoos-rye-flour.html
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May 27, 2015 11:41
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AmyL posted:So rye flour mixed with lukewarm water then? Also no? But natural living bloggers desperate attempts to find any laughable alternative to Big Shampoo aside, baking soda is still not something to ever safely put in your hair. Sure neither is rye flour but that's not going to damage it at least (her plumbing is another story though).
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May 27, 2015 12:24
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The "natural shampoo alternatives" really are the stupidest thing. If you're gonna stop just stop.
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May 27, 2015 13:59
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Use shampoo still but use only a little bit.
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May 27, 2015 16:31
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Scudworth posted:Also no? But natural living bloggers desperate attempts to find any laughable alternative to Big Shampoo aside, baking soda is still not something to ever safely put in your hair. I'm only asking because you had a link from that site. I use shampoo myself but now I'm curious about the debate regarding shampoo vs non-shampoo
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May 27, 2015 17:15
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When people ask how is my hair so soft.... I do not want to tell them I use shampoo 2x a month...
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May 27, 2015 19:50
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Can we take a break from discussing the sham that is poo, to instead discuss how bullshit hair covers are for your shower? Those fuckers always break off no matter what and then they're sliding all about, being a god drat nuisance.
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May 28, 2015 18:08
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POWERBALL posted:I shampoo and condition every day. If I don't shampoo my hair gets super greasy. If I don't condition my hair gets frizzy. But it's usually greasy by the end of the day or the next morning anyway. My hair is super thick, fine, and soft. I think there used to be a thread about this but I didn't see it in the first few pages of this forum. I'm still parsing this sentence, hang on.
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May 28, 2015 18:20
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Darth123123 posted:I'm still parsing this sentence, hang on. The hair is dense (super thick), not coarse (fine) and not stiff (soft). Not that difficult to understand.
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May 28, 2015 18:57
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Bip Roberts posted:Keep using shampoo.
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May 29, 2015 09:37
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IME, the one thing the bloggers never ever mention is that if you have hard water, good luck balancing that pH with the pH of your anti-poo of choice. Baking soda or castile soap (another one that was suggested in the last no-poo thread) are much more alkaline than your hair, and if your water is also alkaline... enjoy that ultra-dry, brittle, dirty-feeling hair! Also definitely have the right brush and learn to brush your hair properly root to tip because you will end up with a greasy scalp no matter what shampoo/faux-poo you use if you're not brushing the oils back into your hair. Honestly I don't like no/faux-poo methods. I have yet to find one that works for me after a few years of trying, only ones that are semi-adequate and require more work than a bottle of shampoo. My husband on the other hand likes it because his hair has more texture and body to it now. So my advice is to try it (but not with baking soda!) but don't throw away your shampoo just yet.
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May 29, 2015 16:05
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LogisticEarth posted:The hair is dense (super thick), not coarse (fine) and not stiff (soft). Not that difficult to understand. Gotcha, in that case Bip Roberts posted:Keep using shampoo.
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May 29, 2015 16:59
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Don't take my or any other goon's advice about this, because the answer depends on exactly how thick, oily, curly, etc your hair is. Go talk to a dermatologist, or failing that, at least a hair stylist. They can give you advice that is more tailored to your particular hair and skin type. "Shampoo" is also not a very useful descriptor - there are many different types of shampoo for a reason. You'll probably have to try a lot of them to find one that works well.
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May 29, 2015 20:47
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Update: I bought some Batiste dry shampoo and I'm going to start taking a day off from wet shampoo and use the dry stuff on off days.
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May 31, 2015 05:13
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POWERBALL posted:Update: I bought some Batiste dry shampoo and I'm going to start taking a day off from wet shampoo and use the dry stuff on off days. That's like cat shampoo, right?
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Jun 3, 2015 21:14
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get dreadlocks op
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Jesustheastronaut! posted:do not get dreadlocks unless you are black op
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Jun 4, 2015 15:18
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For some reason, a lot of people equate "stop using shampoo" with "stop washing your hair". There shouldn't be any transition period where you have to get used to your hair being greasy. You just use conditioner like you would use shampoo and scrub your scalp with that instead of soapy lather. I have curly hair and I haven't shampooed my hair in months. It's much less frizz prone, softer, and hydrated. But I clean my hair every time I'm in the shower, so it's not greasy or gross. Steps to stop using shampoo: 1. Wet your hair in the shower 2. Take a big glob of conditioner and put it on the top of your head 3. Massage the conditioner into your scalp, agitate it with your fingers and scrub it around thoroughly for a few minutes. Don't forget the sides of you head and just above your neck. 4. Let conditioner sit for a few minutes, work more into the rest of the hair if you have long hair 5. Rinse out It's really not difficult and your hair should never be greasy and disgusting. You have to do more than just rinse your hair with water every few days, that is awful and your hair will be awful if that's all you do. If you use a lot of silicone products and you find that your hair is heavy and flat, just use a non-sulfate shampoo to get it back to normal and then continue the conditioner scrubbing routine.
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Jun 5, 2015 16:35
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I just can't make the jump to stop using shampoo, but I have been using sulfate-free shampoos for a couple years with good results. I've noticed that sulfate-free paraben-free shampoos are cheaper and easier to find than ever, especially if you look in the "ethnic" beauty section of Walmart. It's not rare expensive luxury shampoo anymore. Right now I'm using a Milk & Olive Oil shampoo I found at "dollar" store.Megaspel posted:Can we take a break from discussing the sham that is poo, to instead discuss how bullshit hair covers are for your shower? Those fuckers always break off no matter what and then they're sliding all about, being a god drat nuisance. After trying many crappy drain covers, I found the ultimate hair stopper, OXO Good Grips Bathtub Drain Protector. It's loving amazing. 
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Jun 5, 2015 19:15
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Isn't conditioner basically shampoo?
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Jun 6, 2015 05:15
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I shampoo my hair maybe once or twice a week with Jason dandruff shampoo. My hair kicks rear end now
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Jun 6, 2015 12:11
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Obdicut posted:Isn't conditioner basically shampoo? No. Conditioner only has a minuscule amount of sulficants. That's why if you switch to cleaning your hair with conditioner only, you need to use a fuckload of it.
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Jun 6, 2015 12:30
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copper rose petal posted:For some reason, a lot of people equate "stop using shampoo" with "stop washing your hair". There shouldn't be any transition period where you have to get used to your hair being greasy. You just use conditioner like you would use shampoo and scrub your scalp with that instead of soapy lather. Note that Conditioner is meant to be absorbed by your hair, rather than washed away, so it does a pretty poo poo job of cleaning your hair/scalp. If your hair is naturally oily, you really shouldn't do this. If your hair is naturally dry and you want some fuller/moister/thicker hair, then it's probably fine, but you're probably not cleaning your hair as well as you might think. Obdicut posted:Isn't conditioner basically shampoo? Conditioner is basically a moisturizer + oils that are supposedly beneficial for your hair. It's going to do a much worse job than shampoo when it comes to cleaning your scalp/hair, although it does have some of the same chemicals as shampoo QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Jun 7, 2015 |
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Jun 7, 2015 17:48
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Become a homeless vagrant.
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Jun 8, 2015 00:14
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I have never used conditioner knowingly. The one time I used it accidentally my hair got super bouffant and I looked like a televangelist.
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Jun 8, 2015 02:19
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Any updates on how bad your head smells?
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Jun 9, 2015 01:10
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QuarkJets posted:Note that Conditioner is meant to be absorbed by your hair, rather than washed away, so it does a pretty poo poo job of cleaning your hair/scalp. If your hair is naturally oily, you really shouldn't do this. If your hair is naturally dry and you want some fuller/moister/thicker hair, then it's probably fine, but you're probably not cleaning your hair as well as you might think. If you are using the conditioner to scrub your scalp, and not just placing it on top of your hair and then rinsing it off, the agitation is moving the oils around and the scrubbing action is removing other stuff. Just like it is possible to use oil as a cleanser, it is possible to use conditioner as a cleanser. My hair is naturally oily and I live in a tropical, humid climate, and I possess enough personal awareness to know that my hair and scalp are not greasy and smelly.
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ChairMaster posted:Shave your head This will help - even giving yourself a buzz cut will limit the amount of shampoo you need to get your head "clean."
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Jun 10, 2015 01:53
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Just get better shampoo that doesn't gently caress up your hair.
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Jun 11, 2015 16:29
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My scalp got super itchy and flakey several years ago. I tried all kinds of shampoo until I finally discovered T-gel. Its active ingredient is loving coal tar extract, which is also used for things such as asphalt sealant and fuel for fired boilers. I use that shampoo at least once per day, sometimes up to two or three times (I sweat A LOT if I get too warm). My hair is always a perfect texture, just the right amount of oily, not frizzy, and my scalp doesn't ever itch anymore. Even though the shampoo itself smells like locomotive exhaust my hair also somehow smells completely clean at all times. I guess my point is sometimes you have to just forget the hippie bullshit a succumb to the wonders of industry.
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Jun 12, 2015 03:01
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Zyme posted:My scalp got super itchy and flakey several years ago. I tried all kinds of shampoo until I finally discovered T-gel. Its active ingredient is loving coal tar extract, which is also used for things such as asphalt sealant and fuel for fired boilers. I use that shampoo at least once per day, sometimes up to two or three times (I sweat A LOT if I get too warm). T gel has been around a long time and is sworn by a lot of people. Good deal washing your hair goon!
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Jun 12, 2015 03:04
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Scalp yourself op, and others
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Coal tar is a really common treatment for skin conditions.
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