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Oct 4, 2008

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Darth123123 posted:

What does that even mean? "Well yeah, he's a pedo/rapist, but only I can call him that"?

e:
Lmao

Legitimate "rape rape" is where a man holds a woman or child down and forcefully sticks his penis in her vagina while she struggles and screams and cries. HTH.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Wedemeyer posted:

I honestly wonder if Josh told his parents first just to get the jump and make it look like he was repentant. Then when that worked he went back to raping/molesting his sisters, confesses again, and the cycle continues until he finally gets married. Him snitching on himself first meant it looks like his sisters were total 'whores' and asking for it and such. Poor girls. Can't catch a break.

Nah. Josh is no criminal mastermind. These boys are probably trained to confess and repent every time they touch themselves or have any sinful thoughts at all. Maybe even every time they pop a boner. In some groups popping a boner is a moral failing, not a normal physiological process working exactly the way it is supposed to work. Plenty of shame to go around.

I'm pretty sure that's what they mean when they talk about the young girls "leading men into sin". Just popping a boner is sin. Whatever you were looking at or thinking about when the boner went off is the thing that lead you into sin. Teenage boys have random boners all the time, there is no preventing it, so they are dealing with the shame of sin all the time. Since it is a moral failing rather than an embarrassing but normal part of development, they have to keep restricting the things that lead to that sin. Which never ever works, not even if you go extreme muslim and have the women cover everything including their eyes, because the underlying physical process is still going on.

Imagine if when you were growing up and all full of hormones you had to feel shame and repent every single time you popped a boner. Wouldn't that make you a bit crazy? And your only possible means of getting rid of that boner is prayer and cold showers, because masturbation is a serious sexual sin just like fornication or rape.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Obstacle2 posted:

One of the more disturbing aspects of this whole thing is the measures they have put in place to prevent this from happening in the future.
It screams to me that this is a problem in the Duggard household beyond just a single son.

Locks on the doors to the bedrooms, designing their house to physically separate the girls from the boys, and preventing a brother and a sister from being in the room together.

You should never have to worry about siblings being alone together.

I dunno if anyone else is familiar with the Westermarck effect but if you're sons are trying to gently caress your daughters there is something seriously wrong with their environment, if that wasn't already glaringly obvious for other reasons.
I wouldn't be surprised if the the fact that the older siblings have been made to do much of the child-rearing in the house has blurred the line and hosed up this normal evolutionary process.

I get this "boys can never be trusted around women even their own sisters" vibe from them and it really sticks in my craw.

I can't find it now, but I remember reading years ago that brothers are the biological relative most likely to sexually abuse, beating out fathers, grandfathers and uncles. It makes sense to me since they are curious, brothers have constant access, and other girls are scary. Every creepy uncle was a kid once.

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Oct 4, 2008

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BrigadierSensible posted:

Given that the older daughter is refusing to 'court', (in order to protect the younger girls, or because she is gay, or for whatever else reason), I am wondering what happens to 'old maids' in this community.

What happens to the girls that grow older than marrying age but don't find someone to subjugate themselves to totally? Do they have to stay with their parents for eternity?

Probably the same sort of thing that happens to old maids and maiden aunts in most "traditional" communities. Once most of her siblings are grown and out of the home, she is likely to work as a floater helping out whenever there is a crisis or death in one of her siblings' families. She can do housework, child care, teaching and basic medical support in return for food, shelter, and second hand clothing. Eventually her parents will become infirm and since she isn't busy with a family of her own, she'll be expected to be the one to care for them until their deaths.

If she manages to break free from the family but still has no education and no certification of skills her best bet might be to get a job in a church or christian school as a secretary or assistant. It is after all the duty of the church to take care of widows and orphans by providing them with menial work. If she has the charisma and writing skills there is a slim chance of getting work as a writer and speaker either for or against the quiverfull movement, but that's not something you can count on. If none of that pans out she's looking at retail, hospitality or food service, just like all the other uneducated poors with no connections.

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Chinatown posted:

i hope everyone dies

good news, everyone will

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Oct 4, 2008

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Mnemosyne posted:

To be fair, it's actually a lot more work than that for the woman.

It's often much harder on the woman than on the man.

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Oct 4, 2008

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The Bible posted:

A modern understanding of genetics and the effects of inbreeding kind of kills that argument, of course.

Nah. The problem with inbreeding is negative recessive traits. Presumably if an omnipotent god was going to create a single couple to start a species, he wouldn't give them any negative recessive traits. Inbreeding isn't a problem if your genes are perfect. Of course that didn't last long, mutations must happen at a crazy rate to get the diversity of humans we have now in under 6,000 years. Noah's flood must have been radioactive or something.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Commie NedFlanders posted:

actually forgiveness is a wonderful way to deal with things what would you rather them do? post a thread about it?

Yes, actually. The Duggars set themselves up as role models and examples of a godly life. They claim that after Josh got molest-y they talked to other families in the movement and found it that sibling molestation was common and often worse than what Josh had done. And then they covered it up. Buried it. If your way of life leads to sibling molestation being common, you absolutely should talk about that, if only to warn other parents to be on the look out for it. Walling your children in so strangers can't get to them isn't enough to protect them. This is a problem that they absolutely should have been talking about long before now.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Pvt.Scott posted:

It's like rules lawyering for The Lord!

Hallelujah!

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Oct 4, 2008

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Oops, wrong thread

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Oct 4, 2008

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Top City Homo posted:

seriooysly how loving rekt is that vag?

They can stitch 'em up good as new. Transwomen get a vag made out of penis, it must be much easier to make a vag out of vag.



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Oct 4, 2008

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Pook Good Mook posted:

Didn't they famously say they wanted to keep having kids until they got a sign from God to stop?

Wouldn't the necessity of fertility treatments count as like the fifth sign they've gotten?

They have dug too greedily and too deep. It is only a matter of time now until they release the balrog.

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Oct 4, 2008

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BrigadierSensible posted:

Those two unmarried people are touching! Burn the fornicators!!!!

Seriously, I thought they weren't allowed to touch/hug/hold hands until marriage.

Just as serioulsy, he is a bald gay twink, and the poor girl marrying him must know that.

Once you are formally courting side hugs are allowed, as long torso contact is minimized and there is no skin to skin contact.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Polycalypse posted:



Duggars start early.

That baby is ripped.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Heath posted:

Your children only inherit 50% of your genome anyway, and your daughters won't inherit your Y chromosome and none of your children inherit your mitochondrial DNA

Unless you are a woman. Geeze, nice patriarchy.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Krispy Kareem posted:

If by "now that we have people living longer than that" you mean one person. Then yes, Bible Apologists are really worried about that particular verse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...d_oldest_people

The Bible is full of some really terrible explanations for a lot of things, but they actually managed to inexplicably nail the maximum human lifespan due to cell reproduction and degradation.

Maybe that one old lady had no soul. Her flesh was animated by a demon or something.

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Oct 4, 2008

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quote:

Do you believe a couple should live together before considering marriage? "Yes"

Ma and Pa certainly wouldn't agree with that. Looks like everything isn't rosy at home. Maybe never allowing a couple any time alone nor physical contact before marriage isn't actually the best way to ensure compatibility.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Siljmonster posted:

how do you even crank it out to porn when theres like 100 people relatives in your house

Masturbation is forbidden. One kid spent too long in the bathroom and Jim Bob freaked out and tied his hands together.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Wolfman23x posted:

You know I think all this bullshit would subside if Josh would just admit to being a regular guy who likes porn and wimenz and dropped the family religious line bullshit

Oh wait.

He is a pedo. Nevermind. He hosed. Can't undo that one.

Each time you think the ground has bottomed out for this family they get a new shovel and keep digging.

At the risk of serious posting, he is a child molester but he may not be a pedophile. Apparently something like half of child molesters are not pedophiles, they don't actually prefer children, they are just opportunistic losers who take whatever they can get and kids are soft targets.


I think part of the problem is that they regard lust as a sin. And popping a boner is obviously a sign of lust, and therefore a sin, instead of being a normal physical thing that happens to dudes all the time. Using masturbation to get rid of the boner is again a big sin. The only non-sin way to deal with a boner is to gently caress your wife. A woman who dresses in a way that 'makes' your dick move when you ogle her is obviously leading you into sin. So every teenage boy is neck deep in sin by default. If you fail to prevent boners (and you will, obviously) then you are just as much a sexual sinner as any adulterer, rapist or child molester. Looking at porn is just as bad as cheating on your wife or molesting your sister.

The whole problem probably could have been avoided with a designated wank closet stocked with tissues and some old sears catalogs.

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Pvt.Scott posted:

No, the point is he's a sexually repressed Christian and angry about it. When he gets some strange he takes it out on the ladies in a not nice way, and possibly fellas too. Probably At least one gay encounter for "research purposes."

E: the point is he's a "beast" in the bedroom, but not in the positive connotation.

Why wouldn't he treat them like poo poo? They are sluts having sex outside of marriage. Jezebels. Like Eve they are leading him into sin. They are the ones who made his dick move against his will, rendering him helpless. They deserve to be punished.


Hopefully the faith based treatment works, so he doesn't have to become a serial killer to rid the world of all these remorseless whores.

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Oct 4, 2008

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EMILY BLUNTS posted:

p.sure the corduroy sin sign is making fun of the other woman there with the serious sign

Yeah, it was just a joke about corduroy being a fashion sin. Corduroy itself doesn't need to be mixed fabrics.

http://thefbomb.org/2009/11/corduroy-skirts-are-a-sin/

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Oct 4, 2008

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The White Dragon posted:

the articles say she's in her 20s but the crows feet say she's 75

No wonder he cheated. She isn't even bothering with curling her hair or putting on her face anymore.

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Oct 4, 2008

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BrigadierSensible posted:

On the quiverfulls and sex:

So the woman has to "submit to her husband" whenever he is in the mood right? Does this include oral? Anal? Kinky poo poo?

Coz I would imagine with the lack of knowledge both husband and wife hav e about their own and their spouses sexuality, they wouldn't consider anything other than lights off eyes closed missionary vaginal penatrative sex.

I am thinking way too much about this.

A couple virgins rolling around with zero sex ed (not even woods porn!) probably made for a pretty disappointing first night. Once they have actually had sex a few times or had their first baby and aren't 'innocent' they may be able to start discussing things with their older same sex relatives. Middle aged ladies can be pretty frank about stuff.

Some fundies also allow 'marital aids'. (Sex toys.) Some married couples even indulge in certain kinds of porn (no gay stuff).

It's also entirely possible that they find the idea of things like putting your mouth on genitalia to be revolting. Blowjobs were pretty freaky 50 years ago, not something a good girl would ever do. 100 years ago even most non-french prostitutes wouldn't do it. Without porn to tell you this is a normal thing everybody does, oral and anal can seem pretty out there.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Krispy Kareem posted:

She knew about the molestation. She had 12 years to rationalize it in whatever way she could. It sounds like Josh didn't warn anyone about the Ashley Madison accounts, even though he knew it was going to go public. So his family is going to respond like he betrayed them.

Yeah, if he'd come clean to the family and showed appropriate shame and repentance before it hit the news it would have been just a man struggling with sin, as men do. Sitting on it and hoping he wouldn't get caught is counting against him. Of course the fact that he had the accounts for years doesn't help either. If he'd done it the first 6 months he had unfiltered internet access and then come to his senses and confessed everyone would have been happy to forgive him and help him cover it up. Doing poo poo for years and habitually lying about until you get caught red handed kinda makes his repentance sound a little hollow.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Rambling Robot posted:

i bet he's a gbs poster.

Pretty sure this is not one of the 200 websites the boys can look at without an accountability partner.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Josiah just needs to find a nice fundie lesbian he can have a sham marriage with, so they can both get out from under their parents' thumbs.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Medium Cool posted:

i went to high school with this guy and he's definitely a douchebag

Everyone went to highschool with that guy.

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Oct 4, 2008

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It's such a baffling 'shop. If you are going to fake a mission pic, why the beach? The beach just reinforces the "you're paying for our vacation" vibe. A slum, a quaint village or even a church would be better options. Why the beach?

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Oct 4, 2008

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Wow, they are super bad at mission grifting. http://www.dillardfamily.com/blog

Starts pretty strong.

quote:

Dillard Family Ministry Update
July 18, 2015

We are so excited to announce that we have safely arrived on the mission field and we can now tell you that we are in Central America! Israel seems to be adjusting to the new climate, culture, food (via momís milk), and language faster than Jill and I are. In fact, he has been the talk of the town. Everywhere we go, people here about and want to see and hold the, ďbig blue-eyed, white babyĒ LOL. Israel is definitely growing and developing fast. It has also been wonderful to make contact and talk briefly with family back in the US to share updates.

Above all, thank you to God and all our prayer and financial partners. We cannot express enough gratitude for the ways God has been working through so many of you to make this transition for our family as smooth as possible. God has used you all to bless us and to make our vision a reality for those who have yet to put their faith in Jesus Christ, who is our only hope for salvation.

It is encouraging to already see some of the ways God is changing the hearts of the people here. Just 7 days ago, I had the joy of witnessing one elderly woman give lordship of her life to Christ. This transpired just one day after her Christian son was restored to fellowship in his local church. We were at the manís house ministering to him with encouragement from Godís Word when the opportunity was presented to share the hope of the Gospel with his mother. Itís our prayer, and we ask you to please pray with us, that many more would repent of their ways and turn to Godís way for their life.

ďPraise the LORD! Oh give thanks to the LORD, for he is good, for his steadfast love endures forever!Ē -Psalm 106:1

Love,

Derick & Jill

If you would like to financially support our family ministry you can do so here.

Point out LOL brown people, thank the rubes for supporting your trip, throw in an elderly convert anecdote, a bible quote, and then ask for money. Pretty good. Then their next entry is pretty pointless though.

quote:

(Video) Baby Israel Goes For A Ride
August 3, 2015


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbmW44AWvYE

37 seconds of a baby being carried through a generic hotel. Are they even in central america?

The latest one really drops the ball.

quote:

Mission Update: August 31, 2015
August 31, 2015
By Jill Duggar

Hey everyone! August has been a busy month for us and as so many of you know it has ended on a sad note for my extended family. Please do pray for our family. We are so thankful for Godís grace during difficult days.

This last month has been a bit of a whirlwind for us with a quick trip to the U.S. and back here to Central America over the weekend. When we were first invited to our friend, Michaella Bates', wedding we didn't think we were going to be able to make it. But once we realized that we needed to make a trip back to the States to do some filming for the upcoming TLC documentary, we were thrilled that the dates coincided with that of the wedding! We were able to make the stop in Tennessee on our way back here to Central America! We had to increase our class time on the front half of the week to make up for the time we would lose studying in the latter half of the week. However, it was definitely worth it when we took off for a great reunion with family and friends! It was a lovely wedding celebration! My younger sister, Joy, and her best friend, Carlin Bates, came home with us! It's been a blast having company and they've been such a great help to us while we bury ourselves in the books! I will not want them to leave after their two week visit! I love having them here for the friendship and Israel certainly loves all the extra attention!

Verbs! Verbs! ...and more verbs! LOL. This is what Spanish class has looked like for both Derick and I recently. We are enjoying our classes and are so blessed to have each other to bounce questions off of since we are taking the same classes. The way our school teaches is individualized, so we each have an instructor. This really helps us to be immersed and practice conversational Spanish everyday. It has opened up good opportunities for both of us to talk about the Bible and pray with our teachers.

Thank y'all for continuing to pray for us! We will keep the updates coming and will try to do so with more frequency so keep checking our website for more!

We are so grateful for your partnership and friendship as we work to bring many to Christ in Central America!

Half the blog is about their trip back home. Jet-setting around is not what people donate to missions for. She abandoned the mission field for a party and 2 minutes on a TLC special. That just shows a lack of commitment. Then they get back to central america and there are no heartwarming tales of saving souls, instead they've been taking Spanish classes. Wat. Yeah, you totally had to wait until you got to central america for that, there is no way to take Spanish classes in the USA on your own dime.

The Duggar 'everything is fine' instinct may be letting her down here. People want to hear about hardships, not vacations.

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BrigadierSensible posted:

How do they "minister"to people who don't speak 'Murrican?

I cannot imagine a Duggar, or one who would marry a Duggar deigning to learn Spanish, or Nepalese, or any local language.

Edit: Whoops didn't see that they were trying to learn Spanish. (And laughing about how hard and foreign it all is.)

What choice do they have? Minister to Canada? Minister to scary urban youth in godless detroit? India and parts of Africa speak english, but if they go so far they might not be able to afford to come home once a month.

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Oct 4, 2008

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The Bible posted:

In short, God is talking to everyone, but telling them all conflicting things.

What a prankster.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Raiad posted:

I don't know, doesn't seem like a safe place to take your kid.



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Oct 4, 2008

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The Bible posted:

"Christians are human and sinful just like anyone else but Jesus forgives us so we just do whatever we like while condemning others living in exactly the same manner."

The important part is that you feel bad about it. Wanting to gently caress dudes is apparently a really common thing many dudes want to do, but you should be ashamed of it. As long as you are ashamed of it you can have all the dirty bathroom hook-ups you want -- the dirtier the better really, since that makes your future 'testimony' much more compelling.

That's why Gay Pride is so offensive to them. It's supposed to be shameful and secret, not out and proud. It's supposed to be tawdry and dangerous, so gay dudes getting married, buying minivans and raising functional children undermines their whole shame spiral.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Ronwayne posted:

There are redpill incel/whatever the gently caress angry texan nerds.

How do you gently caress up that badly.

My guess: by not playing football. Should have listened to your dads and learned to play football, nerds.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Lord of Pie posted:

stone the pants wearing harlot, so speaketh Jim Bob

Pants are bad because they draw attention to the curve of the bum and sometimes camel-toe. An unbearable burden for any man who sees it. Pants under a skirt is fine though. Especially with such a short skirt like that, if not for the pants you'd be able to see her knees.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Eh, whatever the need to do to keep from becoming fat. They'd be even worse if they were all butterballs.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Otto Von Jizzmark posted:

That hot dish sounds pretty good I think I'll make it. Does it work with ground turkey?

It sounds like a lazy man's Shepherd's Pie, so it should work with whatever meat you have.

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Oct 4, 2008

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Broenheim posted:

wtf is a "good-bye room"

Looks like it is just a cutesy infantile name for a mud room. The place where everyone leaves their coats and boots.



Maneki Neko posted:

Is the only place outside of grandmas room to take a poo poo on the first floor attached to the dining room?

There is another bathroom attached to the play room. Weirdly the one next to the dining room and the second bathroom in the girls' area don't seem to have sinks.

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