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platedlizard
Aug 31, 2012

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That sort of Christian fetishizes purity and modesty in girls and it has the effect of sexualizing them in super creepy ways. On top of that they teach that women are inherently sinful and can lead men astray so it's not really the man's fault if he rapes his five year old sister etc it's really hosed up creepy poo poo that has the opposite effect of what they're going for.

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platedlizard
Aug 31, 2012

I like plates and lizards.


TFI sounds a lot more fun than the usual evangelical imo

platedlizard
Aug 31, 2012

I like plates and lizards.


Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

From Gothard institute on dealing with sexual abuse





LMAO Bill Gothard sexually harassed over 30 women and girls

platedlizard
Aug 31, 2012

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Woolie Wool posted:

Even if law enforcement tried a lot harder, cults have...ways...of preventing members from working with law enforcement, up to and including murder.

It can take decades to go after child molesting cult leaders. this trial just wrapped up in my area. The abuse was initially reported in 1997 but it took almost 20 years to prosecute because the girl's families testified against them and intimidated them. One of the victims mothers actually married the guy several years after her daughter reported the abuse. That woman was my coworker's aunt so I heard a lot about it during the trial.

platedlizard
Aug 31, 2012

I like plates and lizards.


Neukoln19 posted:

Two things

1) loving breeder poo poo bag

2) can I get a tl dr on

A) who this is

B) what happened

C) what happened since what happened happened

D) significant reactions and revelations that have occurred in the last 20 pages of this thread

Thanks god bless good night

A) josh duggar is the oldest son of the Duggars a fundie family famous for having 19 kids & a TV show. He was on the board of noted anti-LBGT hate group Family Research Council. One of their positions is that gay and trans people want to touch your child in their naughty bits.

B) as a teen he molested 4 sisters and one non-sister in their sleep & sometimes when they were awake. When they told he got sent to a family-friend's place & had to help him remodeled a home for three months. This was called therapy. He also got a stern talking-to by a cop who was another friend of his parents who later got a 56 year sentence for child porn. Later later a 61 year old women probably from their church reported to the correct authorities (Oprah) & when a real investigation took place Jim Bob stalled it until the statute of limitations ran out (3years). It all got swept under the rug until In Touch Magazine did a FOIA & got a redacted police report.

C) one of the sisters asked for the original report to be destroyed which has apparently happened although no one is fooled. Josh stepped down from his position with the hategroup. Josh apologized for making a mistake, presumably we're supposed to believe sticking his fingers in his sister's vaginas repeatedly was accidental.

D)Fundies are circling the wagons proclaiming "we're all sinners" like having a normal sex life outside of marriage is equivalent to raping a sister. Also Bill Gothard, the Duggar's cult-leader apparently sexually harassed over 30 teens & young women who worked for him.

Basically the world of fundie Evangelicals is making the Catholic Priests look tame bc at least they didn't molest children who were actually related them.

platedlizard
Aug 31, 2012

I like plates and lizards.


I like that better thanks

platedlizard
Aug 31, 2012

I like plates and lizards.


PenguinBob posted:

Gently ask her husband to stop diddling their children and confess his sin to God, lol

Actually it tells her that it should be brought to the church so that he be kicked out of the church until he repents, and also that law enforcement officers are ministers of the church whose duty is to praise the good and inflict punishment on the terrible ie that she should also go to the police and let the law deal with him.

To be fair you have to be pretty steeped in churchspeak to get all that, these guys are worse than lawyers when it comes to impenetrable language.

platedlizard
Aug 31, 2012

I like plates and lizards.


Gene Hackman Fan posted:

now hobby lobby is being caught up in this.

jesus christ, it's like a who's who of gently caress you.

Hobby Lobby won't use barcodes for inventory management because barcodes are the mark of the devil

platedlizard
Aug 31, 2012

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Top City Homo posted:

i never knew exactly how bad the fundie problem is in the US

i mean i know there are hardcore christians in the sense they follow the complete opposite of the moral teachings the bible has but i didn't know that there is literally a fascist theocratic undercurrent in the US that actively teaches children to be drones

what is the percentage of this Jack Chick like cult activity that consists of christianity?

Basically every Evangelical who doesn't describe themselves as 'progressive' is like this to varying degrees.

Just wait until you find out about the folks trying to breed the 'red calf' so it can be sacrificed at the site of the Temple in order to summon Jesus and end the world, I swear I'm not making this up.

platedlizard
Aug 31, 2012

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bumble posted:

So, wait a second. There's still something I don't understand here.

Did somebody really name their kid Jim Bob?

That's a good traditional Southern name :colbert:

platedlizard
Aug 31, 2012

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Even the Amish have like a year or three when their teenage children can go out and 'be English' ie drink and party and choose whether they want to be Amish or be English forever. These fuckers are literally more repressed than the Amish.

platedlizard
Aug 31, 2012

I like plates and lizards.


Amarcarts posted:

All those smiles look pretty fake.

It's because the only acceptable emotion is joy. Unhappiness is taken as rebellion against parents and God so it is punished until all they can do is smile.

If you're not constantly happy then you aren't being a good Witness to God's Grace.

I'm not making any of this up.

platedlizard
Aug 31, 2012

I like plates and lizards.


BrigadierSensible posted:

So the girl that rejected Josh, (surely she rejected him and not the otehr way round?), does she get ostracized for not picking a 'perfectly good bachelor boy her parents picked"? Is she somehow sinful for not aquiesing to his/her parents wants? Will no other suitors want her because she is damaged goods, or even worse 'slutty' for having dated multiple men before marriage?

Her dad broke them up after he found out Josh molested his sisters.

Before you think too well of him he did it because he lost an election and went looking for the sin in his house that made God punish him. Not, you know, to keep his daughter from marrying a child molester.

platedlizard
Aug 31, 2012

I like plates and lizards.


The little people are the most normal people on TLC

I say this with confidence without ever watching a single one of their shows.

platedlizard
Aug 31, 2012

I like plates and lizards.


Eonwe posted:

I wonder if they are on actual IRL welfare as well

The FLDS women were

platedlizard
Aug 31, 2012

I like plates and lizards.


Goobish posted:

Didn't it say somewhere that they're taught that dinosaurs were the "dragons" in the Bible? I don't know I didn't read the whole loving Bible.

Close. Leviathan=dinosaurs to these people

Fun fact, leviathan's behavior (thrashing tail) actually closely aligns with the Nile Crocodile which was a lot bigger and more wide-spread in those days. Behemoth was probably an auroch (ancestral wild cattle). Fundies of course ignore their existence and say they're proof that humans and dinosaurs lived together

Of course humans an dinosaurs DO live together because birds ARE dinosaurs and gently caress Jurassic Park for not giving them feathers but fundies like everyone else refuse to believe that

platedlizard
Aug 31, 2012

I like plates and lizards.


Top City Homo posted:

i cant believe how easy it is to start a cult

you just memorize the bible and focus an obscure passage disproportionally outside its actual relevance and make huge logical leaps in a loud certain voice

the key is to be really extreme about your views basically the more certain you are the more followers you gather

now keep in mind that the followers are a trickle but you are casting a wide enough net to catch as many people as you can

then you start stratification

in cults its important to stratify and filter

you gotta filter out as many people as possible and cast another net

finally after enough schisms you will have a core of true believers

about 100 people

this is your economic base to milk for money, rape, abuse, and treat as chattel

congrats on your new cult

grow it in size and try really hard to segment it and isolate it

make sure you keep the women to yourself and the men are sent to paramilitary brainwashing camps

keep it going and then move the whole cult to a small rural state and try to take over local politics

you are soon on your way to success

god bless

There was a cult near me that was basically the Bible, Sex, Drugs, and Raping Little Girls cult.

Except for the last bit it sounded pretty cool.

platedlizard
Aug 31, 2012

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The North Clackamas Bible Community

They had a compound in Happy Valley, Oregon. According to family members of the cult members I know the pastor did a lot of drugs with the women and girls he was screwing.

platedlizard
Aug 31, 2012

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Code Jockey posted:

Wait poverty in the quiverfull groups?

So much for god providing lmao

Most quiverfull families are poor as poo poo because even on a decent salary it's really difficult to support a family of ten.

platedlizard
Aug 31, 2012

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mdm posted:

What exactly did the Clintons do worse? Is this some kind of bizarre conspiracy poo poo like thinking they murdered Vince Foster or what

There was a rape accusation when he was a governor that was never substantiated. Personally I'm of the opinion that he sticks his dick in crazy.

None of the women he's been with have been related to him, well, no more than average for Arkansas anyway

platedlizard
Aug 31, 2012

I like plates and lizards.


Safari has a private browsing mode lol

platedlizard
Aug 31, 2012

I like plates and lizards.


I'm glad this thread has reached the erotic fan fiction stage.

platedlizard
Aug 31, 2012

I like plates and lizards.


Jonny 290 posted:

BTW they did the lovely "wait for the kids to leave the house" thing. youngest one just turned 18, theyve been publicly miserable for years tho

If that's the worst thing they've done to their kids they're loving angels compared to their fellow reality TV families.

platedlizard
Aug 31, 2012

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The Bible's pretty ok with incest

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platedlizard
Aug 31, 2012

I like plates and lizards.


Xlorp posted:

In the spirit of scientific inquiry, exactly who could you gently caress if you were alone on desert island? The essence of that situational trope is the absence of companionship.

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