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I'm not giving Josh a pass on what he did, but can you imagine how awful being a 14 year Duggar boy must be? All you can do is Christian Date, which means side-hugs only. And since you're home-schooled the only ladies you see are probably your sisters. And you can't even whack off in the bathroom without one of your 14 siblings knocking on the door saying, "WHY IS THE DOOR LOCKED, JOSH! MOM, JOSH LOCKED THE BATHROOM DOOR AGAIN!"
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Wanamingo posted:Some good conspiracy theorizing going on over there The electronic equipment was probably for the church. It not for multimedia church services, then for promoting the group. The Duggars were part of an overall movement so they'd be trying to solicit donations and build membership roles. And nothing makes you look more respectable than some nice swipe transitions, a good Creed song in the background, and maybe a filter or two.
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May 23, 2015 13:18
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Broenheim posted:man i wish i was a famous christian. i could get away with anything just by not saying anything for a couple of years (just long enough not to get convicted) and then saying "yeah i did this but i said im sorry and i got some vague punishments that totally worked and make me not do it again." Fortunately it doesn't look like he got away with anything. Let's say authorities did get involved back in 2003, it's not like he'd done jailtime - he was a minor. Heck, it might have worked out better for the Duggars. It'd just be 18 Kids and Counting, or "look at how good we reformed young Josh, let us fix your perverts kids." Except for the damage done to the victims, we should be praising Jesus this came public 12 years later. Suddenly it's not a family dealing with disappointment and drama beyond their control; now it's a decade long cover-up by a family who very loudly warned us against gays abusing children. Suddenly their show and all its spinoff shows are kaput. Just like my one really wants to watch the Cosby show or 7th Heaven anymore, Duggars are media poison. This wouldn't have happened had Josh gotten even a smidge of punishment 12 years ago.
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May 25, 2015 04:13
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Did anyone notice that Rim Job does not have eyebrows? 
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May 29, 2015 01:39
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Not cancelled yet and is being done by Liberty "University" So it's kind of like a convention of all the women Josh Duggar has been intimate with? 3 out of the 4 at least.
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May 29, 2015 01:48
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BrigadierSensible posted:I have 2 questions about the Quiverfulls, and associated fundies. both are yucky. As already mentioned, sex within the relm of marriage is fine. Dating is awkward because they're doing Christian Dating, which is heavily chaperoned and doesn't allow kissing before marriage. But it's not arranged, although your pool of available suitors is limited. And if you want to break it off, I'm sure you'll get no more pressure than any other child whose parents take an unhealthy interest in your sex life. Jill Duggar actually met her husband in Napal where he was doing missionary work. And yes, Jim Bob was with her the whole time (they got matching native outfits).
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May 29, 2015 04:06
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Crusty Nutsack posted:No, her husband was in crazy jim bob's bible study group or something, and daddy set them up. Then he and jill skyped for a while about bible poo poo, and then jim bob took her to meet him in Nepal where he was doing missionary work. So it was still daddy that arranged the whole thing. Well, yeah. There has to be some family connection because they only ever hang out with other like-minded families (hence the limited pool of suitors). What I'm getting at, is no matter how backwards the process - it isn't an arranged marriage and the girls have a choice, in as much their limited exposure offers. I'm sure at least one Duggar would love a heavily muscled man with skin like polished ebony, but Michelle will never get to realize that fantasy because the only black guy she ever sees is Herman Cain. Nessa posted:My bet is on Michelle being able to pump out 1 or 2 more babies (likely with physical or mental disabilities) before she eventually dies of a pregnancy complication, leaving her oldest unwed daughters to become full time moms instead of part-time moms. I thought they were done after this last one? If only because they're out of all the good J names and not even Jim Bob wants a boy named Jay-Z. Krispy Wafer fucked around with this message at 05:39 on May 29, 2015 |
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:I support them going to Australia as planned. Use the country for its original purpose imo Killing aborigines?
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:The difference here is literally 'religion'. The difference is a lot more than that. She rekindled a relationship with the man who spent 8 years in jail for forcing her ten year old daughter to give oral sex. And she did all this despite objections by the now-grown daughter he raped. Josh Duggar did some terrible poo poo, but the fact he was 14 in a loving terrible home environment for a 14 year old boy does come into play here. I think we can say he did some horrible stuff while at the same time saying, "Those people over there? They were worse."
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Do It Once Right posted:This is harder to pin down, because the Duggars don't like to share the details of how much government welfare they rely on. I can't imagine them getting any government aid. The family makes about 100k per episode and then there's Jim Bob's dealerships and book deals and an exclusive cover deal with People magazine. What they do get are income tax credits other high earners have phased out of due to the sheer size of their family. They also probably hid assets behind their church. Like any money donated to them would have to be declared as income unless the check was made payable to the Church of Jimothy Roberts. Maybe they relied on welfare early on, but using the year Jim Bob ran for Senate and Josh figured out girls don't pee out of their vaginas as our baseline, they'd have to had made less than 70k to be below the poverty line. That year, Jim Bob had a personal net worth of 250k. Obligatory Toast posted:They're not supposed to be getting government aid anyways, and I even wonder if they have insurance, because fertility treatments aren't loving cheap and neither are the consultations. And they've probably burned through most sensible fertility doctors in the state, considering Michelle has had a history of preeclampsia. Wouldn't Duggar clients be awesome testimonials for a fertility clinic? You could hang banners in your office with the kids you helped convinced like High School championship pennants. They probably get their Clomid and semen centrifuged for free.
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thegalagakid posted:may as well keep on loving at this point though Their kids are going to be jacked up though.
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Jun 3, 2015 13:58
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bitcoin bastard posted:hahahaah how much you wanna bet that 'removing safari' was just deleting it from the home screen Yeah, you can't remove Safari from an iPhone. She just put it in a folder called Nike. Alan Smithee posted:Maybe they are old fashioned and finding mag drops from the porn fairy. Can you imagine what a magical and whimsical world they just live in If anyplace still has woods porn its Arkansas.
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There's this idea that the Duggars might somehow bounce back from this, but I'm pretty sure these interviews will be the last time a Duggar gets paid to appear on a nationwide show. Yes, there are some hardcore fans who plead via Facebook for their Jim Bob, but most people, even right-wing Christian Republican people, want nothing to do with this. I think a lot of people in this thread over-estimate Duggar influence. Sure, they get their pictures taken with GOP candidates, but the Duggars are also trying to get their pictures taken with those candidates because it makes them look like kingmakers or some poo poo. Bill Clinton got his picture taken with Russian prostitutes at an event. Anyone half-way important has a line of people waiting to take selfies at these events. Yet for all their influence, no national candidate has won poo poo with Duggar support and their statewide influence is meh. They barely got an anti-discrimination law overturned in their own hillbilly backyard. These people can't disappear fast enough.
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Broken Machine posted:no those are CDC stats for sexual violence, the US has one of the highest rates of sexual abuse in the world, especially child abuse I mean, heck - the U.S. has 20x more reported rapes than India. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics Just saying, it happens everywhere, probably at similar levels. Except for South Africa. Holy poo poo South Africa.  I wonder if Belgium and the U.S. pass each other in the bar with popped collars all like, "sup, bro".
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Melmac posted:and They're giving the story the Big Lie treatment. A propaganda technique perfected by the Third Reich and since used many times by both Republicans and Democrats. She knows it's a lie. The Duggar know it's a lie. But you repeat it often enough and your supporters will defend your lie until they are blue in the face. The problem is, this narrative doesn't fix the problem. Companies don't care if the police report was leaked or not, they aren't going to advertise on the show anymore. Maybe Jim Bob is trying to retreat as a 'victim' so there's a slim chance he can keep his local influence and maybe one day get another show (190 Grandkids & Counting). I wonder if the police chief has a slander case against the Duggars. They've gone on national TV saying she broke the law, which can be very harmful to her reputation and future employment opportunities. I know she's retired, but if she ever wanted to get another job and the interviewer Googled her name, it'd be full of venomous accusations about illegal wrongdoing.
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SpeedGem posted:Vetting process? lol. I think it's more like basic cable reality shows attract the worst kinds of people. Most well adjusted people wouldn't put their families through a network reality show. Think what kind of person you have to be to do it for basic cable money. Either you have an agenda jimbob or you're just hosed in the head jimbob.
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etalian posted:A show in which everyone is nice and polite to each other sure would interesting You just described the Duggars (pre-2015 season). The 'horrible families do reality TV' hypothesis still passing peer review. Krispy Wafer fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Jun 8, 2015 |
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Do It Once Right posted:Mike Huckabee subtly downplaying his relationship with the Duggars. Now now, Huckabee cycles his endorsements so it's completely normal for supporter faces to be replaced at regular intervals. Why, here comes that ASPCA endorsement right now. Davey sure does get tears in his eyes every time that Sarah Mclachlan song comes on.
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Is it odd that I find the oldest daughter's situation worse than the younger molested ones? It's one thing to get married at 18 and go straight from your father's house to your husband's. It's all kinds of stupid, but that's what some women want. But to be 24 and chained to your mother's ever prolapsing uterus sounds more miserable than all the sweaty Joshes waking you up again in the middle of the night. She's probably been waiting for her sisters to get old enough to help with the babies, but they got the gently caress out as quickly as possible. Now if mom has baby number 20, the oldest sister is going to be stuck raising stupid loving Jimmy Dean Duggar.
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Yeah, that doesn't sound like a slanted poll at all. What does 'higher opinion' even mean? Depending on how they phrased the question they could say people have a higher opinion of rape than murder and well, it'd be true. It doesn't prove that Republicans like the Duggars. Just that they really loving hate Obama.
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Mr. Pumroy posted:duggars have connections and on top of that tere's good ol medieval marriage. so many duggaR chillun married into the conservative social network who'll be funneling dosh to their gross parents until death. you can't stop the infestation. we will all become jim bob The Duggars are toast. They were were only a national influence because of the show. They might still carry some weight in Arkansas, but that's it. I'm sure there's some other repressive, yet quaint family with no recorded instances of incest that Fundies can hitch their wagons to instead. I sincerely hope at every big family dinner, with the two eldest male Duggars sitting at the head of the table, Jim Bob repeatedly tells Josh to just go gently caress himself. "Hey Josh, can you pass me the potatoes and go gently caress yourself, thanks." "sure, dad."
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canyoneer posted:That show would be the best. It would be so hard to keep track of the characters because half the people in the house during filming would be friends, neighbors and cousins who don't even live there. Boy, that driveway is going to be FULL of cars.
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The Bible posted:Then who did Cain marry after he was kicked out into foreign lands? Where did all those people come from? His younger brothers and sisters that Adam and Eve had after Cain and Able. The same siblings who inexplicably moved away, had children of their own, and built cities while Cain and Able stayed behind. When everyone has a lifespan of 900+ years it's easier to work out the logic. Cain could have married a younger sister or even a niece over the hill in the land of Nod. The thing is, as far as I can tell people still aged mostly the same. You weren't a child for 100 years - yet Cain apparently had no interest in raising a family of his own until after he killed his brother. And none of the other kids stayed with Adam and Eve, not even to form a little village. So essentially Cain and Able were really immature man-children who never left home. 
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Pvt.Scott posted:The Jews were created separate from the Gentiles in order to provide an example of holiness to the world. Cain simply went and hosed some godless heathens. But Godless heathens that never actually killed anyone, since Cain was supposed to represent the first murderer. Thereby separating morality from religion Then there were the divine beings that were wandering around and having demigod children. The Old Testament was so awesome with it's incest and plagues and sacrificing. I'm going to wager Jim Bob skips the Lott stories at the evening Bible study, though.
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The White Dragon posted:isn't this a misinterpretation but modern religious fanatics are too stupid to realize that a "year" by early biblical definition is actually a single lunar cycle I always figured it was because record keeping wasn't great and they didn't have enough begots and begats to fill in all 4k years so suddenly everyone lived really really long times. I've heard a theory that all the water from Noah's flood was from the protective layer that surrounded the Earth after it's creation. With that layer gone, harmful rays from the sun shortened our lifespans to the more reasonable 120 years. I have no idea when 120 years was settled upon, but it is a little interesting to note cell reproduction and degeneration limits puts the maximum human lifespan at around 125 years.
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They've got money. It sounds like they're petitioning for church donations. The Duggars run their own ministry and I'm going to guess if you arranged the payroll in alphabetical order there'd be a fuckton of D names. They just don't want to get real jobs. And hey, the kind of prayer that prays gay away doesn't come cheap.
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The Bible posted:God sets it as a hard limit in Genesis 6:3. If by "now that we have people living longer than that" you mean one person. Then yes, Bible Apologists are really worried about that particular verse. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_verified_oldest_people The Bible is full of some really terrible explanations for a lot of things, but they actually managed to inexplicably nail the maximum human lifespan due to cell reproduction and degradation.
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Three Olives posted:Where it came out he molested his sister immediately mounds of loony evangelicals came up to defend him but this time I haven't seen anything. Do they think trying to cheat on his wife is worse than molesting children or did they just decide gently caress it, fool me once.. No one's going to come out to defend him this time. Heck, most of his defenders weren't even defending him - they just didn't want to lose their recommended daily allowance of vitamin Jim and Bob.
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Aug 20, 2015 03:06
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My guess is he never publicly acknowledges the Ashley Madison leak. It's not like he has a show or position on some morality council to resign from. Jared's indictment took most of the attention yesterday and there's always a chance someone more notable than Josh will appear on the Ashley Madison rolls. As for his wife, what the gently caress is she going to do. All of the Duggar money is in Jim Bob's pocket, so there's no divorce settlement that's going to support her. She could go out and get a job, but if her parents are anything like Jim Bob and Michelle, she probably has a home school GED.
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What the gently caress does a Satan fortress in your heart even mean? That's not Lucifer sitting on your shoulder and whispering in your ear. His first draft was literally, "I am a minion of the Dark Lord." Maybe the 'heart' part separates this from the mind. Because if I was a God-loving Christian, I'd think twice about taking advice from someone so full of Satan he's got moats, parapets, and maybe a tower or two dedicated to the Fallen Angel. Perhaps he's trying to say, "it's okay guys, all that talk about hating people different than you - that's God's word from my M-I-N-D! Satan was only in charge of this DC!"
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This week's People magazine is all about the Duggars and their struggles and the scandals with Josh and how he isn't hanging with the family right now because every time he's photographed with Jim Bob it just drudges up more controversy. The issue went to print before the Ashley Madison leak. So he was toxic to his own family even before this new poo poo went public.
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Indubitable Leg posted:Kirk's too obsessively devoted to cheat. Hell he won't kiss an actress in any movie he does. It's always his wife in a wig and/or silhouetted. I think he converted in his teens, so he presumably had a relatively normal childhood (for a child TV star). I'm sure there's plenty of guilt and shame in the Cameron household, but nothing like the repressed poo poo the Duggars manage.
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Affe mk2 posted:"heh, maybe it's the goons that are the hosed up ones Just saying, it's one thing to find joy in the downfall of a mean person or family. Something entirely different to repeatedly speculate how much the father Jim Bob was abusing the girls or whether there was a quiverfull (how many ounces is that) of cum involved. At some point it gees beyond mocking and turns into fantasies.
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Geoj posted:If he was unrepentant about it, sure, but I think the rubes that follow them wouldn't bat an eye at Josh being caught every other month sucking random guys' dicks at the local adult movie theater while high on ecstasy as long as he did the song and dance of apologizing, doing a marathon prayer session or three and/or going off to christian reparative therapy camp for a few weeks. I don't know if you're giving them too much credit or not enough, but fundies will most definitely stop following people who get their hands caught in the cookie jar. Baker lost his flock, Haggart is a footnote now, and Swaggart got defrocked. Sure, these guys still have some followers, but it's a fraction of their peak audiences.
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Melmac posted:Gotta love how she was willing to look past his child rapping but adultery crossed the line. She knew about the molestation. She had 12 years to rationalize it in whatever way she could. It sounds like Josh didn't warn anyone about the Ashley Madison accounts, even though he knew it was going to go public. So his family is going to respond like he betrayed them.
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I noticed 7th Heaven is back on the air again. That was pulled after Stephen Collins was outed as a molester. So yeah, apparently it takes about six months for people to forget you diddled kids. We can look forward to watching Cosby Show next Spring. Acne Rain posted:quick look at the comments, i imagine she's policing that section pretty hard This comment was a reply to a guy who made a passing reference to Josh's opposition to gay marriage while cheating on his marriage: Patty K said posted:Ben, this is not the place to defend a different sin, even if it is your personal favorite. I guess that's one way to call someone gay. It's your favorite sin.
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Jack Gladney posted:But it feels gross to hear his voice and think about how the child-friendly media he made was just a front for his constant predations. That's a little different from liking Chinatown or whatever. Then again, there's no indications he ever preyed on children or men. So I think we're cool with enjoying Picture Pages and Fat Albert.
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