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Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound
Welcome earthlings to the Awful Book of the Month!
In this thread, we choose one work of literature absolute crap and read/discuss it over a month. If you have any suggestions of books, choose something that will be appreciated by many people, and has many avenues of discussion. We'd also appreciate if it were a work of literature complete drivel that is easily located from a local library or book shop, as opposed to ordering something second hand off the internet and missing out on a week's worth of reading. Better yet, books available on e-readers.

Resources:

Project Gutenberg - http://www.gutenberg.org

- A database of over 17000 books available online. If you can suggest books from here, that'd be the best.

SparkNotes - http://www.sparknotes.com/

- A very helpful Cliffnotes-esque site, but much better, in my opinion. If you happen to come in late and need to catch-up, you can get great character/chapter/plot summaries here.

:siren: For recommendations on future material, suggestions on how to improve the club, or just a general rant, feel free to PM me. :siren:

Past Books of the Month
2011:
January: John Keats, Endymion
Febuary/March: Miguel Cervantes, Don Quixote
April: Laurell K. Hamilton, Obsidian Butterfly
May: Richard A. Knaak - Diablo #1: Legacy of Blood
June: Pamela Britton - On The Move
July: Raymond Chandler - The Big Sleep
August: Louis L'Amour - Bendigo Shafter
September: Ian Fleming - Moonraker
October: Ray Bradbury - Something Wicked This Way Comes
November: John Ringo - Ghost
December: James Branch Cabell - Jurgen


2012:
January: G.K. Chesterton - The Man Who Was Thursday
Febuary: M. Somerset Maugham - Of Human Bondage
March: Joseph Heller - Catch-22
April: Zack Parsons - Liminal States
May: Haruki Murakami - Norwegian Wood
June: James Joyce - Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man
July: William S. Burroughs - Naked Lunch
August: William Faulkner - The Sound & The Fury
September/October: Leo Tolstoy - War & Peace
November: David Mitchell - Cloud Atlas
December: Kurt Vonnegut - Mother Night

2013
January: Walter M. Miller - A Canticle for Liebowitz
Febuary: Alfred Bester - The Stars My Destination
March: Kazuo Ishiguro - Remains Of The Day
April: Don Delillo - White Noise
May: Anton LeVey - The Satanic Bible
June/July: Susanna Clarke - Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell
August: Michael Swanwick - Stations of the Tide
September: John Wyndham - Day of the Triffids
October: Shirley Jackson - The Haunting of Hill House
November: Iain Banks - The Wasp Factory
December: Roderick Thorp - Nothing Lasts Forever

2014:
January: Ursula K. LeGuin - The Left Hand of Darkness
February: Mikhail Bulgalov - Master & Margarita
March: Richard P. Feynman -- Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman!
April: James Joyce -- Dubliners
May: Gabriel Garcia Marquez -- 100 Years of Solitude
June: Howard Zinn -- A People's History of the United States
July: Mary Renault -- The Last of the Wine
August: Barbara Tuchtman -- The Guns of August
September: Jane Austen -- Pride and Prejudice
October: Roger Zelazny -- A Night in the Lonesome October
November: John Gardner -- Grendel
December: Christopher Moore -- The Stupidest Angel

2015:
January: Italo Calvino -- Invisible Cities
February: Karl Ove Knausgaard -- My Struggle: Book 1.
March: Knut Hamsun -- Hunger
April: Liu Cixin -- 三体 ( The Three-Body Problem)
May: John Steinbeck -- Cannery Row

Current:

Truman Capote -- In Cold Blood

quote:

In Cold Blood is a non-fiction book first published in 1966, written by American author Truman Capote; it details the 1959 murders of Herbert Clutter, a farmer from Holcomb, Kansas, his wife, and two of their four children.

When Capote learned of the quadruple murder, before the killers were captured, he decided to travel to Kansas and write about the crime. He was accompanied by his childhood friend and fellow author Harper Lee, and together they interviewed local residents and investigators assigned to the case and took thousands of pages of notes. The killers, Richard "Dick" Hickock and Perry Smith, were arrested six weeks after the murders, and Capote ultimately spent six years working on the book.

The book is the second biggest selling true crime book in publishing history, behind Vincent Bugliosi's 1974 book Helter Skelter on the Manson murders.

Some critics consider Capote's work the original non-fiction novel, although other writers had already explored the genre, such as Rodolfo Walsh in Operación Masacre (1957). The book examines the complex psychological relationship between two parolees who together commit a mass murder. Capote's book also explores the lives of the victims and the effect of the crime on the community in which they lived. In Cold Blood is regarded by critics as a pioneering work of the true crime genre, though Capote was disappointed that the book failed to win the Pulitzer Prize.[1]

Parts of the book, including important details, differ from the real events.[2]


About the Author

quote:

Truman Streckfus Persons (September 30, 1924 – August 25, 1984), known as Truman Capote (/ˈtruːmən kəˈpoʊtiː/[1]), was an American author, screenwriter, playwright, actor, many of whose short stories, novels, plays, and nonfiction are recognized literary classics, including the novella Breakfast at Tiffany's (1958) and the true crime novel In Cold Blood (1966), which he labeled a "nonfiction novel". At least 20 films and television dramas have been produced of Capote novels, stories, and plays.

Capote rose above a childhood troubled by divorce, a long absence from his mother, and multiple migrations. He had discovered his calling as a writer by the age of 11, and for the rest of his childhood he honed his writing ability. Capote began his professional career writing short stories. The critical success of one story, "Miriam" (1945), attracted the attention of Random House publisher Bennett Cerf, and resulted in a contract to write the novel Other Voices, Other Rooms (1948). Capote earned the most fame with In Cold Blood, a journalistic work about the murder of a Kansas farm family in their home. Capote spent four years writing the book aided by his lifelong friend Harper Lee, who wrote To Kill a Mockingbird (1960).[2]


Discussion, Questions & Themes:

quote:

Tom Wolfe wrote in his essay "Pornoviolence": "The book is neither a who-done-it nor a will-they-be-caught, since the answers to both questions are known from the outset ... Instead, the book's suspense is based largely on a totally new idea in detective stories: the promise of gory details, and the withholding of them until the end."[16]

Despite the book's billing as a factual "True Crime" account, critics have challenged its authenticity, arguing that Capote changed facts to suit the story, added scenes which had never occurred, and re-created dialogue.[2][17]

quote:

"I recognized it as a work of art, but I know fakery when I see it," Olsen says. "Capote completely fabricated quotes and whole scenes ... The book made something like $6 million in 1960s money, and nobody wanted to discuss anything wrong with a moneymaker like that in the publishing business." Nobody except Olsen and a few others. His criticisms were quoted in Esquire, to which Capote replied, "Jack Olsen is just jealous."


Pacing


References and Further Reading



Final Note:

If you have any suggestions to change, improve or assess the book club generally, please PM or email me -- i.e., keep it out of this thread -- at least until into the last five days of the month, just so we don't derail discussion of the current book with meta-discussion. I do want to hear new ideas though, seriously, so please do actually PM or email me or whatever, or if you can't do either of those things, just hold that thought till the last five days of the month before posting it in this thread. Thanks, and I hope everyone enjoys the book!

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Hieronymous Alloy
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Morbid Hound
True controversy: how much of this book did Harper Lee write?

quote:

Throughout the publication and promotion of Truman Capote's In Cold Blood, Capote admitted his childhood friend, Harper Lee, accompanied him to Kansas as his research assistant, but he never explained in detail what she did to assist him other than to say she accompanied him on interviews. However, once the book was published, her name never appeared in the acknowledgement page of the book. Capote allowed people to believe that Lee was only in Kansas with him two months and she never returned during the five years he was there to conduct research. It is true that Lee was in Kansas the first few months with Capote; however, she returned to assist him with research at Hickock's and Smith's arraignment, and she returned to Kansas many other times. However, Capote never revealed this information or Lee's major role in the research for In Cold Blood. It was not until the publication of Charles Shields' unauthorized biography of Lee, Mockingbird (2006), the world began to understand Lee's research conducted for In Cold Blood. Shields briefly showed several passages of Lee's notes in one chapter, "See N.L.'s Notes." However, what Shields revealed was only a small part of Lee contributions. By conducting archival research at the New York Public Library and the Library of Congress, and by conducting interviews with people who knew Capote and Lee, I have discovered Lee's exact contributions to Capote's research.
By examining Lee's and Capote's research notes, and by juxtaposing both of the writers' notes, one can see that Lee conducted a majority of the interviews with the townspeople, while Capote focused primarily on Smith and Hickock. This dissertation explores both writers' research note and shows what notes Lee recorded were used in Capote's published book. Their notes not only reveal what research they conducted, but also reveal their personalities and show that the two had major creative differences. This dissertation also suggests possible theories as to why Capote did not acknowledge Lee, because he suffered from narcissism. Because Capote did not acknowledge Lee properly, I suggest that this is one reason Lee stopped writing.

https://dspace.iup.edu/handle/2069/757

I always hear people trying to claim that Capote wrote To Kill a Mockingbird, but the reverse has always seemed more likely to me. Maybe that'll change after I've read some more Capote.

Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Jun 3, 2015

Walh Hara
May 11, 2012
Okay, I'll try to read this book this month, should be good!

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound
I'm having a harder time getting into this than I had to expected just because of the constant sense of impending doom. I had thought it would follow more of a whodunit model.

Walh Hara
May 11, 2012

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

I'm having a harder time getting into this than I had to expected just because of the constant sense of impending doom. I had thought it would follow more of a whodunit model.

I ended up finishing this yesterday.

Definitely not what I was expecting. I had heard beforehand that it was not a whodunit, but I was surprised by how few mysteries there were and how they were handled. There were some at the start, i.e. I wonder about why they did it, how the police would figure it out, why Mr Clutter was so anxious (started smoking) the weeks beforehand, what the deal is with the insurance he got the day he was murdered, etc. But either they were answered quickly (with rather lame answers) or ignored completely. I guess that's just the result of writing about something that really happened, as real life does not always give all answers nor interesting answers.

What I liked about this book was how it gives the reader some big questions to contemplate, like "do horrible criminals who are clearly guilty still deserve a fair trial?" and "is the dead penalty a fair punishment in some cases?". I'm still thinking about these. The attention given to the psychology and childhood of the murders was great as well, but maybe a bit too much somehow?

Josef K. Sourdust
Jul 16, 2014

"To be quite frank, Platinum sucks at making games. Vanquish was terrible and Metal Gear Rising: Revengance was so boring it put me to sleep."

Oh, hey Book of the Month. I haven't read ICB for a few years but I remember a bit. agree that the whodunit aspect is fairly low down on Capote's priorities. I guess because almost everyone who read it (especially at the time) already knew who did it and the fact that they were captured, tried and executed. I guess we have to factor in that readers knew the basic outline already. I read something interesting about how a lot of pleasure in reading isn't not knowing what will happen in a story but knowing roughly what will happen but not how or why it will happen. It is knowing the what already but discovering the how and why aspects that are key to enjoying stories. That is why we re-read and why we read different narratives of the same events, different biographies of the same person etc. I feel like pointing this out every time a goon complains on the Stephen King thread that he uses foreshadowing too much. Maybe he does but that kind of misses the point.

I didn't find the procedural/evidence stuff that gripping. Is that because a) Capote does it badly, b) I am not experienced in reading/don't enjoy crime books (it isn't what I normally read) or c) because that stuff already leads to known perpetrators and known capture, hence it lacks suspense?

Overall, I would recommend this title even if you are not a fan of Capote or crime novels. I enjoyed it. The film Capote is also a definite must-watch.

Walh Hara
May 11, 2012

Josef K. Sourdust posted:

Oh, hey Book of the Month. I haven't read ICB for a few years but I remember a bit. agree that the whodunit aspect is fairly low down on Capote's priorities. I guess because almost everyone who read it (especially at the time) already knew who did it and the fact that they were captured, tried and executed. I guess we have to factor in that readers knew the basic outline already. I read something interesting about how a lot of pleasure in reading isn't not knowing what will happen in a story but knowing roughly what will happen but not how or why it will happen. It is knowing the what already but discovering the how and why aspects that are key to enjoying stories. That is why we re-read and why we read different narratives of the same events, different biographies of the same person etc. I feel like pointing this out every time a goon complains on the Stephen King thread that he uses foreshadowing too much. Maybe he does but that kind of misses the point.

I didn't find the procedural/evidence stuff that gripping. Is that because a) Capote does it badly, b) I am not experienced in reading/don't enjoy crime books (it isn't what I normally read) or c) because that stuff already leads to known perpetrators and known capture, hence it lacks suspense?

Overall, I would recommend this title even if you are not a fan of Capote or crime novels. I enjoyed it. The film Capote is also a definite must-watch.

Ah that explains something, I didn't realize Capote assumes knowledge about the case already (I had never heard about it before). You don't have to know the case at all to understand or like the book, but it seems he could have (would have?) written it differently if he hadn't expected the readers to know about the case before.

I actually agree the procedural/evidence stuff isn't that gripping by itself (there certainly is no suspense), I just think he did a good job of making the readers think about the ethics of denying a fair trial to people and the right or wrong of dead punishment. I always considered myself to be against the death punishment, but while reading the book I was somehow happy when they got it which made me feel like a huge hypocrite. It's an interesting book in that sense.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound
suggestions for next month?

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep
Picked this up last week and I'm enjoying it a lot so far. The description of the community's shock in the aftermath is really heartbreaking. :(

What kind of books do we nominate for BOTM? Literature, genre books, histories?

Josef K. Sourdust
Jul 16, 2014

"To be quite frank, Platinum sucks at making games. Vanquish was terrible and Metal Gear Rising: Revengance was so boring it put me to sleep."

Walh Hara posted:

Ah that explains something, I didn't realize Capote assumes knowledge about the case already (I had never heard about it before). You don't have to know the case at all to understand or like the book, but it seems he could have (would have?) written it differently if he hadn't expected the readers to know about the case before.

It was all over the news of the time because it was such a sensational murder of an entire family for apparently what was a minor burglary. That was why Capote went out there. I think he was living in NYC at the time and wasn't a regular stringer. He was deliberately searching out a dramatic story for an innovatory "factual novel" and the newspaper reports caught his eye. Every turn of the case was covered in the press, as were the trials and executions. It would be like someone writing about the SImpson-Goldman murders in 2000.

Hieronymous Alloy
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Morbid Hound

HIJK posted:

Picked this up last week and I'm enjoying it a lot so far. The description of the community's shock in the aftermath is really heartbreaking. :(

What kind of books do we nominate for BOTM? Literature, genre books, histories?

Anything you think we might be able get more than ten people to read is the standard I'm using lately. Fiction, nonfiction, literature, whatever, but participation is always the challenge.

On the other hand, I don't want pure pulp either, just because the forum is already full of it.

So, not Warhammer novels. But not Finnegan's Wake either. Something in between.

Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Jun 24, 2015

Walh Hara
May 11, 2012
I just read Disgrace by Coetzee based on recommendations in the loving child thread, it was pretty good, might be worth a consideration.

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Morbid Hound
How about Battle Cry of Freedom? http://www.amazon.com/Battle-Cry-Freedom-The-Civil/dp/0195038630

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