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ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



I don't listen to hip hop very much but I'm totally open to it. Maybe this will be interesting!

I _might_ post indie rock videos too

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ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



So, like, is this DOA or what

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ_CU4ZLp6M

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



Trayvon Martin, I'm never missing my target.

##vote Dr. Hurt

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



Hal, I challenge you to a rap battle. You choose the stakes.

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



It's not beautiful that you claimed VT out of the gate, either.

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



Pinterest Mom posted:

i expect better from you diq

Claiming VT is a weak move. Since you're doing it to avoid a nk ostensibly (that's the only reason to ever do that) you could still easily have a role, making it pointless and something more advantageous to do as scum than town.

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



It doesn't. It sounds like you did something that looks like something but actually isn't. Who benefits from that kind of move, usually?

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



That explains my Wakka Flocka Flame flavor and town alignment.

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



Well, I'm sick of people doing it. It clutters things up and there are ways that are more fun in jumpstarting a game (which this didn't do either you royal butt). Don't claim anything instead W_W

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



Ya its a common thing and I hate it

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



Chic Trombone posted:

I'm w/ Diq on this one, all this D1 claiming I've seen recently is offputting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd-YIzRISY0

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



Propaganda Machine posted:

holy poo poo

methinks the lady doth protest too much

like, over here i thought claiming vt was basically confirming receipt of role pm, but what do i know i guess.

hmm.

You may have quoted a post that has nothing to do with your wishy washy nonvote. That's interesting.

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



Just the opposite, actually. I've also been awake for about 36 hours. Some people are just born better >:']

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



I've always felt this way, perhaps today I just have less patience than usual for things that irritate me?

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



I'm not voting for him, am I?

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



Explain your thoughts more coherently please.

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



Ah, let me rephrase for you: Your point is trash as it stands so I'd like to see you elaborate, point to examples, tell the thread at large what is scummy about what I've done, etc. It's not acceptable to plop a vote down with reasoning that poor. I am sorry if you thought otherwise.

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



Yeah...##vote Ghastly Gangsta

Guy is forcing this whole shebang. Looks like he's dodging me because he can't do what I asked.

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



Rofl, everyone is voting for me

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



Roydrowsy posted:

As others have said, this is a really stupid thing to do. If you're telling the truth, the statement offers town no benefit. The only person who has anything to gain from it would be you, which means you aren't playing for town, you are playing for yourself. I'm thinking most scum players wouldn't go this route, so you're more or less a liability. Think about your fellow members of town.


I think Guisseppe Pizzapie stands out the most to me. He comes in and makes a huge detail about Pinterest Mom. An excessive amount of fuss really. If it was such a compelling thing to talk about, it might be worth a vote that early on. It is weird when people don't vote with their convictions. Then, as you try to back away from all the attention you've drawn to yourself, you're just bringing more attention.

I don't think Ghastly Gangsta is forcing anything, and trying to deflect doesn't seem to be working that well.

##vote GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE

It might have been awhile since I've played, but its weird for somebody to be this spastic right out the gate. Maybe you need a nap, and you can dig yourself out of this hole when you wake up.

Bad post, compadre. You're completely riding on the back of things other people said and did the classic faux +1 to content thing that scum tend to do. You're also framing this argument from an emotional perspective, basically saying without saying it that you find my mannerisms irritating rather than finding me scummy. ##vote RoyDrowsy

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



Propaganda Machine posted:

jfc

claiming vt means you got the loving role pm

like i totally agree and ##vote GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE but this is an asinine non argument.

let's make fun of pm for being canadian.

This vote is actually WORSE though, wow, you're dumb

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



BottleKnight posted:

This is a bad post. A very lovely attempt to discredit a vote on you, with no alignment calls, which you clearly have only posted as a setup for an OMGUS later on.

You're not trying to scum hunt, you're just trying to push heat off you in the easiest way you could find.

I'm sorry if you're irritable but you normally are very cool-headed so something is wrong.

##vote diqnol

Bwuhh??

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



IS THIS BIZARRO MAFIA?

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



GUISSEPPE PIZZAPIE posted:

Bad post, compadre. You're completely riding on the back of things other people said and did the classic faux +1 to content thing that scum tend to do. You're also framing this argument from an emotional perspective, basically saying without saying it that you find my mannerisms irritating rather than finding me scummy. ##vote RoyDrowsy

Oh, to clarify, the scum would want to ride the wave that is my rudeness to an easy and early hang of me. They want me out of the game and this is a common issue I have early on so I'm a little used to it.

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



I'll be doing the challenge either tonight after 10pm (when I get home ) or tomorrow when I have off, but fully expect some sick rhymz

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



Why would I apologize for telling you the truth about doing that dumb thing you do, I still feel the same way about it as I did when I wrote that! The only difference is, being tired, I was willing to say it!

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



Only by way of me being irritated at you for doing it.

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



That is to say, me lecturing you abrasively got enough people involved that I was vote-able and the action of me being voted has jumpstarted this game, not your bad thing. I did it, not you.

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



I wanted the game to get going too! I just despise out-of-the-gate claims in general and VT is the most annoying of all.

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



Roydrowsy posted:

You come out the gate acting crazy and erratic, pushing things way harder than they need to be, and then jumping at the throat of anybody who points it out. Granted what I brought to the table wasn't exactly breaking new ground, it was still worthy of note. I was curious to see what would happen if additional pressure was applied to you. Now we know. You continue throwing out revenge votes and attacking everybody who looks at you. You continue to play erratically.

So lets talk about why we can consider your actions scummy.

First, you are throwing votes around like crazy, trying to find something that will stick and take off of yourself. You are not playing as though you have any interest in finding scum, you're playing out of your own interest. I've voted once. I've not moved my vote. This isn't to say I can't, or I wouldn't, but I understand that doing so has weight and value. My job is to eliminate threats to town, and it won't happen if I flail about like fish on a line. You spread chaos and confusion at the expensive of the town's mission.

Second, this recent moment where you are trying to take credit for getting the game going. It is another odd thing to do. This is the first game I've played in which somebody cared who got the ball rolling. The only reason to mention it, is that you're trying to build goodwill and favor towards yourself. If you got the game started by making yourself vote-able, what debt do you think we owe you?

Third, your focus in the scum hunt, the trigger that sets off your radar, is that somebody looks at you. As town, I want to stay in the game, but its more important that my contributions help identify and uncover scum agents, even at the cost of myself. You are not playing that way at all. You are playing like your life matters more than those around you, and that's only true if you're playing for the other team.

Okay, at least you're trying to explain yourself and for that I can move back to ##vote Ghastly Gangsta, but you're misunderstanding a few things and I will do my best to address those now.

Firstly, you say I am throwing my votes around a lot. This is true. What you fail to realize is that pressing somebody without a vote in a game of mafia is akin to doing nothing in a game about doing something. By adding a vote to a suspicion, the incentive to respond is increased and thus the chances of an insightful reaction are also increased. Looking for scum is the number 1 priority and getting as many people meaningfully involved as possible is the biggest hurdle in the pursuit of that goal.

I'm not looking to take credit for getting the game going per se, more denying Pint's role in the generation of content given the fact that he should never ever loving claim vt out of the gate again. I'm probably going to make it policy to vote for him every time he does it going forward.

As for my trigger, consider the following: We are on page 4 of day 1 (the first page is almost entirely signup posts) and content is limited. The votes to analyze right now are generally votes for me. You can then conclude that it is not me OMGUSing everyone (though I do have a slight tendency to do this, as do we all, trying my best to stay grounded in such situations of course) but instead looking for scum with the content I have to work with. Consider also that I know for a fact that I am town and that there is at least one scum voting for me beyond a shadow of doubt.

The reason I found your post scummy was your attempt to use the negative feeling about me in the game to push a vote on me. Mixed with the parrot and slight additional content and it reads as a scum post. This post is a better

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



BottleKnight posted:

It's incredible how many people say this and how often wrong they are. Your certainty is scummy.

Certainty about what? That I am town? I can post my PM if you want, haha.

Certainty that scum is voting for me? No, theres no true certainty there I suppose, it just seems more likely than not, especially given the speed at which my votes piled up and the generally weak reasons behind them.

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



Still, how is it scummy to think that one of the 5 votes for me might be scum? What the gently caress?

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



BottleKnight posted:

It is not scummy to think that, it is scummy to say that it is 'beyond a shadow of a doubt,' it is the certainty that is scummy and I said specifically that in my post.

But I'm glad you backpedaled immediately, at least you're probably telling the truth now.

That's dumb and if I'm telling the truth now then why are you voting for me?

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



Roydrowsy posted:

I understand that votes can be used to generate action, but not when you're spreading it all around town.

I don't want to sound like some Christian lady talking to her daughter about her virginity, but if you toss your vote everywhere with every whim your vote loses meaning.

The first few people might feel inclined to respond to your antics, but after awhile nobody is going to care because you have turned yourself into the local crackpot, who nobody takes seriously.

You keep failing to recognize that your actions are, and continue to be a liability to town. Either you are scum, and you are just really not good at it, or you are a member of town who is actively working against the interests of town.

The whole conversation in this game is now about you. If your are scum you deserve it, if you are town you are giving scum a free ride for all of day one.

You need to rethink your strategy.

I have a very high success rate as both town and scum and I employ this tactic in most of my games. I realize what you think you're saying, but what you're actually saying is you prefer it when people aren't under pressure and you need to find content from pressureless people. I think you'll find your success rate following that strategy is lower. Oh, and I have a track record of leading the vote.

I'm not a liability. I don't think I'll be hanged today because I have the banner of Correct on my side, friend.

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



So back to scum hunting, then. Read the 15 or so posts following here. You will find that Gangsta's vote was weak, that his responses to my questions were vague and that when asked to elaborate, he vanished off of the face of the game. I think he didn't know what to do when I asked him for details and rather than engage with me in good faith he retreated to a non-posting stance and wanted to see where the wind would blow. Remember that scum tend to have a tough time early on; this is that to a T.

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



Other things that have pinged me so far:

Epsilon Plus has been around and commenting on the game as it progresses but has yet to do anything game related. It's pretty transparent fence sitting, really.

Pmom is Epsilon Plus if Epsilon was also trolling me and posted twice as much. More sus than EP because Pint is a seasoned vet who tends to be a bulldog. The play from Pint here is anything but that.

Machine has been goading me too and that vote she put on me was pretty freaking bad. Like, the vote was basically disavowing it as it left her fingertips. Here's what she's said so far: I post a lot, she disagrees about VT claims, she has questions that she isn't asking. Here's what she hasn't done so far: looked at anything in the game not posted by me in the lens of looking for scum or produced anything to make me think her vote on me is in earnest or has a sane rationale. She's my second scum pick of the game.

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



Propaganda Machine posted:

What can I say, I'm rusty, and it's really hard to build a good case on D1. Given that diq has been throwing poo poo at the wall to see what sticks, the question is how much real info we can pump from his posting if he gets lynched. I'm on the fence.

Lmao now she wants people to vote for me to gather information

I WANT TWO VOTES

ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



Taste, does it matter how long it is? I don't know how much I can really talk about weed.

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ASAPRockySituation
May 9, 2010



None of those are cases. They are you asking a lot of questions directed at specific people. In the case of Foo, it boils down to the fact that he isn't voting me for being mad at Pmom (I will direct you to the fact, again, that I never voted for Pint) and for stifling content. You also seem to blame me for the latter. With Hal, you just called him a lurker.

I'm pretty confident he's scum.

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