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Yaos
Feb 22, 2003

She is a cat of significant gravy.

Republican Vampire posted:

Because it's a lazy way of giving the protagonist pathos and ignorance of the setting, but the necessarily brief glimpse we get of his life before the story proper starts undercuts our ability to care about what he's nominally lost.

How is it lazier than giving the player character amnesia in your favorite Fallout?

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Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010


What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?


Republican Vampire posted:

Because it's a lazy way of giving the protagonist pathos and ignorance of the setting, but the necessarily brief glimpse we get of his life before the story proper starts undercuts our ability to care about what he's nominally lost.

Give him amnesia I say.

Republican Vampire
Jun 2, 2007



Keeshhound posted:

Wasn't that also one of the characters in Mothership Zeta?

There were like three you met plus a bunch in recordings.

Yaos
Feb 22, 2003

She is a cat of significant gravy.

sout posted:

There's always a vault. There's always a man. There's always a guy who says "war never changes."
So you're saying this is in the Bioshock canon?

Firstborn
Oct 14, 2012

Hope is a mistake


What else did those mysterious audition slides say?

Filthy Casual
Aug 13, 2014



Yaos posted:

The player character in Skyrim is voiced.

Actual dialogue isn't the same thing as uttering sound effects. Unless you consider Link a voiced character.

sout
Apr 24, 2014





Bholder
Feb 26, 2013

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.

Republican Vampire posted:

Because it's a lazy way of giving the protagonist pathos and ignorance of the setting, but the necessarily brief glimpse we get of his life before the story proper starts undercuts our ability to care about what he's nominally lost.

How is that different from living in a utopian vault, which we need to leave to face the dark and evil real world?

Harrow posted:

Well, at least we can be pretty sure that this is what the actual game will look like and we're not being shown some doctored-up marketing graphics.

Right?

...right?

These pictures don't look good enough to be "doctored-up"

Jubs
Jul 10, 2006

Boy, I think it's about time I tell you the difference between a man and a woman. A woman isn't a woman unless she's pretty. And a man isn't a man unless he's ugly.








Republican Vampire
Jun 2, 2007



Yaos posted:

How is it lazier than giving the player character amnesia in your favorite Fallout?

The Courier doesn't have amnesia. He or she is just a totally blank slate who can be as ignorant or aware as the player wants.

But it's also not an issue of laziness. I'm sure they've put a lot of work into their dumb premise, complete with flashbacks and lovingly designed ruins full of dioramas they've set up to give you emotions. It's just wasted effort, like all the father/son crap in Fallout 3.

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

MEIDAY



College Slice

Bethesda's main problem is that we live in a world where The Witcher 3 exists.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Tell 'em that God's gonna
cut 'em down.


I cannot wait to listen to troy baker go "hunh...." or "lookie what we got here..." every time I go through a box

Rexicon1
Oct 9, 2007

A Shameful Path Led You Here

Part of me wishes that they made the vault dweller a lady just to immolate the Internet.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me


1stGear posted:

Bethesda's main problem is that we live in a world where The Witcher 3 exists.

Witcher 3 has ray guns!?

Republican Vampire
Jun 2, 2007



Bholder posted:

How is that different from living in a utopian vault, which we need to leave to face the dark and evil real world?

You could and did return to Vault 13 to do side quests and get an ongoing sense of the community and your place in it. Bethesda did something similar with Vault 101, but I don't think it really worked either because so much of that was bound up in James, who was a total nonstarter as a character.

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

Super good job cancelling Prey 2 to make this Bethesda. A+ decision making.

Mr. Kerstbal
Sep 2, 2011

ORIGINAL MONKEY FUCKER


Rexicon1 posted:

Part of me wishes that they made the vault dweller a lady just to immolate the Internet.

For sure

Fair Bear Maiden
Jun 17, 2013


CJacobs posted:

I cannot wait to listen to troy baker go "hunh...." or "lookie what we got here..." every time I go through a box

If Bethesda is smart they'll just hire Matthew Mercer. It's cheaper and they'll get the same performance.

Yaos
Feb 22, 2003

She is a cat of significant gravy.

1stGear posted:

Bethesda's main problem is that we live in a world where The Witcher 3 exists.

Nobody can make a game as lovely as The Witcher 3, but I'm sure Bethesda will try.

Republican Vampire posted:

The Courier doesn't have amnesia. He or she is just a totally blank slate who can be as ignorant or aware as the player wants.
Also known as amnesia.

Filthy Casual
Aug 13, 2014



AlternateAccount posted:

Super good job cancelling Prey 2 to make this Bethesda. A+ decision making.

Agreed.

Fellbat
Feb 23, 2014



The vault boy is already super stylized, pop games you lovely plastic baubles hacks.

Phil Tenderpuss
Jun 11, 2012


Ahahahahahahaha

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010


What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?


Republican Vampire posted:

The Courier doesn't have amnesia. He or she is just a totally blank slate who can be as ignorant or aware as the player wants.

But it's also not an issue of laziness. I'm sure they've put a lot of work into their dumb premise, complete with flashbacks and lovingly designed ruins full of dioramas they've set up to give you emotions. It's just wasted effort, like all the father/son crap in Fallout 3.

I don't want flashbacks/pre-war stuff either.

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

Note literally everyone's elbow in the same spot because gently caress having different animations for very different characters.

Bholder
Feb 26, 2013

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.

If there's a real problem with the potential engine, it will be about loading screens.

AlternateAccount posted:

Note literally everyone's elbow in the same spot because gently caress having different animations for very different characters.

Just like in every other game, ever.

Firstborn
Oct 14, 2012

Hope is a mistake


Yaos posted:

Nobody can make a game as lovely as The Witcher 3


SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013



Fair Bear Maiden posted:

If Bethesda is smart they'll just hire Matthew Mercer. It's cheaper and they'll get the same performance.

I was tripping out during Pillars of Eternity because both companions you get at the beginning of the game after the tutorial area are voiced by Matthew Mercer, who sounds exactly like Troy Baker.

Yaos
Feb 22, 2003

She is a cat of significant gravy.

Phil Tenderpuss posted:

Ahahahahahahaha


Not only does everybody in this shot have the same skeleton, it's the same animation from Fallout 3.

Phil Tenderpuss
Jun 11, 2012


AlternateAccount posted:

Note literally everyone's elbow in the same spot because gently caress having different animations for very different characters.

Also note that its the exact same run animation they've been using since Oblivion lmfao

Yaos
Feb 22, 2003

She is a cat of significant gravy.

Phil Tenderpuss posted:

Also note that its the exact same run animation they've been using since Oblivion lmfao

That dude on the left is using the same crouch animation.

Phil Tenderpuss
Jun 11, 2012


Yaos posted:

That dude on the left is using the same crouch animation.

Lol I didn't notice this at first

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013



I heard the lead animator for Bethesda Studios was a college friend of Todd Howard who got hired despite the fact that he failed his computer animation course at college twice.

Yaos
Feb 22, 2003

She is a cat of significant gravy.

SunAndSpring posted:

I heard the lead animator for Bethesda Studios was a college friend of Todd Howard who got hired despite the fact that he failed his computer animation course at college twice.

You failed making good posts but that never stopped you.

Merry Magpie
Jan 8, 2012

A superstitious cowardly lot.


Anime Schoolgirl posted:

make critical VATS headshots make the targets' eyes explode, even when shot from back or side of head = return of eyeshots

And groin shots please. Thank you.

mackintosh
Aug 18, 2007


Semper Fidelis Poloniae


Give me a gun, a dog and a nuclear wasteland and I will buy your DLCs and play for 200 hours. Seeing how this is a Bethesda in-house production, obviously this isn't going to be as good as F:NV. I doubt however that F4 will be worse than F3 story and gameplay wise and I really enjoyed F3. Agreed that graphics are nothing to write home about, but as the cliche saying goes - no one plays Fallout for graphics.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Don't be so gloomy. After all it's not that awful. Like the fella says, in Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance.



Canned Ferret

I know I should be complaining that this is going to be bad and evil and disappointing compared to New Vegas because Bethesda but I'm really loving excited nonetheless.

Vincent Van Goatse fucked around with this message at Jun 3, 2015 around 20:11

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

Also I wish Bethesda would acknowledge that their implementation of VATS in a 3rd person FPS is loving dumb and doesn't work and needs a pretty serious rethink. OH LOL I SHOT HIM IN THE DICK LOOOOLLLLL

Fellbat
Feb 23, 2014


The fact that they managed to add colours was such a huge innovation for them that they probably gave up and took a nap, instead of fixing everything else.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

I know I should be complaining that this is going to be bad and evil and disappointing compared to New Vegas because Bethesda but I'm really loving exciting nonetheless.

Agreed, you are exciting...and dreamy.

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s.i.r.e.
Apr 22, 2008

Down the Rabbit Hole.


AlternateAccount posted:

Super good job cancelling Prey 2 to make this Bethesda. A+ decision making.

I still have hope.


Yaos posted:

Not only does everybody in this shot have the same skeleton, it's the same animation from Fallout 3.

Why'd this take 4 years again?

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