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SERPUS posted:Why would you preorder this? Because fallout is the best series of video games in human history. Fact.
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Jun 3, 2015 20:17
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1stGear posted:Bethesda's main problem is that we live in a world where The Witcher 3 exists. magic and potions are gay. gimme guns and nukes
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Jun 3, 2015 22:00
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cargohills posted:If you don't want to immediately killed by Cazadors or Deathclaws, that is true. It's actually pretty easy to get to Vegas immediately. I did it the first time I ever played the game because I saw Vegas in the distance and was like gently caress going south. The route is basically Goodsprings Cemetery - Sloan - Neil's Shack, then just head north along the cliffs while not getting close enough to the 1-2 deathclaws up there to aggro them. Usually I can pull it off in one go.
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Jun 6, 2015 17:17
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Xavier434 posted:That part is true. If VATS were designed as simply an optional tool that the player can use if they find it more enjoyable then it would be great. The fact that they tied in perks and other stats to the system is what sucked about its implementation. I generally prefer not to use VATS but I do use it regularly enough to the point where I would miss it if it were gone. There's not like a whole shitload of VATS perks. You can easily make a great build that doesn't rely on VATS at all. If you like VATS, you can take perks that enhance VATS. If you like energy weapons, you can take perks that enhance energy weapons, etc. It adds choice. It's not like they shoehorned you into using it. There's 117 perks and you can choose 25 of them.
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Jun 8, 2015 20:58
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icantfindaname posted:It's almost like .... none of the Fallouts were very good games in the first place get out of our clubhouse gringo
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Jun 8, 2015 21:07
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Chomp8645 posted:Witcher 3 has retroactively made all Bethesda games bad. It's been like 5 years since the last fallout. derra posted:The VATS perks aren't great and aren't remotely desirable in a min max build anyway. A lot of them don't work well together anyway. So you really need bonuses to hit legs, head and torsos? Sniper and Commando combined own a whole lot.
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Jun 8, 2015 21:20
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icantfindaname posted:I don't even dislike regular Bethesda games, Skyrim/Morrowind are good. It's the marriage of Fallout setting and Bethesda game that doesn't do it for me. Something about it just seems fanfiction-y in the worst kind of way Really? I'm the exact opposite. Huge RPG with guns is awesome, but then you change the guns to bows and add dragons and elves and magic and you lose me.
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Jun 8, 2015 21:24
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Hot Jam posted:Yea, and all signs point to us getting a game running on the same engine. don't know the implications of this and i couldn't care less. fo4 will own and own hard and it will be the best game on the market until the next fallout comes out.
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Jun 8, 2015 21:45
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Blue Raider posted:i will never understand goons love of new vegas or even obsidian in general. sure their writing is alright but their games are so ugly and retardedly designed as to barely qualify as video games at all fallout could be 2D and i'd play it. the graphics aren't why it's good. no other games give you an open world that you can mold like that. you're just now getting the option to choose dialogue in other games, which fallout has had since 08. i'm expecting big things from fo4. the kind of game you can play for hundreds of hours and still think of something new and fun to try.
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Jun 8, 2015 21:59
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icantfindaname posted:Faction based is just as dumb, in fact. There's no difference between them, they're reskins of each other i agree. give me a guided story where your side is picked for you, as are all your allies.
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Jun 8, 2015 22:00
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icantfindaname posted:Or don't include factions at all and don't try to tell a narrative story it's more like a goosebumps choose your own adventure book combined with mad libs. owns.
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Jun 8, 2015 22:09
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icantfindaname posted:So it's a bad story for children at best, and spergy nerds at worst. A Good Post It's a fun game with tons of poo poo to do and choices to make. Sorry you can't appreciate it. 
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Jun 8, 2015 22:16
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The thing is it's really hard to predict anything about FO4. We can look at fallout 3 (2008) and FNV (2010) and use those as a point of reference, but how useful is that really? FNV was so much more open ended than FO3, and they made huge improvements in basically everything in just 2 years. Now, they've had FIVE years to let their imaginations run wild on the possibilities of what they can do to expand the game and make it work. I don't really think saying "I don't like FNV because X, so I probably won't care about FO4" is good logic. There's going to be a lot of things in the game that are completely unrecognizable.
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Jun 8, 2015 23:36
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hmm yes i dislike fallout because it's so ~steampunk~ but i'll go root through dwarven ruins in skyrim all day.
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Jun 9, 2015 01:43
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achillesforever6 posted:One of favorite surprises in NV was finding out that there was a fairly extensive sewer system with people from around the slums of New Vegas living down there. that place was huge and there was like 1 mission that went there.  westside was such a wasted opportunity. it was at least as big as freeside.
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Jun 9, 2015 05:59
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Blitzball kicked rear end tho
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Jun 9, 2015 06:10
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pmchem posted:Yup, truth. To be fair, fallouts have to be a bitch of a game to test and patch. Every combination of decisions you make presents a different game to whoever plays it, and the potential for new bugs. If you count each piece of dialogue, there's got to be thousands of different ways to do a playthrough. "bob, did you check that mission where you discuss turning in chief hanlon and he commits suicide after you killed everyone at all the ranger stations because you started working with the legion after you already started that mission once you were done with forging the misfits performance results like i asked?" "...piss."
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Jun 14, 2015 07:21
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fallout 3 came out 7 years ago fyi.
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Jun 14, 2015 16:40
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ShadowMar posted:no but if you care about anything at all that means you're a sperg because as a goon i can't understand basic concepts is it really that hard to just run around and be a shooty mans? if you're going to run a fine tooth comb through every game you play and analyze every detail because ~immersion~ or whatever, you're always going to be disappointed. if you find something silly like a bug or an inconsistency, laugh at it and keep going. hell, finding stuff like that is half of the fun of the games, and i don't want it fixed. like when you see rivet city, the correct response is to say "fuckin rights, a big rear end boat city!" not "hmmm, this boat is in a state of disrepair that surely would've led to it sinking over the last hundred years. problematic." you're not going to get novel level detail from a video game. suck it up or go read a book.
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Jun 14, 2015 16:47
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Acebuckeye13 posted:The problem is, as an open-world RPG the game encourages the player to talk to everyone, run over everything, and see firsthand how the world sticks together. The problem with Fallout 3 isn't necessarily that it falls apart if you look at it hard enough, but that it's so poorly put together that it practically calls attention to its internal contradictions and flaws. It's a lot easier to tear apart if even the most basic premises of the game don't make sense. Fallout 3's main story was boring and I don't even remember it, but there were a ton of fun side quests and more than enough motivation to explore the hell out of the map. For what it was, a massive theme park trial balloon, it was awesome. No other console game had anywhere close to the depth that fallout 3 had. It was unprecedented to make a game like that. New Vegas improved upon this substantially in 2010, tying everything together a lot better, and addressing a lot of the biggest criticisms of 3 (lame main story, drab lighting, little connection between communities), and it was one of the best games ever made. I don't get how people can not be hyped for the new one, especially when they're bitching about old rear end games that were revolutionary in their day by comparing them to a game that came out a few months ago. If you want to compare it to Skyrim, cool, but keep in mind that Skyrim was universally applauded and I don't know if there's a game out yet that matches it in sheer amount of poo poo to do. Hell, I hate the knights and elves and not-middle earth theme when it comes to anything, and I still put over a hundred hours into that game. If Fallout 4 is not an incredible, revolutionary game, it will be the exception to the rule. I'm sure goons will find plenty to bitch about, but they'll have to grasp at straws a hell of a lot harder than they will for any other game on the market.
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Jun 14, 2015 17:30
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:What I'm getting out of this is that you expect Fallout 4 to be little more than an incredible theme park, which is cool. I think that's cool too. I like theme parks where you can shoot clay people. Nah, I'm expecting it to be better than the last game they made, which has always been the case. It's also been several years since they released a real game, so there will be a lot of new and awesome things they're going to present. It definitely will be an incredible theme park, but there will also be a lot of progress in tying the game together while also making it more open ended imo. The only thing I'm worried about is what they're doing with online gameplay. I wouldn't mind something in the vein of what Far Cry 4 did at all, but I'm not sure how I'd feel about an mmo. Mr. Fortitude posted:The Witcher 3. The Witcher 3 sets the gold standard in all sandbox RPGs, really and I say that as someone who didn't like the first two Witcher games at all. Not only is there about as much to do in Skyrim, the quests feel more lovingly crafted too and not just "collect 10 bear anuses" or "find the magic dildo in some dungeon that's never been visited and looted about a yard apart from another dungeon which has somehow never been visited and looted". Ok, but Skyrim came out in 2011 and Witcher 3 came out not even a month ago. I feel bad for the people who made it. It sounds like it's a good game, and it's gonna sit on the throne for so little time. 
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Jun 14, 2015 17:51
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ToxicAcne posted:You will try and then fail because stealth has been the only consistently fun way to play recent Bethesda games. melee is fun. so is a guns build. and energy weapons.
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Jun 14, 2015 22:51
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Rabidredneck posted:Few more hours till Bethesda's pre-E3 show. 10:00 PM EST. I'm gonna watch it on Twitch. Looking forward to seeing what they've got so far. post a link when it's up would you.
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Jun 14, 2015 23:43
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Doom isn't my cup of tea but those melee attacks are hilarious in a good way.
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Jun 15, 2015 03:25
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Shut upppp
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Jun 15, 2015 03:40
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The thing about the ending that bothered me was that it was that really lazy style where once you finish the final mission, it just loads the last save you had before you started it.
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Jun 15, 2015 03:46
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SPECIAL is still there, gently caress the haters
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Jun 15, 2015 03:56
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You can tell your companions to do poo poo!
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Jun 15, 2015 04:01
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Pip boy apps
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Jun 15, 2015 04:05
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Holy poo poo
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Jun 15, 2015 04:12
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Take all my money
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Jun 15, 2015 04:13
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I'm gonna make a loving sweet compound
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Jun 15, 2015 04:14
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700 weapon mods. 
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Jun 15, 2015 04:15
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I am. I am ready to gently caress poo poo up
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Jun 15, 2015 04:18
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Novemberrrrrr!
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Jun 15, 2015 04:21
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Game of the year or game of the decade?
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Jun 15, 2015 04:23
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frajaq posted:They didn't say anything about Skills did they? No but it did show him creating his character with SPECIAL.
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Jun 15, 2015 04:28
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graynull posted:I'm really curious about the modding prospects. Those new systems looked great, but might be hell for players to mod. Still, I'll reserve my negativity until I have reason to think it won't be very easy. it looked pretty straightforward. a menu where you can go through every mod to see what it requires to build. i cannot loving wait to build a full auto plasma rifle. plus it gives you a reason to not just skim over wonderglue and worthless poo poo that never mattered in any of the other games. did he access that menu through the pip boy? loving better be able to see on the go.
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BurnBlackJay posted:Where can I watch thu new trailers? If they aren't up on youtube yet, they will be soon.
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