Fallout 4: Power Armored Garbage Farmers

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achillesforever6: Apr 23, 2012; psst you wanna do a communism?

CJacobs posted:

I cannot wait to listen to troy baker go "hunh...." or "lookie what we got here..." every time I go through a box

I think they should just hire the Boss voice actors from Saints Row for all the voice options.

Oh and I wonder what the voice cast is going to be?

Hopefully they take cues from New Vegas which had a surprisingly stacked cast
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1706601/

Sharkopath posted:

I thought DC was a cooler setting than the desert.

But the desert can be really cool, there is so much beauty in its desolation

# ¿ Jun 3, 2015 21:50

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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 00:49

achillesforever6: Apr 23, 2012; psst you wanna do a communism?

David Corbett posted:

It's a Bethesda game. Before long, everything about it is going to be surprisingly stacked

Oh god I just realized with the whole Android subplot they are going to do something stupid like spend all their VA budget on Harrison Ford because Bladerunner

# ¿ Jun 3, 2015 22:10

achillesforever6: Apr 23, 2012; psst you wanna do a communism?

gasman posted:

Now, if it would be Rutger Hauer, that would be totally fine by me.

They should get Jeff Goldblum to voice a companion because who wouldn't want to hang out with Jeff Goldblum in the post post apocalypse?

# ¿ Jun 3, 2015 22:29

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Genocyber posted:

Doesn't FO3 take place in the same timeframe?

e: I looked it up and yeah, NV takes place only a few decades after FO3.

Yeah FO3 starts in 2077 while NV starts in 2081

I imagine FO4 begins in like 2088 and hopefully FNV2 is like 2092

MisterBibs posted:

DC was a better setting because it's the goddamed capital of the US, and its strategic nature meant a lot of bombs would fall on it, ensuring that everything-is-rubble look would remain even 200 years down the line.

The nest NV expansion/mod/whatever was the one, unsurprisingly, that was a big corridor of ruined buildings. Fallout being post-apocalyptic, not post-post-apocalyptic, who would've thought.

Its kind of surprising that in the Pitt that Pittsburgh didn't really get nuked to oblivion considering it strategic industrial value.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2015 23:02

achillesforever6: Apr 23, 2012; psst you wanna do a communism?

Roobanguy posted:

2277

Yeah I had a brain fart on that :downs:

# ¿ Jun 3, 2015 23:21

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NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:

I preferred 3's setting to New Vegas. Everything in the Capital Wasteland felt like it was in a state of flux, with people huddled into poisoned, bombed-out towns and rotting, mirelurk-infested aircraft carriers because those places only might kill you when what's outside definitely will. New Vegas by comparison just felt a little bit too settled and safe. Nonchalantly wandering off into the hills to shoot varmints should be a death sentence, not a training mission.

I know that some level of normality should have resumed ~200 years after the bombs, but that doesn't mean it makes for a better game.

I like that New Vegas is basically a post apocalyptic Western and that you are basically a man with no name. Also great is that the radio doesn't patronize or demonize you for every choice you make in New Vegas

# ¿ Jun 3, 2015 23:24

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Tamayachi posted:

I would absolutely love to see a FO game take place in China or Europe or something. Just handwave you character as the great-grandchild of a POW or something from the Great War or something, then basically play Metro 2033.

Speaking of which, Vault-Tec had vaults to house people in USA, did the other countries also have Vaults of their own, or did they all just become ghouls?

No turns out that all the nukes that hit Europe and China were duds because of shoddy work and they have spent the last 200 years laughing and progressing

# ¿ Jun 4, 2015 00:48

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Anime Schoolgirl posted:

A quest more sprawling and epic than murdering every legionary in your path, i'm sure

How about finding the reason why Vault 11 is so messed up, or helping a bunch of ghouls try to launch a rocket to the heavens, or being a drug runner for the coolest drug dealer in the history gaming, or working for a group of Elvis impersonators, or finding a sex robot for casino, or helping your Danny Trejo ghoul friend reasons that he isn't useless, or fixing a power plant because the guy with the theoretical degree in theoretical physics couldn't figure it out.

Also killing NCR scum in the name of Caesar is cool too.

# ¿ Jun 4, 2015 02:24

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Krinkle posted:

Who was the coolest drug runner and why? Dixon?

Jack the Great Khan
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Jack_(Great_Khans)
I can never go against the Great Khans because of him

Well actually the Great Khans I usually let leave so they can go to the northern wastes of Idaho to form a mighty empire with some of the Followers :black101:

# ¿ Jun 4, 2015 02:57

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PittTheElder posted:

I honestly thought NV was super disappointing compared to 3. Maybe the quests are better, but I gave zero shits about companions and their terrible AI, so I mostly found myself wishing I had a bombed out city ruin to explore. The mess that was DC was way more fun than the endless deserts around NV. The forest part towards that mutant town was pretty cool though.

How could you not like the companions, each have good personalities and most of their quests are fun/good/somewhat compelling.

Shugojin posted:

It's linear in the sense that there are critter walls trying to make you follow the main quest path and around New Vegas you get the opportunity to just poo poo all over probability and get a ton of equipment and make those things not matter anymore.

_{Dead Money is excellent}

I remember someone in FNV long ago showing a map of where the game wants you to go, but shows all the various shortcuts/alt routes that you can take to reach places like NOVAC

# ¿ Jun 5, 2015 17:22

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Nelson Mandingo posted:

NCR has a lot of depth but at no point does the Legion have any positives besides the fact there isn't any banditry in their lands. Which I guess is an ok tradeoff as long as the half of humanity I'm not has to live as unthinking slaves.

Legion have sweet armor and I can appreciate someone trying to create a post apocalyptic pseudo-Roman society over just remaking the USA. Plus Caesar is fun to talk to. I still wish that the Legion endings had you be named Caesar's heir to the throne. Also the Legion has some of the best quests in the game.

I wish more time and money was given to Obsidian so they could expand on the Legion, like have a town that is directly under Legion control with Legion citizens. I wish their slavery wasn't so over the top, they should have gone with Roman slavery which by the time of the Empire "wasn't as bad" as say Southern Slavery.

# ¿ Jun 5, 2015 19:08

achillesforever6: Apr 23, 2012; psst you wanna do a communism?

The thing I really disliked about FO3 is how all the unique weapons look no different from the normal version of a gun

# ¿ Jun 5, 2015 19:37

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chitoryu12 posted:

The Legion is pretty much 100% "And then they slaughtered this town and enslaved the women and children".

Hey if the player lets Caesar live the Followers make it out fine

Sharkopath posted:

They hinted at this game having cutomizable weapons, that woukd be neat.

Well that's good I loved modding my weapons in NV and actually seeing the changes that happened to the weapon

# ¿ Jun 5, 2015 19:51

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Shugojin posted:

Also, Marcus has a super good point about Caesar. He talks a good talk, but it dies with him. Just look at the rear end in a top hat who ends up in charge if you let him die.

The Legate is pretty badass, its also very rewarding to talk him down in the final boss level then again it was also fun to talk down the Master in FO1. I like boss fights that can be resolved in ways that don't involve brute force

# ¿ Jun 6, 2015 02:22

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Republican Vampire posted:

It's complicated. They've been at war with the NCR since before there was an NCR. They were formed from one of the four factions that emerged from Vault 15 after the Vault collapsed into violent conflict. So there's this long shared history there. Most of their raiding's basically an extension of that conflict, since the only raiding they ever seem to do targets Shady Sands. Sure, they had a couple rear end in a top hat leaders, but on the whole they're pretty chill people who the Republic's treated like poo poo for years. Garl Death-Hand could get along with Killian Darkwater, so clearly they're not that bad. There's a quest in Fallout 2 that involves violently driving them out of their ancestral home and killing most of them so that the NCR can use its tech to launch a violent and corrupt expansion campaign. I think that raiding and doing violence against the people who have been brutally oppressing you for ages is not really that evil a thing to do.

Yeah by NV they basically turned the Great Khans into this group of pseudo bikers/native americans/mongol raiders

I always liked them though, Papa Bear is a good leader who is fairly reasonable when it comes to things not involving the NCR, he also listens to his members of the tribe and they get a fairly good ending if you convince them to leave.

Shugojin posted:

Yeah, I mostly meant that no one else share's Caesar's actual vision because he never loving told anybody, so everybody else is just going to blindly bash their way through the Wasteland, hating and fearing medicine and technology rather than growing to use it like Caesar intended.

Again I do wish if you sided with the Legion that you got an ending where Caesar adopted you to continue the Rome parallels and make you either a Augustus or Caligula depending on your moral standing after the game is over.

The real tragedy is that Obsidian could never find the time nor money to make gameplay after the main quest was over to show you just how much the world changed from your actions.

Sharkopath posted:

New Vegas doesn't have Ella Fitzgerald or Billie Holiday on it, making it the poorer product by my most important objective metric.

Yeah the music in New Vegas isn't as good as 3, but at least the radio host is better.

Then again mods make that a moot point really since you can put a ton of music in the radios then.

On the flip side Fallout 3 didn't have the vocal talents of Danny Trejo, Zachary Levi, Kris Kristofferson, Rene Auberjonois, Michael Dorn, John Doman, Michael Hogan, and a bunch of other voice actors that are in every video game (your Steve Blums and Laura Bailey's)

Hell I'm shocked that Troy Baker wasn't in New Vegas.

2house2fly posted:

There aren't any ghosts or cthulus in New Vegas, no.

There are however Aliens, Holy Hand Grenades, ROUS, Indiana Jones, and most important of all Johnny Five Aces

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# ¿ Jun 6, 2015 02:59

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Freakazoid_ posted:

Fallout 3 had a problem with sniping where after a medium distance bullets plain missed no matter how high your skill was.

Fallout NV did not have this problem and I enjoyed headshotting most of the deathclaws from atop the gravel feeder in the limestone quarry.

Fallout 4 better let me loving snipe properly.

That's the hardest thing about going back to playing FO3 on the PS3 is the fact that trying to aim feels so much worse than New Vegas.

# ¿ Jun 6, 2015 04:06

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Cream-of-Plenty posted:

The problem for me is then: How can you maintain the RPG mechanics of the game while making guns feel more tangible and satisfying to use? It's definitely a difficult thing to achieve, but I would still love it if somebody figured it out.

I wish every gun in the Fallout games could be as satisfying as the This Machine
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/This_Machine
God shooting that thing is amazing because it sounds and feels like it has weight to it everytime you shoot and reload it.

# ¿ Jun 6, 2015 05:35

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Hihohe posted:

Nothing beats Old World Blues. THE BIG MT! ROBOSCORPIANS! NIGHTSTALKERS! LOBOTIMITES! MUGGY!
The best DLC

And you got the voice actors of Dr. Venture and Captain Qwark hamming it up

# ¿ Jun 6, 2015 06:17

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Delsaber posted:

In my mind a lot of universities survived and started forming frat-based raiding tribes, all of which died from either alcohol poisoning or alcohol withdrawal a few weeks later.

I hope the people of Diamond City look like the baseball gang from The Warriors, in fact I wish all the gangs in the Fallout 4 take a cue from The Warriors and have a ton of unique raiders tribes/groups/cliques

# ¿ Jun 7, 2015 06:15

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Plan Z posted:

The lack of West Pennsylvania accents in the Pitt was genuinely upsetting.

"AY YINS GAWNA GUP THE TAWR UH KILL ASHUR ERE BUDDY?!"

Yeah I was disappointed that language hadn't degraded to the point where all the raiders spoke Pittsburghese; that's what I liked about Honest Hearts in that the tribals had their own language based on the origin of their survivors (Like how the Deadhorses spoke with German words because their ancestors were German tourists)

# ¿ Jun 7, 2015 16:49

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Mr. Fortitude posted:

People really liked the design of Megaton, Rivet City, Tenpenny Tower and the historical landmarks in 3, even if they don't make any logical sense if you think about it for a few seconds. New Vegas was mostly desert, small industrial buildings and towns until you got to Freeside. It isn't as visually interesting to look at even though the world is consistent and makes logical sense.

Or to put it another way, a lot of people want the setting in their video games to be video gamey and memorable rather than realistic and mundane.

One of favorite surprises in NV was finding out that there was a fairly extensive sewer system with people from around the slums of New Vegas living down there.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2015 05:47

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Rinkles posted:

It was actually one of the least interesting, underdeveloped areas of the game, the Thorn notwithstanding.

Yeah but after playing the game for years it was neat to find something new

# ¿ Jun 9, 2015 05:55

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Prokhor Zakharov posted:

That's because in all the other games the Brotherhood is a fascistic warrior society with a foundation of isolationism, racism, and violence. Somehow Bethesda looked at this first two games and went "well clearly they're the good guys here" and magically teleported them across the country for no reason.

To be fair on Bethesda's part, this was set up with Fallout Tactics

# ¿ Jun 11, 2015 05:02

achillesforever6: Apr 23, 2012; psst you wanna do a communism?

Please tell me there is an option for iron sights in the game

# ¿ Jun 15, 2015 18:11

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Minorkos posted:

there is, it's in the 2 minute gameplay trailer with music

Thank god, that is the worst part for me trying to replay FO3

# ¿ Jun 15, 2015 18:19

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Yaos posted:

Open Boston confirmed.

All I can here from that quote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvc9_GDoWI4

Moridin920 posted:

The problem isn't that they can't afford to hire more random voice actors, the problem is the VA gets budgeted out beforehand (assuming it works like most companies do) and usually they (and everyone else) blow the whole thing on getting like 3-5 really high paid voice actors.

So then you end up with poo poo like Colonel Tigh voicing a character. Yeah, cool I like him and he did a good job, but at the end of the day it's one character and there aren't all that many lines and it would have been better to hire 5 random voice actors to flesh out more NPCs than pay one voice actor a bunch of money to do one NPC.

The dad in F3 was Liam Neeson ffs. Again, cool I like him, but kind of a waste of budget.

Frankly I'm surprised with the amount celebrities they got for NV

# ¿ Jun 24, 2015 21:42

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Lotish posted:

Yes.

gently caress it, just make it all the John Carpenter references, and give us companions who are all literally Kurt Russell reprising all his Carpenter roles.

Make the Arkham Lovecraft stuff just a bunch of In the Mouth of Madness references, hell get Sam Neill, he needs the money for his winery hobby.

I do kind of want to see what happened in DC a few years after FO3, did the EC Brotherhood spread out as a new nationstate? Absorbing the Pitt to form an industrial base from which they could spread Northward?

# ¿ Jun 25, 2015 04:22

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SirDan3k posted:

Except that's dumb because an apocalypse where people rebuild afterwards isn't an apocalypse. Society will never rebuild in Fallout and shouldn't, the NCR should be in flames held up as a failed attempt that was eaten alive by the new reality that is the wasteland. The Enclave and the Brotherhood should keep fracturing apart into splinter groups that work against each other.

poo poo should stay irrevocably hosed and any settlement big enough to stand as a ray of hope should be overrun in a matter of years.

Well Fallout is more post post apocalypse where we see nation/city states forming from the ruins of nuclear war.

I love how in Fallout 2 you got cities like Vault City and NCR that actually look new and clean.

# ¿ Jun 26, 2015 23:32

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Walrus Pete posted:

I'm no fan of Texas, but I hope you're joking because calling Texas boring then offering up the Dakotas?
Devil's Tower and Mount Rushmore are the only things in that part of the country worth putting in a video game like Fallout.

The Badlands too, just because they just pop out suddenly after driving through miles of plains.

# ¿ Jun 27, 2015 15:06

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Doodles posted:

The Pitt - This is the only one where you get some level of the ambiguity as far as how you end the thing. Not enough to keep me from putting a bullet in Ashur's face, but A for effort! It really isn't any longer than Anchorage is, it just feels that way because everyone wants to find all those loving ingots just to get the tribal power armor. (Seriously, the T-51b is way better.) Interesting level design and acceptable plot, but the only reason for not just killing everyone except the baby and getting it the hell out of there is the knowledge that Pittsburgh's actual future is far more frightening than becoming a Trog. The Metal Blaster and Perforator are the best things out of it, but that means going out for those damned ingots.

Why Ashur is actually fairly reasonable and trying to find a cure for a horrible disease while the resistance are a bunch of idiot assholes

# ¿ Jul 15, 2015 04:47

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Dongicus posted:

its super gay how they looked at the incredible quest design of the last game and thought "man u know what would be cool? friggen gun customization and the mass effect dialogue wheel voiced by Troy Baker"

all my money le todd howard!!

Troy Baker is a national treasure you take that back and buy his music album :colbert:

# ¿ Jul 24, 2015 01:41

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computer parts posted:

I wouldn't say absolutely nothing, but it's definitely compressed.

Yeah I can't wait to see the real thing in a few weeks when I have to fix up trails and chainsaw invasive tree species

# ¿ Aug 14, 2015 22:17

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rope kid posted:

I'm fine if Honest Hearts is ruined for you because my goal was to get people to visit Zion.

Again I am willing to work for a conservation corps for 3 months to see Zion in person because of Honest Hearts. (well that and Americorps looks good on a resume and gives me some way of paying off crippling student debt :smithicide:

)

# ¿ Aug 15, 2015 02:37

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Rabidredneck posted:

The Someguy series which includes the New Bison Steve are all well done. I'd also recommend the New Vegas Bounties and New Vegas Bounties II which also have a story arc to them. The Afterschool Special quest has you rebuilding the Goodsprings school into a nice little player home.

He also made New Vegas Killer, starring Bobby Bass, solid voice acting on his part and drat he is funny. Alchestbreach did a playthrough of that series. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRzBehkv394

The only problem I have with the Bounties series is just how on the nose they are about referencing pop culture stuff, but then again that's Fallout in a nutshell then

# ¿ Sep 5, 2015 20:33

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Rough Lobster posted:

I loved the ONE caravan driver who likes the Legion because they keep him safe from highwaymen. He's like the only non legion NPC who likes them.

Raul doesn't seem to have a problem with them, and if they okay with zombie Danny Trejo they are okay with me

Funky Valentine posted:

Raul, being the cool dude that he is, offers a different perspective of the Legion in one conversation, but still concludes "dudes are batshit, also gently caress them for pronouncing Tuscon wrong".

I mean it's obvious that even if the Legion got fully fleshed out, the faction alignment would still be:

GOOD:
NCR

NEUTRAL:
House
Independent

BAD:
Legion

BEYOND THE MORTAL CONCEPT OF GOOD AND EVIL:
The Kings
FISTO

The Kings are cool and gently caress House for killing them, that douchebag blowhard

# ¿ Oct 18, 2015 05:21

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widespread posted:

MacCready you gently caress go back to ~~Little Lamplight~~ Big Town.

I just wish he grew up to be voiced by Kurt Russel, I mean I would finally be okay with Bethesda stunt casting if that had happened.

Speaking of which I wonder if Bethesda learned New Vegas lesson in hiring TV/B-movie actors over one A-list actor that kills the budget

# ¿ Nov 9, 2015 01:36

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Cyrano4747 posted:

It's really the only way to explain why the Commonwealth is a anarchic fuckhole while at the same time the NCR is a full fledged nation, the Legion is in its own way, and New Vegas has the independent city-state thing nailed down pretty well. Really that was the thing I liked the most about NV: the sense that it was actually 200 years after the bombs fell and people hadn't just been sitting in the mud ever since.

Yeah New Vegas is basically a post apocalyptic Western game, shame that horses went extinct and that you can't ride mounts/cars without modding.

# ¿ Mar 7, 2016 19:26

achillesforever6: Apr 23, 2012; psst you wanna do a communism?

Azhais posted:

Intelligent deathclaws are still real to me

Yeah I'm glad the fully patched versions of Fallout 2 let you prevent the Intelligent Deathclaws from going extinct, honestly I'm shocked Bethesda didn't bring them back.

thecluckmeme posted:

FO1 was great, FO2 was a bit goofy and that wasn't really good but was a good game anyway, and then all the games afterward took the goofy and ran with it while taking not a gram of nuance with

At least New Vegas made it a perk to see the really goofy poo poo

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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 00:49

achillesforever6: Apr 23, 2012; psst you wanna do a communism?

Castor Poe posted:

I can't believe I'm defending Bethesda, but right off the the of my head, the first two games had: ghosts, Godzilla, the phone booth from Dr. Who, time travel, Monty Python characters, Max Mad beating your rear end if you hurt Dogmeat, talking deathclaws, Skynet, and your companions singing the song from Thunderdome upon defeating the final boss.

A silly side-quest poking fun at Indiana Jones 4 where you rescue a ghoul kid stuck in a fridge for 200 years?! You crossed the line, Bethesda!

I wish the Talking Deathclaws survived canonically after FO2 :smith:

# ¿ Dec 21, 2016 05:28

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