Saagonsa posted:

Generic Monk posted:

Yeah, if I had to compile a list of poo poo that no one asked for or particularly wanted out of a Bethasda game; 'voiced protagonist' would probably be at the top. Considering their record with most characters it wouldn't even be playing to their strengths. With any luck it's just for the trailer, or at the very least they have a female voice option too.

Skyrim was surprisingly popular with women who didn't usually play games of the type becasue it a)was fairly accessible and b)wasn't super heavily marketed towards an adolescent 'hey boobs/blood' male audience, with creating the character that represented you (or your cat/lizard alter ego) not having any effect on the gameplay. for all of skyrim's myriad flaws it was a nice (if inadvertent) boon.


well, I guess we can look forward to the paid moe anime player voice packs at least

mackintosh posted:

Agreed. I think for a lot of people NV was too far into the future setting-wise. I think a lot of players wanted Fallout's setting to be in the early post-apocalyptic days, as opposed to 200 years in the future. Fallout 3's art direction and map design made it feel like the bombs fell recently. Which, obviously, was at odds with the entire Fallout lore.

MisterBibs posted:

DC was a better setting because it's the goddamed capital of the US, and its strategic nature meant a lot of bombs would fall on it, ensuring that everything-is-rubble look would remain even 200 years down the line.

The nest NV expansion/mod/whatever was the one, unsurprisingly, that was a big corridor of ruined buildings. Fallout being post-apocalyptic, not post-post-apocalyptic, who would've thought.

MisterBibs posted:

Whatever you define as 'Good Story Telling', it sure as hell didn't make New Vegas better than 3. Sympathetic but mundane good guys (NCR), unsympathetically evil guys (Cesar) fighting over a low-scale/low-impact thing (Hoover Dam). Yawn.

Compare to walking behind a giant gunmetal Optimus Prime, shouting anti-communist slogans, throwing nukes like a football, against remnants of the US Government, in order to purify the water for the entire east coast of the setting. loving awesome.

Serious Frolicking posted:

i like dogs

2house2fly posted:

I've had enough of the Boy And His Dog poo poo from Bethesda to be honest. I don't have a PS4 or a tough enough PC to get Fallout 4 bur if and when I do get it I will be killing every single dog I see, even- no, especially- ones that are non-hostile and named.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

Not sure what system to pick fallout 4 up for if i get it. PC or ps4. pc has mods and my computer can run it, but it will probaly be buggy as poo poo, and i hate tinkering around in mod menues and game crashs. So maybe ps4. Idk.

megalodong posted:

I don't know how people can play fallout on consoles without the more realistic wasteland females mod.

Sharkopath posted:

I just started playing it for the first time and think I prefer 3 more as is, so far. Mostly because I think goodsprings and the surrounding desert isnt as interesting as fallout 3s intro but also because I think its weird that before even leaving the doctors shack you already have four sets of full condition armor and like ten weapons.

PittTheElder posted:

Well that's what I did, including Boone, but then it comes back to the fact that the Capital Wasteland has much cooler things to see than the Mojave does.

cargohills posted:

um, actually, caesar's legion was pretty clearly the BAD choice

the NCR is the THIS FACTION HAS NO INTERESTING CHARACTERS APART FROM BOONE choice

while House was the I WANT TO TALK TO SOMEONE INTERESTING OH GOD THE NCR WERE SO loving BORING choice

edit: also the karma system in NV was totally hosed, you could enact loving genocide and then kill a few fiends and you'd be Jesus again

Ghost Stromboli posted:

Personally I'm worried by Bethesda's goal to focus more on a narrative for this one. Fallout 3 vs. New Vegas aside, has Bethesda ever really done an amazing story? My memory's too foggy to immediately recall anything past Oblivion, but Oblivion, Fallout 3, and Skyrim kinda has boring main plots. Oblivion's just sucks, FO3's is a bit more solid but gets kind of boring, and Skyrim's has a few neat moments with the dragons but the ending falls short. It would be nice to think they've been getting better at it, but it's hard to imagine.

Boogaleeboo posted:

Skyrim was perfectly serviceable.

Random rear end in a top hat posted:

On the one hand, gating cities behind a million loading screens is so disliked, and open-city mods so popular, that Bethesda would have to be completely retarded to go that route yet again.

On the other, it's Bethesda.

Edit; Oh wait, I just remembered that this is getting released for consoles, too. So yeah, loading screens galore it is.

Flaky posted:

What is this guy's problem? There are plenty of trivial answers to his complaint, if only he would bother to continue his analysis past the totally superficial.

- What do they eat?

Uhhh, at least 3 of Moira's main quests (you know - pretty much the only NPC who actually gives you any significant number of quests in the whole drat game) is specifically designed to provide answers to this question. There is practically no crop production in the DC wasteland, because the water is radioactive. This is explicitly stated, just accept that much, please, seeing as you even admit in the article that you wont be holding radiation to realistic standards. It therefore makes no loving sense to have any living plants (or farms!) anywhere in DC. People eat by HUNTING, harvesting what little sustenance the wasteland can provide (molerats, mirelurk eggs, DOGMEAT, bloatfly flesh, radroach meat, Iguana bits), or scavenging food left over from before the war and then doing their best to detoxify it (adding wonderglue, making mirelurk cakes, using the FOOD SANITIZER that Moira gives you, just taking lots of RadAway etc.). It is explicitly made reference to that almost everyone is dying of radiation sickness or starving to death or thirst because of this. Nuka-cola (A DRINK) is practically the highest commodity. Wastelanders even (the horror!) revert to cannibalism (for which there is are not one, but several PERKS). Supermutants eat EVERYTHING. Ghouls eat EVERYTHING. Wild Dogs eat EVERYTHING. Especially juicy Vault-dwellers. As if that wasn't enough, at least one FOOD has evolved to absorb radiation (the punga fruit).

So shut up with your idiotic question! Most of the only decent quest in the whole game is totally devoted to SURVIVING IN THE WASTLAND, primarily by teaching the player where and how to look for food. There is constant reference to food, indeed most of the creatures you kill will drop a type of food on their corpse. Just because you didn't eat it because ~Rads~ doesn't mean it isn't there. In fact it is quite refreshing having loot drops that are so worthless that you can leave them behind, because that minimises inventory bloat.

One decent loving quest in the whole game, most of it about FOOD, and this genius's main criticism is that it isn't made explicity clear enough what people eat? For fucks sake why not ask a decent question - like why there are no lasting visual indicators of radiation poisoning or other diseases/mutations on the player, especially when so much effort went into allowing you to customise your character? Wouldn't that be fun? To try to maintain your character's appearance/health/status as non-ghoul by avoiding radiation?

MisterBibs posted:

I dunno, I'm generally in agreement with how Bethesda does it, and the way they do it makes their open world games critically and commercially successful.

Andrast posted:

The combat still looks bad

Praetorian Mage posted:

I have to admit a lot of the stuff looks good, but I'm concerned about the dialogue system. The voiced protagonist worries me, as does the fact that the dialogue system uses the face buttons. Does that mean there won't ever be more than four dialogue options? I'm also worried that the dialogue system will make modded quests and dialogue very hard to do, but I guess that's something we'll have to wait and see about.

Anita Dickinme posted:

GTA V. Autistic teenagers are the best entertainment.

MAKE WAY NEW STARS posted:

Which game did this happen with again, I can only remember it being loving funny as poo poo.

KillerQueen posted:

I hope FO4 has more silly poo poo in it that New Vegas did. My favorite quest in 3 was the small town with the superhero in the robot suit and the eeeeevil Ant Queen, and I was always disappointed with NV's lack of intentional nonsense.

frajaq posted:

What? Morrowind is a pain in the rear end to play, at least Oblivion improved on that, and Skyrim made it even better

SirDan3k posted:

Please people who love Morrowind are just chumps who never played Daggerfall.

Sharkopath posted:

They're very good at making bad games that sell incredible amounts of copies.

Cream-of-Plenty posted:

When I said that Fallout 5 would be Sims 4, that was not hyperbole. In keeping with the general narrative of "life rebuilds" and T. Howard's "time only moves in one direction (and it's forward)" dogma, subsequent Fallout games can only resemble an increasingly domesticated wasteland. So you start with the first Fallout game (Fallout 3), which is an irradiated green hellscape where NPCs suck condensation off of toilet seats and Raiders eat old building insulation to assuage crippling pica. Then you've got New Vegas: The green subsides to a rusty brown (the dust is no longer radioactive) as civilization rebuilds with corn and concrete and the player assists factions wrestling for the future of society. Fallout 4/Fallout Shelter take this theme one step further, with entire swaths of the game dedicated to literally building and managing towns. Tens of hours will be spent scavenging scrap, pounding hammers to level up, and snatching perks that focus on things like "NPCs in town will be happier (production +10%)" and "Unlock Level [X] Merchants and Doctors".

Fallout 5 will return to the isometric perspective--something that will reduce the NMA community's groveling. That is, until T. Howard storms on stage and reveals that the game will use the same engine as the Sims 4. In fact, it will be the Sims 4, with a focus on managing the homes, interpersonal relationships, and careers of wastelanders. With a smarmy grin, T. Howard looks straight at the camera and says it will take place in the year 2345.

The sequel, Fallout: Wasteland Overseer will basically be a carbon copy of a Tycoon game that takes place in the year 2377--the same year that the Vault 101 PA System claims the US will be habitable again.

Nasgate posted:

Clearly the pc didn't realize her preference until it was too late. Sure it's still silly, but it happens irl.

Bicyclops posted:

I kind of want to remake Star Control II now, so that you can't see what you're actually saying until you choose from a list of choices.

>Sounds hard.
"Hey, space is a tough place where wimps like you eat flaming plasma death."

AceSnyp3r posted:

You can get it at least 15% off (I think there's a 20% off code out there still) on GreenManGaming right now. I pre-ordered it on a 23% off deal. I have a feeling you won't see it on sale cheaper for a long time.

The Iron Rose posted:

So it turns out that nerds are terrible with money and writing mods is popular, because I've made 50 bucks through donations in the last three days. Holy poo poo I honestly didn't even imagine that anyone would do that, I'm kinda stunned right now.