Fallout 4: Power Armored Garbage Farmers

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KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

SunAndSpring posted:

I am sad they will never do this.

Wub-wub!

# ¿ Jun 4, 2015 01:37

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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 03:31

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

Yaos posted:

Information about Fallout 4 was leaked 11 months ago and it turns out the leak was true. It's really long so don't be afraid of splitting your pants by going to Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/28v2dn/i_played_fallout_4/

She does say no assets are reused, and it's pretty obvious they are reused in the trailer, so maybe she's a really good liar?

Edit: OML, read the comments, everybody ripped the post apart and really hammered on the things we know are true now.

This thing also talks about 360 and PS3 versions being released a year after the 'next gen' version on the old engine too, sure that that makes sense. Totally. Developing them at the same time even!

# ¿ Jun 4, 2015 09:38

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

After that presentation I'm excited about Fallout 4.

I'm sure it will be junky and weird when it comes out so whatever.

# ¿ Jun 15, 2015 04:20

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

Darth Windu posted:

No. It's going to be bad. I mean, unless you are okay with getting more Fallout 3 on The Playstation and Xbox New Generation, in which case you will probably be happy but you have increidbly low standards.

My standards

:negative:

# ¿ Jun 15, 2015 04:31

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

Darth Windu posted:

Check it, it's this big ole plastic thing you can strap to your arm...EXCEPT IT HOLDS YOUR SMART PHONE!!!!

It was admitted that second screen gimmicks are dumb so that thing is a ok. They know it's dumb.

# ¿ Jun 15, 2015 04:36

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

Fulchrum posted:

So has there been any talk by Bethesda about armoring up that dog? Cause I swear to crap, if there is one thing I truly despise in Bethesda games or any kind of open world RPG, its babysitting weak player companions and being unable to make them stronger. I don't want a game long escort quest, I want to outfit my dog with a mind controlled laser turret and 3 inch thick plate steel, and then send him back to my settlement when I'm deep in the belly of a vault to go and store all the amazing stuff we found while I stay and find more.

Also I want to be able to make it look like a beagle.

That dog is going to be invincible. If there isn't Doggie Power Armor DLC though I'll be real surprised.

# ¿ Jun 15, 2015 09:31

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

crawlkill posted:

if you don't feel the need to understand your character, you may find yourself at odds with a lot of RPG people. relating is another thing, of course, but that's easiest to say when you've never been put in a position of strong non-relatability.

Motherfucker no human alive can relate to you

# ¿ Jun 15, 2015 09:37

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

I read Twilight.

Ask me about being a tween vampire in highschool I know allllll about it

# ¿ Jul 6, 2015 05:07

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

JackBadass posted:

What's it like being a tween vampire in highschool?

I don't know poo poo about it because you can't learn nuances and feel of a place by reading a book you moron

# ¿ Jul 6, 2015 05:09

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

JackBadass posted:

Guess we don't have any idea what the old west was like then, or colonial times. Oh well.

When you have a long unbroken cultural chain to places sure it's easy to have ideas. What we (you and I) don't know is what it would be like to wake up and spend a day in the colonial times or the old west, no. Just surface details and aspects about the culture that we chose to remember. Throw in a cataclysmic, civilization-destroying event then you might lose a lot of the details along with your ~ideas~.

# ¿ Jul 6, 2015 05:19

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

JackBadass posted:

If only the in game universe had some way of explaining that unbroken link. Like, underground safes, but for people...

Sorry guy but culture does not stop developing for any amount of time, let alone 200-300 years. A thousand people go into a vault for 200 years and a different culture with their own taboos, slang terms, mannerisms and developments come out. That poo poo happens on the daily.

# ¿ Jul 6, 2015 05:30

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

Funky Valentine posted:

If you're wondering how culture advances and morphs
And other sociological facts
Just repeat to yourself
It's just a game
I should really just relax

I'm just bitter because for a long time Tactics was the 'worst' Fallout. Tactics was (maybe still is) my favorite Fallout game, because it was my first (and also my friends and I would get together for LAN parties playing it) and when I was young I'd talk about it and jerks who played the ~real~ Fallouts picked on me

JackBadass posted:

If 200 years of evolving culture were enough to wipe out those things, Texas wouldn't exist anymore.

Your head is a neutron star wedged in the singularity of your butt

# ¿ Jul 6, 2015 05:33

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

Funky Valentine posted:

Wait, this changed at some point? Did Brotherhood of Steel win the neck-and-neck race?

# ¿ Jul 6, 2015 05:39

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

Rutibex posted:

They where right to pick on you, Fallout Tactics sucks.

Lest we forget

Cojawfee posted:

Like how Road Rash 64 was my only road rash game and I loved it. Yet it appears to be "the worst road rash" and people pretend it doesn't exist.

Yeah but Road Rash 64 DOES suck a big ol' fatty and you should be ashamed to enjoy such trash lmao get a load of this guy enjoying noted bad game forever Road Rash 64

JackBadass posted:

More like Diaper Rash 69. Know what I mean?

# ¿ Jul 6, 2015 06:37

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

The Kins posted:

Bethesda put up a blog post detailing their plans for post-launch content

Here are the cliffs notes if you don't care to click:
- Free Updates, similar to Skyrim (which added mounted combat and extra visual flair after launch)
- Creation Kit coming early next year, as always.
- DLC starting early next year, with a $30 season pass that'll cover everything. They aren't sure what it'll entail though, since they're still making the actual game.

The line about how these mods are available for Xbone and eventually PS4 give me pause, because modding previous Bethesda games and how it works seems absolutely impossible on a console, and makes me wonder if that ties into the expected retry on paid mods. They didn't mention the mods would be free, just the updates :v:

# ¿ Sep 9, 2015 16:32

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

I thoroughly enjoyed Mad Max and I really, REALLY doubt Bethesda's ability to out-post-apocalypse Mad Max. Somehow Avalanche made sand varied, beautiful and memorable.

sand

# ¿ Sep 10, 2015 06:18

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

Inverness posted:

Has there been any information about Fallout 4 supporting the Oculus Rift?

The Rift is supposedly scheduled for a Q1 2016 release.

No way in hell it gets official support. First person games are going to be among the last games VR will tackle (if at all) because they have to be remade specifically for VR.
Games where you sit in a thing work well, strategy games work well, first person shooters make people sick. Taking a game that works on a TV / monitor and kludging in VR support never works well either.
Then you have textures and model fidelity and engine performance and all sorts of other VR specific stuff. Someone will absolutely make it work with the Oculus and Vive but it's going to be gimmicky.

# ¿ Sep 12, 2015 20:39

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

steinrokkan posted:

How do you even play a strategy game on a VR system, and why bother with VR if you can't play the one logical genre that fits it (FPS)

You play strategy games like you are an eye in the sky. Lean in, look around, fly around taking it all in. The stereoscopic part about VR is the 'wow' factor and it works insanely well with an RTS type game. The upshot is your brain is ok with this.
FPS are a problem because it's so convincing that your brain has real trouble with sitting down when it thinks you should be running. That and the way we make fps right now isn't realistic at all. Nobody runs and jumps around like fps characters do, nobody holds a gun on the side of their face and nobody has their head locked to the movements of their hands like characters do in FPSs (Arma being an exception).
You can't just slap VR on a game and have it work well, it's a whole new thing you have to make work.

# ¿ Sep 12, 2015 21:03

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

Bethesda is the same studio that changed the cannon version of the Imperial Capital from a weird hellacious Roman jungle to Fantasy temperate vanilla stereotype in Oblivion. They will never go anywhere in Fallout that isn't sandy dead tree zone. The original Fallout was this thus all Fallouts will be this. They can't help it.

# ¿ Sep 15, 2015 21:52

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

Yaos posted:

That's how they've always done it. Skyrim and Oblivion had that one gameplay demo and that was it. I can't even remember what the demo for Fallout 3 and New Vega were.

People were talking about how it makes no sense that Fallout still looks like it's right after the bombs dropped but it's 200 years later, after I heard that Fallout is inspired by Mad Max it all makes sense. As far as we know, it's the same Max in all the movies. He was a cop before the nukes came down, yet just a few years later the entire planet is a desert and all of the buildings have completely vanished. People that should have been kids when he was a cop somehow don't remember anything before the nukes, and even people older than him somehow don't remember it either. I don't think Max remembers any of it either.

In Fallout it's the opposite, it's 200 years later and everybody acts like the bombs just dropped. There actually are people that were around before they dropped, and everything looks more like it was abandoned rather than had nuked dropped on them.

Mad Max's universe is intentionally vague though, they don't mention specifics, and up until Fury Road it wasn't explicitly stated that nukes had anything to do with it. The movies themselves can't all be joined up in any chronological line even because they are all over the place and they are better for it. They also don't mention anything about other nations or countries either, so we don't know what Europe or China or Africa or the Americas are doing in the Mad Max universe.

Fallout by contrast has taken up it's original look in the original games as a part of it's identity. I really don't think it's a conscious choice anyone is making, it's just has to look Fallout, which means sand, dead trees, Nuka-Cola and wowee-zowee ray guns. It's also Bethesda so it's easy to just assume they are incapable of taking the look of Fallout anywhere new.

# ¿ Sep 16, 2015 19:35

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

Yaos posted:

Nope, they can be joined up in a chronological line. http://madmax.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_events

This wiki thing is real old, and claims that the nuclear apocalypse happened before Road Warrior? Sounds pretty suspect to me.

There is also Miller's words themselves:

George Miller posted:

I like to call it a revisit...If you put a gun to my head, I�d say after Thunderdome, but it�s very loose. I can�t even work out the chronology of the first, second and third, let alone the fourth thirty years later.

The only reason I bothered to say you can't organize them is because George himself says he can't and to not really bother since it's just legend story things.

Azhais posted:

Beyond Thunderdome had nukes in their lore?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23SVHUPrUJ4&t=45s

I stand corrected but to be fair it's a cave painting and kids making explosion noises rather than anyone saying 'nuclear'. Also everything after the actual 'thunderdome' sequence in the third movie is god-awful which makes sense since Miller dropped out.

# ¿ Sep 16, 2015 22:33

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

Fallout is alternate history where LEDs were never invented and people still wore hats. All bets are off in terms of 'realistic warhead numbers'.

# ¿ Sep 17, 2015 00:43

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

shield button was the spell button in oblivion and morrowind are you sure you aren't talking about daggerfall

There wasn't a shield button in Morrowind was there? It was where you'd have a shield and sometimes it would automatically block. It was totally passive. I might be wrong as its been a long time since Morrowind.

# ¿ Sep 19, 2015 17:19

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

xf86enodev posted:

Have they said anything about PVP servers, yet?

PVP servers? For Fallout 4?
:confused:

# ¿ Sep 20, 2015 01:06

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

the great deceiver posted:

Can't wait to play this game on my PS4 with a controller. Hope they dumb it down enough for me at the expense of all the crybaby nerd PC players

I can't wait to get it on the PC and put ~~horse vaginas~~ UI fixes on everything

# ¿ Sep 20, 2015 02:11

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

steinrokkan posted:

Yeah, we should critique media works only by the measure of how profitable they end up being.

You can critique it all you want but the immediate and driving force behind 'success' is money made.

# ¿ Sep 24, 2015 07:42

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

Peztopiary posted:

Watch the LGBT dialogue be someone hitting on you and then you patiently explaining you have a husbando/waifu and offering to pray for them.

Wastelander Man posted:

Hey there partner, may I buy you a drink? Let's get to know each other~

John Fallout posted:

You loving suck. You have a small dick, and your dick smells. Stop posting and die.

# ¿ Sep 25, 2015 05:53

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

The reason Bethesda games feel like Bethesda games is because of Bethesda. hth

# ¿ Nov 2, 2015 21:28

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

frajaq posted:

Actual good leaks this time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef1-_Fsj0Do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocNZM8EgwVI

watch it before Todd's death squad gets to it in a few seconds

good dog

# ¿ Nov 3, 2015 06:33

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

Geoff Zahn posted:

The only meltdown I'll be having is the ones I'll perform with a sweet laser rifle

I do wish we could get the melt animation from the original fallouts

# ¿ Nov 5, 2015 20:19

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

Does having the hunting rifle chambered for .50 make it considered a heavy weapon? I have the perk that ups non-automatic rifle damage and I can't seem to do near the damage I would do if I use it when it's chambered for .308.

# ¿ Nov 13, 2015 05:31

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

Lady Naga posted:

I just enjoy fastforwarding through all the dialogue with my character awkwardly going "mhm. yeah. right? mhm." through peoples' emotional stories and problems with zero repercussions.

I also feel like I shouldn't like Piper nearly as much as I do but something about her calling me 'Blue' is really endearing

lmao I was just about to say that.

Cait spoiler:
She had started "admiring" me and wanted to talk to me, I started it, hosed up and reloaded before she had the talk, making me have to do it all again. I just kept breezin' through her entire hosed up life story and my guy goes "uh huh, yep. Preach it brother" as she pours her life out :lol:

# ¿ Nov 13, 2015 09:47

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

When one of the scientist types told me a thing and I asked about it, and she said "Oh it would be over your head" and my guy just took it. I had an intelligence of 10, BASE. Sure I'm smarter than most people in the world but everyone talks to me like I'm some dullard white dude from future 50s America. I didn't even get a sarcastic/rear end in a top hat/nice/no dialog response, I got nothing. A p. big bummer really, but that's just a single thing. Fallout 4 is really fantastic and as I play it I'm seeing all these hooks for modders, just sitting on the surface waiting to be modded to hell and back.

Fallout 4 is going to be Skyrim in it's modding community and free content that just torrentially pours from it and its going to OWN.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2015 18:23

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

Fallout 4 is going to make over a billion dollars by itself and it will do it really quickly.

lmao

# ¿ Nov 19, 2015 11:32

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

The first mod I downloaded was one to strip the level requirements off of perks. The system is much nicer to deal with like this.

Now we just gotta wait for the modders to come in and fix everything, like how you always will wear glasses or hats because they up your attributes or the half assed inventory system or the lack of weapon chassis or the base building mechanic.
The upshot to the half-assed-ness of Fallout 4 is the hard part for modders is already done. They don't have to add in so much functionality since it's already there, just needs hella refinement.

# ¿ Nov 22, 2015 11:03

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

freedom trail

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTznNayUC8c

# ¿ Nov 23, 2015 23:16

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

Zombies' Downfall posted:

Hell yeah it is. It's one of the pieces of clothing you can load up with ballistic mesh, too; combined with its base ballistic/physical defense of 50 you can actually get really good defense out of it.

On that note, it's pretty weird and arbitrary which clothing you can armor up at the bench and which you can't. I assume it's got something to do with armor - like the reason I can't armor my Road Leathers is that you can wear regular armor breastplates over them - but that's inconsistent, the sequin gowns for example allow you to wear normal armor on your arms and can be armored up.

We've got a modding thread already going and the modding community for Fallout 4 is moving at light speed.

E. unless you are on console then it can't be helped. The sole reason to get Bethesda games is the mods, they aren't strong enough to stick around as long as they do without mods.

# ¿ Nov 23, 2015 23:21

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

Turns out if you sneak around the BOS airship and kill non-uniques stealthily you are still allied with them. The moment you kill someone named however you get marked hostile.

Also you can get infinite fusion cores if you yank them out of the patrolling power armor dudes. You sneak steal their core, they hop out and then hop right back in and if you check their inventory again they'll suddenly have another core. You can keep doing this.

# ¿ Nov 25, 2015 11:05

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

Bethesda prepares for killable kids in their games, they have death sounds and also gib properly. It's just a flag check. It's also required to kill everyone on the prydwen and being able to loot it.

Even without killable children you still can and probably will murder children in the vanilla game. You can't escape it so easily :negative:

# ¿ Nov 25, 2015 18:01

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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 03:31

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

Earwicker posted:

what are you even talking about? I'm saying that complaining about being unable to kill children because of "realism" is dumb because the game isn't about realism in the first place.

I'm not dismissing complaints about craft or internal consistency, which are certainly valid complaints, but a game doesn't need killable children to have those.

It would require Bethesda to have a whole lot more tact tho

# ¿ Nov 25, 2015 18:13

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