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AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

of a full load.



Jerusalem posted:

This beautiful show :allears:




If they released a still from that as a poster, I'd buy it and frame it in a heartbeat. What a beautiful shot.

That was an amazing shot.

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Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
I still don't get why Bedelia went with him to Europe and is just now regretting that she traveled to another continent with a cannibalistic serial killer. Can somebody refresh me on what happened in season 2 that might explain that decision?

BreakAtmo
May 16, 2009

A strange episode, and Fuller is a monster for not picking up from the cliffhanger. But we still love him. Hannibal's black comedy really is the marinade in the smoked leg.

And on that subject.

“You're not dead yet, Abel. You still have to eat."
“Well, I'll have the chicken, then."
“Tastes of human, sir."

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Henchman of Santa posted:

I still don't get why Bedelia went with him to Europe and is just now regretting that she traveled to another continent with a cannibalistic serial killer. Can somebody refresh me on what happened in season 2 that might explain that decision?

She's been brainwashed, more than likely, as evidenced by her comment about believing she had full control of her own actions that day. The episode was like an odd time warp where Hannibal takes his brainwashed Clarice from the end of the book on his Italian adventures from the beginning of it.

BreakAtmo
May 16, 2009

esperterra posted:

She's been brainwashed, more than likely, as evidenced by her comment about believing she had full control of her own actions that day. The episode was like an odd time warp where Hannibal takes his brainwashed Clarice from the end of the book on his Italian adventures from the beginning of it.

The A/V Club review went into some detail on how Hannibal has a major psychological hold over her, it's quite interesting.

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

Boooooshkalohhh

Henchman of Santa posted:

I still don't get why Bedelia went with him to Europe and is just now regretting that she traveled to another continent with a cannibalistic serial killer. Can somebody refresh me on what happened in season 2 that might explain that decision?

Bedelia, like Will, is Extremely hosed Up.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




BreakAtmo posted:

The A/V Club review went into some detail on how Hannibal has a major psychological hold over her, it's quite interesting.

I'm excited to see the ways in which she fights back and stays a 'step ahead' of Hannibal at times, as Fuller mentioned will happen. It's interesting how the minds Hannibal fucks with for companionship are often the ones intelligent enough to fight back. Obviously his search is for an equal, but I wonder how much of it is knowing and wanting that risk he takes-- the danger it could be turned on him, especially if he reveals too much of what is beneath his person suit.

NoEyedSquareGuy
Mar 16, 2009

Just because Liquor's dead, doesn't mean you can just roll this bitch all over town with "The Freedoms."

Is there some special effect going on in this shot? It looks like they brightened the picture of Satan more than what you would see just from the projector shining the light on Hannibal's face.

hope and vaseline
Feb 13, 2001

You're seeing it from Bedelia's point of view, which is the turning point in the episode that convinces her to pack her poo poo and get going. It's almost certainly manipulated as Hannibal seems to fade into the image.

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT

College Slice

NoEyedSquareGuy posted:

Is there some special effect going on in this shot?

Yeah, it's a composite shot that fades the background shot into the foreground so Mikkelsen's face appears to become Lucifer.

This episode also hosed around with aspect ratios as a signal to which time period a particular part of the story was set (as well as the less subtle black and white).

Slamhound
Mar 27, 2010
I had cooled a bit on the show as last season progressed, but I loved that premiere.

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

of a full load.



InfiniteZero posted:

Yeah, it's a composite shot that fades the background shot into the foreground so Mikkelsen's face appears to become Lucifer.


I was wondering how they did that, I didn't think of a composite shot. I thought they might have had a light on Mads' face and dimmed it to allow Satan to take over.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
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Soiled Meat
Here is the poisonous, insidious influence of Hannibal on his lovers.

sector_corrector
Jan 18, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

Steve Yun posted:

Here is the poisonous, insidious influence of Hannibal on his lovers.



Where's Will?

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
lovers ladyfriends

Astrofig
Oct 26, 2009
For Will just show the Willdigo birth scene. Also, apparently on this site 'Willdigo' is recognized as a valid word.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Was that Alana in the preview for next week? It went by too fast and I couldn't tell if that was that person or not. I've been staying away from spoilers so I have no idea who survived the finale from last season.

Beefed Owl
Sep 13, 2007

Come at me scrub-lord I'm ripped!

ruddiger posted:

Was that Alana in the preview for next week? It went by too fast and I couldn't tell if that was that person or not. I've been staying away from spoilers so I have no idea who survived the finale from last season.

Yeah, it is pretty obvious Will, Alana and Jack (and even Chilton!) survived based upon the preview.

After re-watching this episode I am really blown away at how well Gillian sells her character's fear without saying a word. Very well done.

That premiere kicked rear end.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
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Soiled Meat


Hannibanquet:
- seared foie gras with warm figs, arugula salad with pomegranate and balsamic vinegar
- short rib cooked sous vide for 72 hours then broiled, broiled sous vide carrots in butter glaze
- lomo saltado (duck fat fried potatoes off camera)
- pig's blood ice cream
- carbonated clarified watermelon juice

Pyzza Rouge
Jun 25, 2011

La Mano de Dios

I had forgotten how batshit insane Hannibal's sound design is. Gonna enjoy getting blasted out of my mind every week and just listening :)

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
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Soiled Meat

Rabbit Hill
Mar 11, 2009

God knows what lives in me in place of me.
Grimey Drawer

TurboFlamingChicken posted:


After re-watching this episode I am really blown away at how well Gillian sells her character's fear without saying a word. Very well done.


Both she and Mads (and Hugh, for that matter) have such awe-inspiring command of their facial expressions. One of the things I love best about watching the show is.....I don't know how to explain this clearly, but you'll probably get my meaning....there is so much significance in the tiniest detail, it's like your brain is literally partaking in an hour-long feast as you watch, just gorging like a pig on all the information flying at you through your eyes and ears. Your brain is in a continuous state of feeding. Just watching the actors' faces, there's a fuckton of character information in the smallest twitch of the smallest muscle.

Like here --

Jerusalem posted:

This beautiful show :allears:


Their expressions would look blank to someone who's never watched the show, but we can look at that gif and see all the little bit of tension in their faces and recognize it for the big Oh poo poo moment that it was.

Also, who can possibly forget the iconic moment from S1 where Hannibal walks into Will's lecture hall as he's talking about the Chesapeake Ripper and for a fraction of a second, the tiniest ghost of a smile appears in his eyes, and it says everything you ever needed to know about him?

I think that was the moment the show went from "I really like this show!" to ":worship::tviv::worship:" for me.

AbstractNapper
Jun 5, 2011

I can help

Brock Samson posted:

Yeah, she killed him for ______ reason (crazyness), shoved tongue down to say he attacked her and choked of his own accord.

Why was I under the impression that that Hannibal had somehow convinced that guy (Quinto) to attack/ kill Bedelia (or maybe she was under that impression also and maybe that's why she attacked first ? ). Was that not a thing that was mention or heavily implied in the show and I imagined it?

Astrofig
Oct 26, 2009

AbstractNapper posted:

Why was I under the impression that that Hannibal had somehow convinced that guy (Quinto) to attack/ kill Bedelia (or maybe she was under that impression also and maybe that's why she attacked first ? ). Was that not a thing that was mention or heavily implied in the show and I imagined it?

The way she said to him, 'He was your patient before he was mine,' led me to think she was accusing him of exactly that.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

AbstractNapper posted:

Why was I under the impression that that Hannibal had somehow convinced that guy (Quinto) to attack/ kill Bedelia (or maybe she was under that impression also and maybe that's why she attacked first ? ). Was that not a thing that was mention or heavily implied in the show and I imagined it?

I really need to watch this episode at least once more. It hypnotized me the first time and I feel I missed some important details.

AbstractNapper
Jun 5, 2011

I can help
Yeah, they are riding hard on the vibe of dream-like/ hypnotizing direction for the episodes.

I loved the episode by the way (though I did feel confused about being sick to my stomach and enjoying the imagery and food porn- as intended ). Definitely my idea of great television.

Also,
- Is it that kind of party?
- It's not that kind of party.
- No, it really isn't.

I really like that the dialogues in the series seem to go to unexpected directions, thankfully not in a way that is forced or disconnected from what is going on. This is not the best example of this - it's more an example of the series humor. But it did catch me by surprise.

AbstractNapper fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Jun 5, 2015

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
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Soiled Meat
Music:

Piano playing while Hannibal and Anthony first meet: unknown

Hannibal cooks Dr Fell's liver: Don Pasquale - Sogno Soave E Casto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4Q0qiPq6uA

Hannibal brings out Dr Gideon's right leg: Debussy - Prelude to the Afternoon of a Fawn L.86
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8pylC67TpQ

Waltz: Dvorak - Serenade for Strings op 22 b52 II: Tempo di valse
Serenade für Streicher, Op. 22, B. 52: II. Tempo di valse

Bedelia and Hannibal talk in apartment: unknown

Hannibal makes oysters: Pappi Coscicato & Antonello Paliotti - Lulu
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lulu/dp/B0028GGGOS

Escargot dinner with Dr Gideon: Ravel: Pavane for a Dead Princess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKkeDqJBlK8

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
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Soiled Meat

AbstractNapper posted:

- Is it that kind of party?
- It's not that kind of party.
- No, it really isn't.

My favorite part about this is Hannibal's face.

Anthony: oh, Romans fed this stuff to animals to make them taste better

Hannibal: :3:

Bedelia :barf:

Bedelia blurts out that Hannibal is going to eat her as a cry for help.

Hannibal :mmmhmm:

Anthony misunderstands and thinks she means cunnilingus.

Bedelia :cripes:

Hannibal :cawg:

Bedelia :shepicide:

Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Jun 5, 2015

showbiz_liz
Jun 2, 2008

Steve Yun posted:

Bedelia blurts out that Hannibal is going to eat her as a cry for help.

Oh, no, I think she was absolutely in on the joke. She didn't know about the whole ancient Romans acorn/oyster thing but I thought her reaction to finding out was more along the lines of "ugh loving Hannibal" than terror, and the oral sex joke was 100% deliberate. I mean, it's not like she doesn't already know he could eat her at any time.

NoEyedSquareGuy
Mar 16, 2009

Just because Liquor's dead, doesn't mean you can just roll this bitch all over town with "The Freedoms."

AbstractNapper posted:

Also,
- Is it that kind of party?
- It's not that kind of party.
- No, it really isn't.

Really unfortunate that the guy missed out on a Hannibal/Bedelia threesome. Also the dying thing, I guess.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
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Soiled Meat
Little history lesson: The opera that plays as Hannibal kills Dr Fell is Don Pasquale.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Pasquale

quote:

completed largely by Giovanni Ruffini as well as the composer. It was based on a libretto by Angelo Anelli for Stefano Pavesi's opera Ser Marcantonio written in 1810[1] but, on the published libretto, the author appears as "M.A."

Donizetti so dominated the preparation of the libretto that Ruffini refused to allow his name to be put on the score. This resulted in confusion over the identity of the librettist for more than half a century,[2] but as Herbert Weinstock establishes, it was largely Ruffini's work and, in withholding his name from it as librettist, "Donizetti or Accursi may have thought that, lacking Ruffini's name, the authorship might as well be assigned to Accursi's initials as to a pseudonym".

So, someone whose work was accredited to another. A fitting theme song for Hannibal killing Dr Fell and taking over his identity.

seravid
Apr 21, 2010

Let me tell you of the world I used to know

AFewBricksShy posted:

If they released a still from that as a poster, I'd buy it and frame it in a heartbeat. What a beautiful shot.

Get your wallet.

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

seravid posted:

Get your wallet.



Remove the June 4 and hannibal and it's a poster. Right now it's an advertisement.

SilentChaz
Oct 5, 2011

Sorry, I'm quite busy at the moment.

Those of us who love Chilton will have to wait until episode four to see everyone's other favorite doctor. According to Bryan Fuller.

He also revealed what Beverly saw in Hannibal's basement.

SilentChaz fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Jun 5, 2015

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
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Soiled Meat

Waltzing Along posted:

Remove the June 4 and hannibal and it's a poster. Right now it's an advertisement.

joedevola
Sep 11, 2004

worst song, played on ugliest guitar

At 28 minutes it really sounds like Suicide, the minimalist electronic/punk band.

Compare it to one of their songs...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsL6tMM5hJg

There was also some Goblin-esque Italian prog-rock stuff. Great music.

seravid
Apr 21, 2010

Let me tell you of the world I used to know

Waltzing Along posted:

Remove the June 4 and hannibal and it's a poster. Right now it's an advertisement.

Sure thing, boss.




Steve Yun posted:

[a shameful crop]

Pfffffft, amateur.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
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Soiled Meat
Talented Mr Ripley reference: not only is he taking someone else's identity, but he beats someone over the head with a white marble bust to keep them from talking.

In Talented Mr Ripley, he used Hadrian, Hannibal uses Aristotle.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

♪ Come with me, and you'll be, in a world of pure imagination. ♪

Steve Yun posted:

Talented Mr Ripley reference: not only is he taking someone else's identity, but he beats someone over the head with a white marble bust to keep them from talking.

In Talented Mr Ripley, he used Hadrian, Hannibal uses Aristotle.

I really did get a serious Freddie Miles vibe from Tom Wisdom, if only Hannibal had carried his corpse outside and held a conversation with him. :allears:

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Noirex
May 30, 2006

I was wrecking my brain trying to figure out why Tom Wisdom looked so familiar and finally remembered he plays the Archangel Micheal on Dominion. Which in a show that is arguably about Lucifer is sort of fitting I suppose.

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