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Timby
Dec 23, 2006

by vyelkin

EmmyOk posted:

Fuller took it well

He had to know this was coming, considering him cramming Red Dragon into the back half of this season instead of it being all of season 4 as he originally intended.

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Timby
Dec 23, 2006

by vyelkin

BreakAtmo posted:

Pretty sure he said that was because the material wasn't enough for 2 whole seasons. I mean, it might have been a smokescreen, but it might not have, too.

Back when the show started, Fuller said his original plan was to do Red Dragon in 4, Silence of the Lambs in 5 if they ever got the rights from MGM, and then a wrap-up in season 6. That was the original road map, anyway.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

by vyelkin

Deakul posted:

I thought Red Dragon was too sanitized, just something about it felt like the director didn't know how far to take it and opted for making it play out as a super fast paced flashy summer movie.

Basically because Brett Ratner has no style of his own, he only mimics others. With Red Dragon, he was doing his best to emulate what Demme did with Silence of the Lambs; X-Men: The Last Stand was a look-and-feel copy of X2; The Family Man is Ratner trying to be Capra so hard that it hurts; After the Sunset is trying to do what Soderbergh did with Ocean's Eleven ... so on and so forth.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

by vyelkin

showbiz_liz posted:

Here's another link from Forbes - mostly it's the same info as the other two, but it's new and more credible-seeming

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

by vyelkin

hard counter posted:

I heard network tv in general has taken a beating this year. Like a 20% drop across the boards in most cases.

Is there any truth to that?

TV in general, both broadcast and cable, has taken a beating for the last several years.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

by vyelkin

Soylentbits posted:

CBS can get their Clarice Starling show started and just put Fuller on.

I think, at least as of like two years ago, it was Lifetime of all channels that was looking at doing a Clarice Starling series.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

by vyelkin

Josh Lyman posted:

If NBC was only contributing $180,000 and episode, surely someone can put up the $2.5 million difference for mother season. Maybe Mark Cuban since he has a network.

A network like 5 percent of cable subscribers get.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

by vyelkin

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

Plus the season's not done yet and who knows what they'll do with the Red Dragon story, and especially the ending.

Well, the trailer for the second half had Hannibal saying the "Save yourself. Kill them all" dialogue from Red Dragon, so they're almost certainly going to a dark place with the ending.

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Timby
Dec 23, 2006

by vyelkin

PassTheRemote posted:

I'd argue that Brian Cox was a better Hannibal in Manhunter than Hopkins in Red Dragon.

That's not an argument at all; Hopkins was just hamming it up to 11 in Red Dragon (he had even stopped bothering to do his Audrey Hepburn voice for Lecter).

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