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Old Doggy Bastard
Dec 18, 2008

Steve Yun posted:

Strangely enough, it feels like Chilton got the least mental damage out of all of them.

I took it that although he has now been disbowled and disfigured that Hannibal was making a point that Chilton is, always has been, and always will be a gutless Quasimodo wanting to be more. The opening is one of my favorite of any episode so far and man, maybe it is Wilmington Delaware pride that has be loving Raśl Esparza's performance, but I'm loving it.

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Old Doggy Bastard
Dec 18, 2008

Verisimilidude posted:

I hate that this is one of those shows where everyone talks in whispers but then the music and bass is really loud so I have to constantly lower and raise the volume.

I love how darkly lit this show is aside from the fact I have to turn off every bit of lighting in the room to watch this show- between the volume and the lighting this show is basically interactive media.

Old Doggy Bastard
Dec 18, 2008

Steve Yun posted:

However, I do know that bad smells travel at about 3 mph through the air, so if you can walk faster than that you can sneak up on somebody before they smell you. It's the same principle by which supersonic fighter jets sneak up on targets

At this point I would not be phased if you work for the show as Heightened Senses Continuity Wrangler.

Bown posted:

If you're not watching this show with all the lights off you're loving up

I get scared of monsters.

Old Doggy Bastard
Dec 18, 2008

Maybe this is for the best- the show has always been about Hannibal and Will's relationship so if the logical exit to Will is at the end of this season (which I hope is true) then this show may have a nice beginning, middle, and end even if we could all watch it for five more seasons.

I just hope it ends gracefully and now on a cliff hangar.

Old Doggy Bastard
Dec 18, 2008

Jerusalem posted:

Verger is such an amazing irredeemable rear end in a top hat.

He accepted Jesus, bro.

Old Doggy Bastard
Dec 18, 2008

Thanks Fuller, nothing like watching strange lesbian trippy sex scenes next to my mother.

Old Doggy Bastard
Dec 18, 2008

Is he feeding Will his brain?

Old Doggy Bastard
Dec 18, 2008

mcbexx posted:

How rude.

The rude should be eaten.

Old Doggy Bastard
Dec 18, 2008

Can't believe the show is over, nothing to do now but re-watch it all again and see how the various murderers of the show stack up.

Garret Hobbs
Minnesota Shrike
  • Arguably one of the most important characters that we never actually we to see do much killing, I think he served his role well.
  • The similarity between him and Will, being men that like to work with their hands, and the differences between them, fishing and hunting, work really well to drive home the sense that Will relates to him way too much but is an honestly different kind of person.

Eldon Stammets
Fungus Guy
  • Really this episode worked to introduce Freddie Lounds more than anything, he gets points for what is the first(?) cop headshot in the series.
  • Fungus guy has inspired some really cool artwork and a call back to him in the next episode during Abigail's drug trip would have been nice.

Unnamed Mother Figure
Unnamed Mother Figure
  • Has no name that I can find, neat detail.
  • Honestly a forgettable character in my opinion, she seemed underutilized and barely interacts with Will and Hannibal.

Elliot Budish
Angel-maker
  • Another character that was cool but never really gets a standoff or confrontation with Will or Hannibal.
  • Will's head on fire is great foreshadowing and as someone with a brain infection this makes me happy. I now use "my brain's on fire" to explain too many things.

Dr. Abel Gideon
The Chesapeake Ripoff
  • I swear he comes up in the show so often because everyone wanted a reason to hangout with Eddie Izzard.
  • I'm a bit foggy on the details but why does he claim credit for Hannibal's murders?
  • The clay leg dish is one of my all time favorite moments in the show.

Devon Silvestri
Organ Donor (By Proxy)
  • I completely forget this guy.

Tobias Budge
Cello Bro
  • One of the more trippy and surreal murder styles that the show has, him being a patient of Hannibal helps eventually lend credibility to the FBI raising an eyebrow at the number of Hannibal's patients who have strange circumstances around them.

Larry Wells
Totem Pole Killer
  • Visually interesting but forgettable for me.
  • One of many serial killers that seem like standard police procedural interesting murderers in the show's early season.

Georgia Madchen
Face
  • Cool because of how she sets up the situation with Hannibal and everyone.
  • Cool death, one of the initial total fire deaths on the show.

James Gray
The Muralist
  • Totally not Jame Gumb who has the same initials and skin related killing style.
  • The ease at which Will looks at all the photos of dead people and deduces they are being killed to create a pallet of color has always bothered me.

Katherine Pimms
The Acupuncturist
  • I'm a huge Amanda Plummer fan so even though this killer barely interacted with the cast and felt like a dud I will stand by that she acted the hell out of a weak role.

Matthew Brown
The Orderly
  • Kind of cool but ultimately a bit too convient a character.
  • He is able to capture Hannibal a bit too easily when you look at the trouble other characters have at doing the same later on in the series. This may be because he is set up as a proto-Hannibal.
  • Eerily similar to The Red Dragon with his silencer pistol.

Clark Ingram
Social Worker Sown Up Into a Horse
  • This is probably the point where the show goes full on surreal, same point as Will reaches peak insanity.

Randall Tier
Man-imal
  • Another one of Lecter's former patients.
  • The initial trucker kill scene seemed a little too... animalistic before I realized it was probably from the killer's point of view and was distorted to be artsy because gently caress it everything in this show is.

Mason Verger
Papa's Boy
  • Never actually kills anyone but gets an honorable mention for being so loving cunty.
  • I loving love the way he said "Papa" and he ranks as my all time favorite villain of this show.

Chiyoh
That Girl No One Likes
  • Yeah, no one really likes her though I'm a bit sad she was never mentioned after the time skip because some sort of grounding for the character would have been nice.

Francis Dolarhyde
The Toothfairy
  • Easily gets the most attention, with Gideon right behind him, and serves as a fitting end point to the show.
  • Him as the Great Red Dragon plays into the God/Devil metaphor nicely.

Old Doggy Bastard
Dec 18, 2008

Fog Tripper posted:

Yeah, but look back closely at this ending point in contrast to the other elaborate murders.
"He kills families! (2?)"
Not all that compelling in the grand scheme, yet ridiculous resources are used(wasted?) in order to bring him to... justice? Or something?

All in all Dolarhyde was crap, yet was really over-hyped by the rest of the cast for reasons unknown. Criminal Minds probably would have passed over his file completely.

I'm not quite where you are but feel similar about how big a deal was made about Dolarhyde- we know he has the interesting Red Dragon thing going on and has a lot going for him but there is no reason for everyone to go absolutely psychotic over a guy who has killed two families without much publicly known.

He kills families, and bites them- that is about as much as the media has to work with but then again I'm young enough to not remember any mass serial killer manhunt aside from like the highway sniper so maybe I've yet to live in a time of media hysteria over an interesting killer.

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Old Doggy Bastard
Dec 18, 2008

Wiggy Marie posted:

That brings up one thing that was touched on by Will in one episode: he didn't see any of these scenes "fresh," he saw them days or even weeks after the fact. It was why he needed to visit Hannibal to get in touch with his inner crazy - he didn't have bodies to help get him in the murder zone, so he needed to tap directly into a murderer's head instead.

A lot of guys have trouble preforming without some sort of visual stimuli.

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