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bring back old gbs posted:Yeah the Smart Abbies and the Resistance should have been woven together, but now it's revealed Abbies were there first and know the layout/storm drain system so people with an inside knowledge of the town geography aren't important now. Maybe it will be revealed Muppet got swarmed by those 3 abbies but was saved by the Queen and he is helping them. Probably not though seems like they are dead set on wiping out the entire first season cast. I doubt Ben's coming back, given that he was identified as dead and subsequently buried by his mother outside the wall.
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God, that scene was so awkward. Come on, you guys really couldn't have sprung for him showing up in just one more episode?
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Jul 8, 2016 02:31
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ShakeZula posted:I doubt Ben's coming back, given that he was identified as dead and subsequently buried by his mother outside the wall. That happened? Completely missed it, NOBODY IS SAFE!!!!*
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Jul 8, 2016 02:59
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Great episode. I always saw it as a hole in the plot that they just woke up 2000 years later and had nobody keeping an eye on things. Showing the guy waking up every few years and checking on the outside neatly filled that. I'll miss Megan and her sage hypnotherapist science, and admiration for the little cars in the garages on the town blueprints. 
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Jul 8, 2016 03:22
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This last episode was unusually good. Things got accomplished, we learned about the dude periodically waking up and witnessing the end of everything, which was surprisingly profound in this otherwise goofy rear end show. I was behind a couple episodes because I just couldn't bring myself to watch it, but this last episode actually made me interested again.
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Astroman posted:Great episode. I always saw it as a hole in the plot that they just woke up 2000 years later and had nobody keeping an eye on things. Showing the guy waking up every few years and checking on the outside neatly filled that. What was the deal with him doing those phone calls? There were some big issues with what was going on in each bit, but if you ignore them like usual, it was a great episode and gives a real personality to someone we've barely seen. So now we have, what, 3 likable adults?
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Jul 9, 2016 04:46
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Just gotta put a few bullets in Jason now, thanks.
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Just watched the first season of this and i'm not sure if i care enough to watch the second. It was good for 4 or 5 episodes and fell apart once the mystery got revealed. It's just a crappy sci-fi band of survivors/apocalypse show now and The Walking Dead is already more than enough bad TV in the same vein for me to endure.
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spudsbuckley posted:Just watched the first season of this and i'm not sure if i care enough to watch the second. It's actually getting pretty good after starting out lovely. That's all relative, of course, but there's a few plot points that seem thought out this time.
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Jul 13, 2016 05:18
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Just binge watched the first season in a couple days with my girlfriend and we both have the same sentiment most people seem to here - started off intriguing and strong, peaked with the mid-season reveal (despite being the epitome of "tell don't show" lazy exposition), then immediately went downhill into laughably bad territory. Felt like it was trying to be 3 or 4 shows at once that happened to share characters. Spent way too much time on useless plotlines like the resistance group and barely any on the ones that are apparently actually important, like the First Generation bad kids. I kept getting bothered by how, despite the presence of a heavily armed and trained security team with helicopters and assault rifles, they entrusted the security of the entire town to one dumbass guy. Like, why didn't they send the PMC lookin dudes to gun down the resistance group in the woods as soon as they knew there was a real threat of them blowing up the fence? There was a little hinting that the genius Seldon doctor man was resigned to the town being eventually wiped out anyway so maybe that's why, but that seems like it's giving the writers too much credit. Despite that I'm still probably going to watch season 2 at some point...seems like they go into more detail about the backstory of the apocalypse and the town, which sounds neat. Really felt like a story that would come across much better in book form than television. It did make me feel smart cuz I predicted the big twist after first few episodes though, kudos to them for that... One question I did have that I'm sure as hell not going to re-watch to answer - in the first episode, the glum son kid tells his mom 'everyone has a tell' when they're lying, did that carry through at all? Would be a nice touch if the characters all had a distinct tell when they were lying to someone else (granted most of the lying was obvious enough where that wouldn't even be necessary). my bony fealty fucked around with this message at 08:02 on Jul 13, 2016 |
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my bony fealty posted:One question I did have that I'm sure as hell not going to re-watch to answer - in the first episode, the glum son kid tells his mom 'everyone has a tell' when they're lying, did that carry through at all? The series' tell is that M Night Shyamalan is involved so obviously no it did not
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If you guys want to see this sort of story done right (isolated community post-apocalypse), I'd highly recommend the Silo Saga by Hugh Howey. Excellent writing with great reveals that poo poo all over this show. I haven't read the Wayward Pines book though so maybe it's good.
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Jul 14, 2016 02:43
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Wow this episode was a trainwreck. There were also some real dialog gems: "He's not breathing, is he ok?"
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Jul 14, 2016 02:59
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I was pretty sure Jason was gonna shoot his barren girlfriend in the head for being barren in the Fuhrerbunker.
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The episode felt like they took a bunch of cutting room floor side plots, slapped them in an episode and just had the female abby run around the town to connect them all up. For as tight as the narrative was last week, this was a jumbled mess. The gun standoff scene was so goddamn confusing. These people were standing in the middle of an empty street. The abby was skulking in the treeline tens of yards away. At what point did things get so confused that people got shot accidentally? That scene was HORRIBLY directed. Here was another thing that was sloppy editing-wise. The kids are clearly in school when the lockdown happens as we see them there. But then we have a montage of shots in the town (including the merry go round) and there were a ton of kids in those scenes too. Do those kids just not go to school? Why did the abby go on a town-wide tour when she knew where she needed to go to leave?
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Astroman posted:I was pretty sure Jason was gonna shoot his barren girlfriend in the head for being barren in the Fuhrerbunker. They can finally have the kind of sex that the board game doesn't mention.
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Jul 18, 2016 23:24
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Haha, that's a pretty messed-up reveal.
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Jul 21, 2016 03:52
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That some kind of poo poo right there.
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Jul 21, 2016 10:50
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bring back old gbs posted:Old Boy via Shyamalan I NNNNNOPE'd so hard at that reveal and then starting laughing when that dawned on me.
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I'm not going to lie, I enjoy this series a lot and think it's sad the thread title is so misleading. But man that reveal was so hosed up and I loved it.
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The crazy thing was it was just a total dumb accident--Jason picked her out of a hat to be revived, she had no idea her baby had been frozen, Pilcher was dead when she was revived so nobody could tell her. Possibly Megan knew, but she was so hosed up she'd have probably just rolled with it and smiled creepily. Makes me wonder though if there were any clues beforehand that she wasn't an actual First Generation, and that she had a life before. Of course if she was revived, Jason would have known that. How exactly did he pass her off as First Generation to the rest of his cadre anyway if she popped up post Pilcher?
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Astroman posted:The crazy thing was it was just a total dumb accident--Jason picked her out of a hat to be revived, she had no idea her baby had been frozen, Pilcher was dead when she was revived so nobody could tell her. Possibly Megan knew, but she was so hosed up she'd have probably just rolled with it and smiled creepily. She was openly not First Generation. She brings it up to Jason at dinner one episode when they're talking about Ben. Jason says "He wasn't really First Generation," and she replies, "Neither am I, are you going to put me outside the wall?"
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Astroman posted:I was pretty sure Jason was gonna shoot his barren girlfriend in the head for being barren in the Fuhrerbunker. That's Jason's name for his mother's vagina.
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Haha finally watched the last episode and that was great. This season is a lot better than I ever thought it would be.
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Next week is the finale you guys. I feel kind of weird for wanting a third season now.
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They did a pretty good job of turning it into a whole new show this season. Maybe next year they can expand further and we can see more of the world like The 100 is doing, perhaps find more groups of intelligent survivors. Surely there must be other assholes in bunkers somewhere. Or alternately, everyone goes back to sleep, they wake up in 1000 years and the world is even more different. Either way, they'll have to continue the tradition and slowly kill off most of this season's cast over the first few episodes.
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Astroman posted:Or alternately, everyone goes back to sleep, they wake up in 1000 years and the world is even more different.
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I'd be into this show slowly morping into Marooned in Realtime.
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They'll wake up and an abbie lawyer will be waiting to sue them for the crap that happened to their ancestors.
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I don't understand why they didn't try and use the cryo chambers earlier when they looked like they were going to starve. That seems like a good way to cut down on how much food you need.
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I watched the first 2 episodes of season 2 and wasn't impressed. Should I give it another chance?
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SalTheBard posted:I watched the first 2 episodes of season 2 and wasn't impressed. Should I give it another chance? Depends. What are your views on incest?
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Jul 27, 2016 20:55
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You can skip to episode 7, which has an interesting premise, and get pretty much the same out of it. The only thing you have to know about the episodes inbetween is that any season 1 character you don't see any more has died.
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Overall for a show that I truly thought was not renewed for a second season until like a week before it aired, it was pretty drat good. It had it's goofy moments, but it's better than say Under the Dome or even Falling Skies. If that's any indicator for you. And I watched both those from beginning to end. I'd say it's comparable to The Strain. Not everyone's cup of tea, really stupid at times, but overall fun to watch if you kick back and enjoy the ride. 
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aw poo poo this is getting good, they got an age of empires city going. That shot of 200+ abbys was just all the town mayors? And then they each go rouse up 1000+ guys? town's dead. EDIT: AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA doctor you are the best. Are you alright? "No." bring back old gbs fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Jul 28, 2016 |
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As far as silly sci-fi goes, this show is pretty fun. I hope they get a third season to finish it. Xander stepping out of the car going "I got this" and shooting a molotov cocktail resulting in the holder burning to death, was a great scene. Atreiden fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Jul 28, 2016 |
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Jul 28, 2016 18:15
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Also the Doctor's plan was metal as gently caress, and then whats her face stole it and will probably screw it up.
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I'd kind of like a third season too, honestly. S2 had a rough start and some seriously dumb bits but I liked where it ended overall and there's potentially-interesting territory to explore when people wake up again in another 10K years. In a way a third season might be in sort-of-prequel territory, in that we never got much about originally building the town / getting infrastructure in place / exploring the world. That's way more interesting than the 'life under hitler youth' bent of this season. Main sciency question is about lack of gene pool diversity but whatever. Maybe there are a bunch of backup embryos that got frozen that Pelcher never told anyone about because the writers hadn't thought of it yet. A lot of this is just because I really like post-post apocalypse as a setting and there aren't that many examples of it around.
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