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So how do you keep up with tech as a japan minor? I'm trying to spawn Renaissance, but because of all the stab events it's either sit at -3 stability or have no admin points to develop a province. It felt pretty easy as Kongo to just dump all your points into a province, but with japan if you do that you get slammed by massive rebel stacks. What's the trick?
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Oct 21, 2017 02:12
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THE BAR posted:I wasn't entirely sure how much I needed for the achievement, so I cut off Poland from doing any funny stuff. Georgia on my Mind? If that's not it, then I am utterly mystified.
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Oct 21, 2017 03:20
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it's gotta be master of india
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Oct 21, 2017 03:22
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MuffinsAndPie posted:
Vassals don't take exploration, so if you grabbed them quick enough they very well might not be the one who finally ruins it.
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Oct 21, 2017 05:29
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I am planning on buying this game soon what dlc's should I get with it?
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Oct 21, 2017 07:25
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appropriatemetaphor posted:So how do you keep up with tech as a japan minor? I'm trying to spawn Renaissance, but because of all the stab events it's either sit at -3 stability or have no admin points to develop a province. It felt pretty easy as Kongo to just dump all your points into a province, but with japan if you do that you get slammed by massive rebel stacks. What's the trick? You don't need to seed an institution to keep up with tech, since everyone around you will have the exact same penalty. Seeding an institution when you're not the dominant power in the region actually puts you at a huge disadvantage, because you spend a ton of monarch points, and then all your neighbors get the institution for free when it spreads to them.
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Oct 21, 2017 07:29
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Fister Roboto posted:You don't need to seed an institution to keep up with tech, since everyone around you will have the exact same penalty. Seeding an institution when you're not the dominant power in the region actually puts you at a huge disadvantage, because you spend a ton of monarch points, and then all your neighbors get the institution for free when it spreads to them. I guess there's a balance somewhere? I avoided keeping up with tech the last time I played a japan country, but ended up some insane number of techs behind ming to where I could never catch up. Like I was sitting at ~1200 mana to level, with ming at least 6 tiers above.
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Oct 21, 2017 07:56
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appropriatemetaphor posted:I guess there's a balance somewhere? I avoided keeping up with tech the last time I played a japan country, but ended up some insane number of techs behind ming to where I could never catch up. Like I was sitting at ~1200 mana to level, with ming at least 6 tiers above. Ming are going to be ahead of you anyway, since they'll get the institution from you regardless, and they tech up really fast. It shouldn't matter anyway since it'll be a while before you can put them in their place anyway. It's still probably worth it to seed the institution, just try to do it with mostly admin and diplo points since falling behind in mil tech is the only one that can really hurt you against everyone else. One thing that's helpful for me is to just say "To hell with my monarch points!" and just spend them all at once without thinking about it. It's probably going to pay off, and if it doesn't, it won't hurt you as much as you'd think anyway. You also have to remember that you'll get a mega-province out of it, which is actually really helpful.
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Oct 21, 2017 08:09
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reignonyourparade posted:Vassals don't take exploration, so if you grabbed them quick enough they very well might not be the one who finally ruins it. I am pretty sure I had vassals like Brittany pick exploration before, do you have any confirmation for this?
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Oct 21, 2017 08:26
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AnoHito posted:Ming are going to be ahead of you anyway, since they'll get the institution from you regardless, and they tech up really fast. It shouldn't matter anyway since it'll be a while before you can put them in their place anyway. It's still probably worth it to seed the institution, just try to do it with mostly admin and diplo points since falling behind in mil tech is the only one that can really hurt you against everyone else. Yeah I've got 1 mega province off Renaissance which is dope. I'm at the point where I have all of japan, as Date, should I form Japan? I hear it's better not to because then you can have your own with limit vassal swarm? The one problem is that everyone is a Ming trib so can't attack anyone...if I make myself a tributary, can I still have infinite vassals of my own?
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Oct 21, 2017 08:31
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Tythas posted:I am planning on buying this game soon what dlc's should I get with it? all of them common sense, art of war, and rights of man otherwise
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Oct 21, 2017 08:36
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appropriatemetaphor posted:I guess there's a balance somewhere? I avoided keeping up with tech the last time I played a japan country, but ended up some insane number of techs behind ming to where I could never catch up. Like I was sitting at ~1200 mana to level, with ming at least 6 tiers above. Yeah, eventually you're going to want to seed, but not while you're still a dinky daimyo. It all comes down to priorities, and your first priority as a daimyo is getting beefy and beating up your neighbors. Focus on MIL points for tech, and spend ADM and DIP on development when you can spare it. Definitely don't spend ADM to develop when you're at negative stability, you don't need to seed it that quickly.
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Oct 21, 2017 08:37
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oddium posted:it's gotta be master of india Bingo. Denmark hasn't got a single land warfare or trading NI, so I figured them a perfect match!
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Oct 21, 2017 08:59
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appropriatemetaphor posted:Yeah I've got 1 mega province off Renaissance which is dope. I'm at the point where I have all of japan, as Date, should I form Japan? I hear it's better not to because then you can have your own with limit vassal swarm? Yes, the daimyo mechanics stay the same, even if you're a tributary. And you're probably going to be a tributary for a while (it's the most annoying part of a Japanese campaign, imo). Definitely don't form Japan though. If nothing else, you get to consistently grab free generals from your vassal swarm that are almost guaranteed to have at least one really good one lying around, so no more RNG rolling you exclusively 1/0/5/0. Also, make sure to force Sepuku at every possible opportunity, it really takes the edge off after being forced to give Ming a dozen monarch points every year.
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Oct 21, 2017 08:59
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It would be nice if forming Japan wasn't one of those trap decisions like forming the HRE
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Oct 21, 2017 09:22
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Tythas posted:I am planning on buying this game soon what dlc's should I get with it? I would wait for a sale with most of them unless you want to spend hundreds of dollars on dlc. Or buy one of the bundle versions I guess. I would say "Art of War", "Common Sense" & "Rights of Man" are the essential ones. They all add some really nice core features to all nations. "Wealth of Nations", "The Cossacks", "El Dorado" & "Mandate of Heaven", all have some good features that makes them worth getting in my opinion, except Mandate of Heaven atm, it supposedly makes Ming completely overpowered to the point that it becomes unfun to play in east Asia ( I don't own it, so I don't know how true it is). "Conquest of Paradise" get it if you want to play native Americans or have a random new world instead of the Americas. Personally I haven't used either of the features it add. "Mare Nostrum" adds a couple of okay features, among them Condottieri, so it's an okay dlc to get eventually. "Res Publica" get it if you want to play the dutch republic or other republics. "Third Rome" want to be even more powerful as Russia, then this is the dlc for you. Also adds some new features for other orthodox countries. Again one of the dlc's I've skipped for now. Atreiden fucked around with this message at 11:15 on Oct 21, 2017 |
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Oct 21, 2017 11:00
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Tahirovic posted:I am pretty sure I had vassals like Brittany pick exploration before, do you have any confirmation for this? Well the wiki COULD be out of date but it is here. However my understanding is that if you RELEASE a vassal they start with whatever idea groups they're set to take in their history files up to their admin tech, that might be what you've been seeing?
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That is well possible, I usually release those nations as vassals from a single province instead of force vassalizing, gives more AE but they start with my techs.
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Oct 21, 2017 12:21
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 Wrapping up my Sunset Invasion game. All I have to do is finish annexing my vassal Holland and it's mine. If I keep going I can definitely take England and France before 1821. Aztecs are kind of ridiculous once they get going. They get to keep all their religious reforms, and they get some really nice permanent modifiers too. I think I went a little overboard on military ideas. It made beating up France and the Ottomans really easy, but I wound up spending way too much effort on suppressing rebels because I didn't have religious or humanist ideas.
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Oct 23, 2017 02:16
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How do you integrate vassal in MEIOU How do you even play MEIOU
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Oct 23, 2017 04:56
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Phi230 posted:How do you integrate vassal in MEIOU Open your court menu and go into vassal interactions, I think. It's been a few months since I've touched the mod and I don't know what's changed. Phi230 posted:How do you even play MEIOU 
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Oct 23, 2017 06:57
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In 500 hours I've never done a game as a colonizer where I just completely ignored the Americas and concentrated on Africa/the East Indies. Holy poo poo my Portugal is just printing cash by hoovering up all that trade, especially after I started developing my Indonesian provinces. Really tempted to take plutocratic administration and become a Merchant Republic just to get even more money, but my current heir is 6/5/6 and I don't wanna gently caress that up 
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Oct 23, 2017 07:02
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Republics don't scale well if you get bigger, if you have more than 20 provinces in states you pay -0.1 rt per year per province above that limit. On average your rulers will also have less points than if you were a monarchy. Might be worth it to pick up Plutocratic ideas tough, then just wait for the even that puts you back into a monarchy. Plutocratic ideas are about the best and probably only good thing Republics have left in this game.
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Oct 23, 2017 08:03
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Tahirovic posted:Republics don't scale well if you get bigger, if you have more than 20 provinces in states you pay -0.1 rt per year per province above that limit. On average your rulers will also have less points than if you were a monarchy. The vast majority of my provinces are in trade companies. The only states I have are in Portugal proper.
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Oct 23, 2017 09:11
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Do you put everything in Asia in a trade company? I'm trying to judge if that is the way to go, or keep some out/make states.
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Oct 23, 2017 09:35
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Phi230 posted:How do you integrate vassal in MEIOU Last I played MEIOU when 2.0 was releasing, your vassals had an "integration timer" that you could see by triggering the vassal interaction decision-event, I think? When that timer ended you could begin annexing your vassal the old fashioned way. I cannot imagine that's changed since they've had more important stuff to work on with the pop/economy system, but they're also crazy so maybe they did. quote:How do you even play MEIOU MEIOU is a state of mind
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Oct 23, 2017 09:38
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Rapner posted:Do you put everything in Asia in a trade company? I'm trying to judge if that is the way to go, or keep some out/make states. Every province that I own that can be put into a trade company has been. I was a bit dumb and got too excited about expansion at some point around 100 years ago, taking some inland provinces in Africa (not realizing that they don't belong to a trade company region), but aside from that everything outside Portugal is in a TC. Now that I've colonized pretty much everything I want to colonize, I'm occasionally removing provinces one at a time from the TC long enough to convert them to Catholicism, then putting them back in the TC and starting to dump monarchmana into their development.
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Oct 23, 2017 10:45
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Rapner posted:Do you put everything in Asia in a trade company? I'm trying to judge if that is the way to go, or keep some out/make states. If you can get right religion and accepted cultures, I think high-development states overseas make sense. I like to conquer Java and promote Javanese culture so I can have a few rich states there.
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Oct 23, 2017 13:36
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I am not actually sure, is it still possible to move your capital to an other continent? Might be easy to move your capital there for a bit, also saves 300 days travel time for colonists.
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Oct 23, 2017 14:23
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Tahirovic posted:I am not actually sure, is it still possible to move your capital to an other continent? Might be easy to move your capital there for a bit, also saves 300 days travel time for colonists. You can move it as long as it's not to the new world, but if your capital is in a trade company region, you can't have trade companies.
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Got a newbie question re: exploring/colonizing. So I'm still playing my Pomerania game on weekends. I recently won a war against Denmark where I was able to get Iceland from their junior partner Norway. Shortly afterward I took Exploration and colonized Greenland while I sent a conquistador to explore Canada. While Greenland finished colonizing, I started to see blue (French) territory showing up in the lands I had explored, specifically Newfoundland. So my question is, if I had never uncovered those territories, could I have waited until Greenland was done colonizing to uncover them and then settle them right away? Or was it chance that France started colonizing Newfoundland a few years after I had uncovered it with a conquistador, and they would have done it whether I had uncovered it myself or not? I guess I'm not sure how that stuff starts to appear to foreign nations.
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Oct 23, 2017 16:31
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:Got a newbie question re: exploring/colonizing. They can only see what they've explored, and you can only see what you've explored. For example, Spain/Portugal have probably long since discovered South and Central America, yet it's probably still hidden to you. I think it automatically spreads at some point way in the future, but I've never quite understood how that worked.
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Oct 23, 2017 16:39
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:Got a newbie question re: exploring/colonizing. Each country has their own fog of war, so unless you shared your maps with France they had to uncover it themselves. Also Newfoundland is one of the two main bottlenecks for colonizing, the other being Brazil.
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Oct 23, 2017 16:41
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AnoHito posted:They can only see what they've explored, and you can only see what you've explored. For example, Spain/Portugal have probably long since discovered South and Central America, yet it's probably still hidden to you. Edit: never mind, it's a little more complicated. From the EU4 wiki (https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Colonization#Discovery): Discovery of individual provinces will occur based on contact with other nations. In general, a province will be revealed to a country if:
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Oct 23, 2017 17:53
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Does anyone know why the nations who you can rival immediately varies each time you start?
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Oct 23, 2017 18:04
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Mr. Fowl posted:Does anyone know why the nations who you can rival immediately varies each time you start? It's possible for some countries to rival you even if you can't rival them. And if they do, you can rival them back even if you can't normally do so. Rival candidacy rules are pretty arcane and weird.
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Oct 23, 2017 18:13
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Yeah smaller nations can rival larger ones if the small one has cores owned by the larger one (example: Byzantium rivalling the Ottomans). There are other obscure factors too, like owning cultures and religion, I think.
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Oct 23, 2017 18:47
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If you form the Roman Empire, do you still receive events for your previous nation? I couldn't find a list of events for Rome on the EU wiki.
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Playing Kutai, just backstabbed Sunda to take most of Majaphait. Unsure if vassalizing brunei is preferable to just taking them overl because they don't help for poo poo even when loyalty is under 50% with invading islands or even controlling water.
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