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Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer


Season 3 of Orange is the New Black starts tomorrow, June 12. If you haven't watched the first two seasons, a woman named Piper Chapman is sent to prison wherein she has wacky prison adventures. Most episodes are formatted where interspersed with the main plot we get backstory flashbacks for one of the inmates, usually showing how they ended up in prison. While the show is technically about Piper, it's really held together by the strong ensemble cast of the other prisoners.

Summary of Season 1: Piper, an early-30s upper class WASPy woman goes to prison for 15 months for smuggling drug money 10 years ago. Shortly after arriving she reunites with her old girlfriend, Alex, who is also in prison for the same drug related crimes. Alex and Piper rekindle their relationship, causing Piper's engagement with her fiance Larry to be called off. During her time, Piper's attitude makes her several enemies, including a meth-addict named Pennsatucky. During the Christmas pageant Pennsatucky attacks Piper, causing her to nearly beat Pennsatucky to death. Some other plots include a mentally unstable woman known as Crazy Eyes becoming obsessed with Piper, a Russian woman, Red, who smuggles goods in via the kitchen being ousted from her position of power, and an inmate Daya and one of the prison guards, Bennett falling in love, and Daya becoming pregnant. In order to conceal their relationship, Daya has sex with another guard, Mendez (aka Pornstache), who is fired when caught.

Summary of Season 2: Piper, while still technically the protagonist, has little to do in this season. Her breakup with Larry becomes permanent as Larry and Piper's best friend Polly begin a relationship. Alex is released because she testifies against the drug Kingpin she used to work for, but he goes free anyway. She was last seen caught violating her parole by carrying a gun. The main plot of the season surrounds the animosity between Red and a new inmate Vee, who had a history from when Red was newly imprisoned. Vee gathers all the black inmates around her to create a gang, and they begin smuggling cigarettes and drugs into the prison. Red joins with the old ladies and uses a tunnel in the greenhouse to smuggle various prohibited but otherwise harmless items into the prison. The confrontation comes to a head when Vee nearly beats Red to death and then escapes through the tunnel, but is immediately killed when hit by the van of another escaping convict. Daya and Bennett's relationship is rocky as her pregnancy continues, as Pornstache is believed to be the father of the baby, but in the finale Bennett confesses to the new Assistant Warden that it is his child.


Trailer 1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njy0dFFlpAc

Trailer 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdht_LMDQv8


Spoiler policy:

Deadpool posted:

:siren: Netflix Rules Update! :siren:

OK, here's what we're going to try as a test. Some people are not happy with the go-wild aspect of the Netflix threads so we're going to try a different approach. If you have general thoughts on the show that's fine. If you are doing specific reactions to episodes they will go into labeled spoiler tags with the episode you are on or have completed for the first 72 hours. If you haven't gotten to that episode then don't click on the spoiler. This is just a trial for Daredevil and if it doesn't work we'll just go back to the old way from now on. And now an example post:


So far the show is good. I enjoy this show so far through episode 10. It is a fine television program.

1x10
The thing that happens in this episode certainly happened. And how it tied back into what they were saying in episode 3 was definitely a cool thing. I think the villain that appeared in this episode and did the villainy thing was bad. He should be punched by the Daredevil and have to go to jail.

The 1x10 is just the episode you're up to. You can write all about episode four if you want, but if you let something slip that came out later and you forget and it maybe happened in episode six that's why you still put episode 10 and not episode 4. Get it? Hope it works. And if not sorry!

EDIT: It has now been more than 72 hours. No more spoiler tags are needed!

Asiina fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Jun 15, 2015

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Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



Love the show, but by god the Daya/Bennett storyline is the worst thing.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer

Davros1 posted:

Love the show, but by god the Daya/Bennett storyline is the worst thing.

It also isn't likely to go away anytime soon. :(

kwyjibo87
Mar 9, 2013
Looks like netflix put the season up early.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

kwyjibo87 posted:

Looks like netflix put the season up early.

It's out on Early Release.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP
3x01 - ahahaha they're talking about the abortion chapter of Freakanomics.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
First two episodes suck. Halfway through Episode 3, and it sucks too.

Doppelganger
Oct 11, 2002

Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger
Soso with the best line of episode 1.

"Oh my god, this is such a metaphor for their lives."

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

Was episode one supposed to be incredibly cliche? Especially that ending. Hah.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
So far Boo's the only good flashback, and it's pretty hackneyed too, but Lee DeLaria is real good so...

Tumblr of scotch
Mar 13, 2006

Please, don't be my neighbor.
I can't get over how they've managed to make Pennsatucky actually likable without having to just completely overhaul her character.

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.

blue squares posted:

Was episode one supposed to be incredibly cliche? Especially that ending. Hah.
I have to say I found the first episode anything but enthralling. Too much soap opera and not enough prison hi-jinx.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Healy's mom what the gently caress

Viginti
Feb 1, 2015
Pretty underwhelmed by episode one. I don't remember the show being this cute in the past, nor its references being so forced. I guess it's going to take a while to get re acclimated to the tone, thankfully though that's exactly what Netflix shows give you.

I wonder whether they will try to introduce a major villain for the season to replicate V, or if it will be more sprawling. I think it needs some more danger, but don't know if they can replicate her presence. We'll see.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Yeah, this season's.... not so hot.

Really lacking in tension, I thought. And really not that funny as a result.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
The first two episodes are...fine. They're definitely playing on the wacky a bit too hard. I love this show's wacky prison antics as much as the next guy but as levity from the heavier stuff. I'm hoping the stakes up later on and it doesn't just sorta become a weird hangout sitcom.

blue squares
Sep 28, 2007

Apparantly third seasons and netflix do not go together well

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Open Source Idiom posted:

Really lacking in tension, I thought. And really not that funny as a result.

Alex should be slowly poisoning Piper or something brutal like that. That whole fighting -> loving -> OK with each other thing was egregious.

queertea
Jun 4, 2013

Not Fade Away
(3x03) drat it, I was really hoping Nicky wouldn't succumb to her addiction. Man, the ending of this episode was so tragic. :(

Also I keep forgetting Piper is even a character on this show until her scenes, lol.

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Taystee with the best line of 3x02. "I'm down to like, 50/50."

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

Success!



I'm only a few minutes into episode 2, but I was lukewarm on the first episode. Some of the scenes were cute, but some of the flashbacks were a bit meh.

Poussey continues to be the best, and I'm wondering if they'll ever explain what she was put in prison for. From any flashbacks they've shown, she had a pretty stable, loving home life, and her parents didn't care she's a lesbian.

And I got a chuckle out of that monotone-sounding CO (I have no idea of the character's name) siccing the muddy-handed kids on Ford because he had previously told all the kids not to touch him/come near him.

I still fast-forward through Piper/Alex scenes, and the whole Daya/ Bennett storyline is such a snore.

Cough Drop The Beat
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax
I really wish season 2 had Piper staying in that other prison for good because her storyline's such a tedious drag. It goes nowhere and feels like a different show when she's on-screen. Piper makes Alex's role pointless in the series too. I'm very intrigued by the possibility of Alex sans Piper... and we'll never get that because the staff can't let Piper go.

The new season is pretty good through 6 episodes, though it's somewhat too slow for my tastes. The first two episodes were weak, but episode 3 significantly improves with Nicky's heartbreaking departure and episode 4's excellent Big Boo flashback. I'm okay with how the season's low-key compared to the intensity of season 2, but I wish there was more of an overarching plotline. But there's still half a season left for me to watch and the private prison takeover could turn to a crazy direction.

Cough Drop The Beat fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Jun 12, 2015

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


blue squares posted:

Was episode one supposed to be incredibly cliche? Especially that ending. Hah.

This show is so frustrating sometimes, because when it's good it's really good, but then too often it just crawls so far up its own rear end, like at the end of the first episode when that loving twee banjo music starts playing it's just like come the gently caress on, show.

Very pleased that Piper/Alex have taken a backseat in favour of all the other characters, who are way more interesting. Nicky's my favourite, and every scene with Pennsatucky has been amazing, it looks like both are getting a lot of screen time this season, hopefully it won't end in tragedy.

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

3x04 Oh my god, Big Boo flashback episode! :dance:

RaspberrySea
Nov 29, 2004

quote:

Daya and Bennett just grind the show to a halt every time they gently caress around pretending to play house in the back of the kitchen.

There better be a huge payoff for those two to make all this screentime on them worth it.

Hey, I wrote this when we all started the last season, and it applies just as much to this season. Anything less than Daya dying in childbirth and Bennett suiciding out of grief will be a massive disappointment to me now.

grandpas drunk
Jun 10, 2015

by Ralp
I was told this morning by the National Public Radio that this season is not as good as the last was and includes too many "on the nose" lines such as a conversation relating to friendships once the girls get out of the slammer, anyone's thoughts?

ninjahedgehog
Feb 17, 2011

It's time to kick the tires and light the fires, Big Bird.


grandpas drunk posted:

I was told this morning by the National Public Radio that this season is not as good as the last was and includes too many "on the nose" lines such as a conversation relating to friendships once the girls get out of the slammer, anyone's thoughts?

Eh, this show has always been ridiculously on the nose. Remember in season 2 when the plot grinds to a halt so every character can take a turn saying how compassionate release is a bad thing? (disregarding the fact that that's not how compassionate release even works)

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


3x03

gently caress you, Orange is the New Black

I hope this isn't the last we've seen of Nicky. Not only do I think she's the best character, I think Natasha Lyonne is the best actress on the show. That's a real shame if they just wrote her out.

RaspberrySea
Nov 29, 2004
3x04

Okay, I love Pennsatucky and Boo's new friendship, and I hope it lasts. Here's to Heaven and Hell, and nothing in between.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Reminder that Pennsatucky is multi-talented

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zYtfGXhxmE

ninjahedgehog
Feb 17, 2011

It's time to kick the tires and light the fires, Big Bird.


1x05 minor song spoilers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oiLfTnrC40

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Hakkesshu posted:

3x03

gently caress you, Orange is the New Black

I hope this isn't the last we've seen of Nicky. Not only do I think she's the best character, I think Natasha Lyonne is the best actress on the show. That's a real shame if they just wrote her out.

Seriously. If Nicky is gone, they've thrown away their best character and best actress. Rest of the show will be soulless if she's gone permanently.

Cough Drop The Beat
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax
3x10

Goddamn. I feel really bad for Pennsatucky. That ending was a gut punch. She was finally having a little fun... and that had to happen. She has a very unfortunate life, even compared to most other inmates in the series. :(

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
Did Boos tats change?

Also how the gently caress are you already on ep 10 dang dude

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

Success!



Just got to ep 6, and while some of the flashbacks/back stories are a bit too formulaic/on the nose I felt bad for (3x06) Chang, and also Lorna's breakdown, admitting the 'only person who cared about her' got sent away

I don't know if it's a positive or a negative that I give more of a gently caress for the side characters than the main characters...

Doppelganger
Oct 11, 2002

Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger
This season is so loving weird.

Doppelganger
Oct 11, 2002

Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger
Guest star spoiler:

Mike Birbiglia is absolutely killing it as a corporate douchebag.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
Feel free to disregard this post.

It is guaranteed to be lazy, ignorant, and/or uninformed.
It's a struggle through some of these episodes.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP
3x04 Piper's Brother continues to be awesome.

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nooneofconsequence
Oct 30, 2012

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

Does it get better after episode 4 cause so far... meh.

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