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Capntastic
Jan 13, 2005

A dog begins eating a dusty old coil of rope but there's a nail in it.

Last Buffalo posted:

This is more a fault of the show's writing than anything else, but they don't make a great case for the Rock being a good businessman or a wise alternative to Reggie.

The Rock's character has done little but spout a few canned words of wisdom, say "look man I've been there, take it from me" and get people to sign up. It's his job; it's what he knows he was hired for. I'm still waiting for The Rock to snap and go on a bender, or start doing some monstrous power plays because he's been talked up as a relentless maniac on the field.

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Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

Fun Shoe

Last Buffalo posted:

This show feels like it's written by a team of cynical white frat boys trying to talk about the lives of rich black athletes and using Maxim and ESPN as their own points of reference.

Say it ain't so!
Every woman and her wardrobe choice is integral to the overall story arc. For instance in this scene:



Tracy uses her body as a sort of polygraph to compel Spence to admit the truth about not getting an MRI. So it was completely necessary to have a scene at the beach.

And of course what would an NFLer trying to rehabilitate his playboy image be without a house littered with unemployed, hot women just lounging around all day long because why the hell not.



This is not simply eye candy. The inherent subtext is an illustration of the ingrained manner in which commercialization and objectification of women has overridden their natural need for actualization as individuals.

Binary Logic fucked around with this message at 12:09 on Jul 29, 2015

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!
The Rock may not be a good financial advisor. Some clues:

Lent out the $300,000
That was all he had in his bank account.
But he didn't realize at the time.
But he has other bank accounts he didn't know about.
The "Old man" didn't want to hire him.

He's really just a sales man like at a car dealership. He was hired for his connections and not his skills at money management.

Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007

Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade



Zero One posted:

The Rock may not be a good financial advisor. Some clues:

Lent out the $300,000
That was all he had in his bank account.
But he didn't realize at the time.
But he has other bank accounts he didn't know about.
The "Old man" didn't want to hire him.

He's really just a sales man like at a car dealership. He was hired for his connections and not his skills at money management.

At that level, though, it's a way in to a very exclusive club - if someone wants to develop a network of individuals quickly to offer them a product or service, find someone they can identify with. It's no different than having exclusive memberships to whatever clubs are appropriate to your industry. It's a way to start a conversation.

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon

Zero One posted:

The Rock may not be a good financial advisor. Some clues:

Lent out the $300,000
That was all he had in his bank account.
But he didn't realize at the time.
But he has other bank accounts he didn't know about.
The "Old man" didn't want to hire him.

He's really just a sales man like at a car dealership. He was hired for his connections and not his skills at money management.

I thought he took out a loan for the $300k?

Golden Bee
Dec 24, 2009

I came here to chew bubblegum and quote 'They Live', and I'm... at an impasse.
He LOANED Vernon the money.

They've said repeatedly that Spencer was hired for his connections, and Joe seems to be the only one at the firm who likes him. No protagonist on the show is particularly good at their job (unless it's Football).

Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007

Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade



Golden Bee posted:

He LOANED Vernon the money.

They've said repeatedly that Spencer was hired for his connections, and Joe seems to be the only one at the firm who likes him. No protagonist on the show is particularly good at their job (unless it's Football).

I'd disagree, none of the protagonists seem to be particularly bad at their jobs - Spencer has been successful at introducing people to Joe, plus he's helped Ricky out with the PR thing. We haven't really seen Joe work yet, just party, have we? And the agent did get Vern a big bump on the contract - may not be what Vern wanted but gently caress, sometimes expectations are unrealistic.

So far nobody here really seems like a major antagonist besides Reggie - hell, the shady lawyer calmed down to $150k. It's still a shakedown, yeah, and we're not supposed to like the guy. Even Reggie, at worst, is just feeding off of Vern. Doesn't seem to be actively trying to sabotage him.

This is Entourage: Football Edition. Entourage had no real antagonists for the first season, it was a warm up lap, and I'm expecting exactly the same here.

Capntastic
Jan 13, 2005

A dog begins eating a dusty old coil of rope but there's a nail in it.

I really do think that the guy who bankrupted himself, save for a few grand he had stashed in a forgotten account, in the first episode, is good with money.

Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007

Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade



His job isn't to be good with money. It's to introduce the guys who are good with money to football players.

Freaquency
May 10, 2007

"Yes I can hear you, I don't have ear cancer!"

He even said that Joe handles the money, the agent handles the contracts, and he handles everything in between in the episode prior, which was then referenced in this episode

BlindSite
Feb 8, 2009

Shooting Blanks posted:

His job isn't to be good with money. It's to introduce the guys who are good with money to football players.

This 1000x he's not the money manager.

Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008
He's the sales guy. As a sales guy, you don't need to know poo poo about anything in order to be successful.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Waroduce posted:

He's the sales guy. As a sales guy, you don't need to know poo poo about anything in order to be successful.

He 's flat out told by Rob Couddry that the only reason he was hired was for his player connections and football reputation.

PaganGoatPants
Jan 18, 2012

TODAY WAS THE SPECIAL SALE DAY!
Grimey Drawer
A reminder that this poo poo happens: http://www.forbes.com/sites/vincentfrank/2015/07/30/former-nba-all-star-vin-baker-blew-100-million-now-working-at-starbucks/

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


The theme song for this show might be the worst song I have ever heard.

Last Buffalo
Nov 7, 2011


This probably won't happen, though. Even Charles is living a good life. Nothing must interfere with the Entourage lifestyle porn.

adrenaline_junket
May 29, 2005
gotta get a rush!

Last Buffalo posted:

This probably won't happen, though. Even Charles is living a good life. Nothing must interfere with the Entourage lifestyle porn.

Not really. His wife is a specialist doctor and he works at a chevy dealership. Even if the money from his pro ball days runs out, there is still enough in his household to keep the lights well and truly on. Just needs to keep his poo poo together and not ruin his marriage over lolz.

ChadSexington
Aug 12, 2004
I am so not competitive. In fact, I am the least non-competitive. So I win.
The Rock is a Really Bad financial consultant in this show.

Roman Reigns
Aug 23, 2007

"What the gently caress she'd leave me for"

Jesus these guys are hopeless

Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008
lol the pics got out

Yung Jacques
Oct 31, 2010

NESguerilla posted:

The theme song for this show might be the worst song I have ever heard.
It's not nearly as bad as the opening credits. Low budget pornos have better title sequences than that.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Waroduce posted:

lol the pics got out

As previously stated, we've known that from the season promos.

Golden Bee
Dec 24, 2009

I came here to chew bubblegum and quote 'They Live', and I'm... at an impasse.
What an ep of The Brink! Twist after twist.

cstang
Oct 27, 2005

Da Bears

Golden Bee posted:

What an ep of The Brink! Twist after twist.

I really dig The Brink. All the episodes have been really fun to watch. Tim Robbins is hilarious in it.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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I'm pretty sure the rock and Dr. Blake are going to head out at the end of this season. Probably due to getting fired.

This is not a potential spoiler because this is obvious.

Cole
Nov 24, 2004

DUNSON'D

pentyne posted:

As previously stated, we've known that from the season promos.

some people don't watch promos :shrug:

Erika
Feb 6, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

NESguerilla posted:

The theme song for this show might be the worst song I have ever heard.
Nah.

Also the ending music for this episode is pretty good as well.

Amy Pole Her
Jun 17, 2002
Yeah seriously the ballers intro song makes me want to party almost every time I hear it how can you hate it?!

red19fire
May 26, 2010

AAA DOLFAN posted:

Yeah seriously the ballers intro song makes me want to party almost every time I hear it how can you hate it?!

The unrelated crossfit b-footage PUMPS ME UP for professional athletes making terrible life decisions BUT THEY OWN RARE CARS.

Arsonist Daria
Feb 27, 2011

Requiescat in pace.

AAA DOLFAN posted:

Yeah seriously the ballers intro song makes me want to party almost every time I hear it how can you hate it?!

Some people don't like modern rap, not that shocking. Goddamn do people get worked about about theme songs and credit sequences, though. It's nothing special but man, I guess some people never get exposed to the real obnoxious poo poo if they think the opening is awful.

As to the episode, can't believe Rock wouldn't just meet with the woman for the sake of his client and friend. I'm sure that's gonna be explored, but it's really telling how he goes around lecturing everyone about not getting caught up in their own egos while he loses it whenever it comes time for him to follow his own advice. What they do with that is gonna either make or break this show for me.

Arsonist Daria fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Aug 3, 2015

Eau de MacGowan
May 12, 2009

BRASIL HEXA
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Everything with the urn was weird as hell, chucking it over the fence at the start, the rock not thinking it was weird or disrespectful to casually scoop his dead friends ashes from the seat of his car because he braked too hard and spilled them.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


AAA DOLFAN posted:

Yeah seriously the ballers intro song makes me want to party almost every time I hear it how can you hate it?!
Hearing lil Wayne/ drake try to sing is like getting my ears poo poo in. It's one of the worst noises I've ever heard.

Amy Pole Her
Jun 17, 2002

red19fire posted:

The unrelated crossfit b-footage PUMPS ME UP for professional athletes making terrible life decisions BUT THEY OWN RARE CARS.

And go on big boats. And bang hot chicks. Don't sell it short!

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug
I actually like the intro tune. It reminded me of the NBA playoffs song, but it's not all off key and poo poo. It has melody.

My report card: True Detective turned into a stinky turd, Ballers has been pretty good and it's still fun to watch, and Brink is still loving hilarious.

red19fire
May 26, 2010

AAA DOLFAN posted:

And go on big boats. And bang hot chicks. Don't sell it short!

Also there's a house full of naked, promiscuous supermodels at all times!

nooneofconsequence
Oct 30, 2012

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.




GET PUMPED

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


As someone who has interacted with lots of NFL players the most unrealistic part of this show is how nice Miami looks

Pron on VHS
Nov 14, 2005

Blood Clots
Sweat Dries
Bones Heal
Suck it Up and Keep Wrestling

NESguerilla posted:

Hearing lil Wayne/ drake try to sing is like getting my ears poo poo in. It's one of the worst noises I've ever heard.

lol pasty shut-in goons and rap is like vodka and milk

pigdog
Apr 23, 2004

by Smythe
Everybody on this show continues to be an idiot.

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veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Pron on VHS posted:

lol pasty shut-in goons and rap is like vodka and milk

Love how this is the generic goon response for every time someone mentions a rap song sounds like poo poo. Sorry your ears are hosed and you like listening to lil wayne moan like a dying animal into an auto tune filter.

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