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Did Gaspy clear TOML or just vouch for him? I will say;TOML has consistently been on the Anidav lynch train (as have i except for the time gaspy doubted toml) since day one. Which is encouraging.
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Freudian Slip posted:No, I think he used his ability on TOML. I think he is assuming that Hiipfire wouldn't have come out swinging protecting TOML unless he Hiipfire was town. Scum would have just sat back and laughed as TOML was lynched. gently caress - I missed the part where he couldn't target the same person twice. I thought he could only not use the same power twice
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Jun 22, 2015 01:45
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Oh, I have a character list too, since people might notice there are only 2 characters left and much fewer than 13 have said who they are. I realised a while ago the Mod Flavour on Day Actions reveals your character even if you haven't outright claimed. I'm surprised the serial killer didn't use that. Although, I guess, Animes. I look like a dude.
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Jun 22, 2015 01:50
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In any case, are we agreed that from the original Bif lynch, BS and I are the most likely two that are scum?
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Jun 22, 2015 01:50
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Oh derp there were no Day Actions D1 for him to work off. That makes sense 
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Jun 22, 2015 01:52
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Freudian Slip posted:In any case, are we agreed that from the original Bif lynch, BS and I are the most likely two that are scum? I believe so. You seem more helpful, though. Having said that TOML and Kat are both doing good work.
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Jun 22, 2015 01:54
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gwyn, why did you truthbullet anidav when you did?
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Jun 22, 2015 01:54
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Freudian Slip posted:In any case, are we agreed that from the original Bif lynch, BS and I are the most likely two that are scum? Yeah. We should still settle List 2 first, IMO, although if it becomes easier as the day progresses to spot between yourself or Bird we can go that way. If Hiip wasn't playing for the scum team when he protected TOML by stating his Role PM success, which means TOML did have a successful night action and was also not trackable, which IMO lends closer to Ninja as a targeted ability "I target X to read their PM" should be vulnerable to bus.
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Jun 22, 2015 01:54
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Scum: ONE OF Birdstrike, Freudian Slip, HiipFire, bowmore ?ONE? OF Gwyn, TOML, Kat Gwyn has demonstrated TRUTHBULLET D3 on Anidav TOML has claimed Even-Night Doctor N2 Bowmore N4 Kat Kat has claimed Guard N1 TOML N2 BLOCKED N3 Gaspy N4 Bowmore Birdstrike has demonstrated/claimed NOTHING Hiipfire has claimed Night Action Surveyor was likely investigated Clean by the Cop FS has claimed MONDO BIKER GANG LEADER highly situational ability (have we hit it yet?) Bowmore has demonstrated HACK/SENSOR which makes him almost confirmed town. Of the unclaimed characters we have: Sayaka Pop Sensation Byakuya Affluent
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Jun 22, 2015 01:58
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like, i'm looking back on gwyn's truthbullet of anidav and trying to work out how that was a pro-town move
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Jun 22, 2015 02:00
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I think I understand his passive too, cos Makoto is lucky. And it seems really unlikely to be given to a scum.
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Jun 22, 2015 02:03
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Those On My Left posted:gwyn, why did you truthbullet anidav when you did? Basically, he was the person I was most sure was scum. In other games I don't really do the day one anidav thing, but I was doing it this time and most other days because of instinct I suppose. I figure if I bullet someone and they visited someone who was now deceased or someone who knew they got blocked then it might help the eliminations, doubly so if it cleared me at the same time. In the end I wasted it. Well intentioned idiot, as usual.
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Jun 22, 2015 02:08
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I am probably not allowed to say this since I am on the bottom list but I'd really like to consider the top list instead of doubling down on us. If we acknowledge Bowmore and Hiip as town because of their actions and the probable cop respectively our strike rate is 1/2 on the top list versus 1/3 on the bottom list. ALSO. I feel like Byakuya might be a Survivor, 4P? Maybe not, but just a thought.
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Jun 22, 2015 02:12
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Kat Delacour posted:If we acknowledge Bowmore and Hiip as town because of their actions and the probable cop respectively our strike rate is 1/2 on the top list versus 1/3 on the bottom list. yeah this makes a lot of sense actually (although i'm probably not allowed to say it either) i'm suss on birdstrike because of the lack of any sort of roleclaims or demonstrations
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Jun 22, 2015 02:16
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Kat Delacour posted:I am probably not allowed to say this since I am on the bottom list but I'd really like to consider the top list instead of doubling down on us. I actually agree Kat, its either me or BS on the Bif lynch. ##vote birdstrike If BS is scum and we lynch him, it completely clears the rest of the Bif lynchers.
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Jun 22, 2015 02:18
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Also if I was scum, I wouldn't have knowingly hammered a town (Bif)
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Jun 22, 2015 02:19
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I can get behind it but I want to hold off on votes to avoid a rushed hammer if we pick the wrong target - Scum control 2/4 votes to hammer.
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Jun 22, 2015 02:24
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We're waiting on Bowmore and Hiip to check in and say anything? I admit, I also really hope that Bowmore is sitting on another sensor and faking out he only had the one.
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Jun 22, 2015 02:25
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Kat Delacour posted:I can get behind it but I want to hold off on votes to avoid a rushed hammer if we pick the wrong target - Scum control 2/4 votes to hammer. this is exactly why i didn't vote gwyn earlier, before you made the point about the odds
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Jun 22, 2015 02:26
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It's an odd situation we're in,really. Very close. Very tense. We're not sure who to lynch, but at the same time, through process of elimination, the scum team don't have many safe people to kill in either group. Could still go either way. I'm managing to stay interested even with Gaspy out of the picture, which is rare for mafia. Full disclosure, even though I've hinted at it. I am lynchproof. If two town vote for me, two scum will be able to pile on. The day will end. I won't flip, still and the scum will get a chance to do some nightkilling after the town has achieved absolutely nothing. I wouldn't mind being lynched were I not lynchproof. I'd die, flip then whoever of Kat or TOML is actually town could be 100% certain of the other. And it's not like I'm that useful anyways. But in this case? Really would just be a waste.
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Jun 22, 2015 02:38
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So much BS on BS, and look it's Kat behind it all again. She conveniently ignores my calling out of Anidav yesterday because it implicates her. This is where if I was scum I would claim that I'm the bus driver, conveniently answering so many questions. But I'm not. My night action is to boost the effectiveness of another player's action by cheering them on through the power of the best pop singing voice you've ever heard. I honestly have no idea how exactly it helps, but apparently it does. I used it on Beet N1, TOML N2, Gaspy N3 and TOML again last night.
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Jun 22, 2015 02:39
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Gwynplaine posted:It's an odd situation we're in,really. Very close. Very tense. We're not sure who to lynch, but at the same time, through process of elimination, the scum team don't have many safe people to kill in either group. Could still go either way. I'm managing to stay interested even with Gaspy out of the picture, which is rare for mafia. why would you claim this just as people have agreed to stop focusing on the you/me/kat group and focus on the other group
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Jun 22, 2015 02:42
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Gwynplaine posted:It's an odd situation we're in,really. Very close. Very tense. We're not sure who to lynch, but at the same time, through process of elimination, the scum team don't have many safe people to kill in either group. Could still go either way. I'm managing to stay interested even with Gaspy out of the picture, which is rare for mafia. This is really suss dude. There was no reason to provide this info at the moment. The main reason it is suss? Because no one else has with an x-shot power got something else. I know mine is a once only deal
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Jun 22, 2015 02:45
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Birdstrike posted:So much BS on BS, and look it's Kat behind it all again. She conveniently ignores my calling out of Anidav yesterday because it implicates her. Again, great of you to point the finger at me, but I'm the one actually trying to help the town by putting some ideas down. If you're Sayaka then Hiip is Byakuya That ability sounds like Enabling which infers the existence of a Night-Time roleblocker, or that you were the only one who could help people get out of their rooms.
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Jun 22, 2015 02:46
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Freudian Slip posted:This is really suss dude. There was no reason to provide this info at the moment. Oh. That's a very good point too. Everybody we've seen had just the one thing.
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Jun 22, 2015 02:47
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Those On My Left posted:why would you claim this just as people have agreed to stop focusing on the you/me/kat group and focus on the other group Just in case, I suppose. I'm gonna be at work in the final crunch of today. Wanna know I warned people. Question: How does Strikes power work? How do you BOOST most mafia powers? It's not like they'd be able to use their power on a second person. They wouldn't know to select them.
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Jun 22, 2015 02:47
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Freudian Slip posted:This is really suss dude. There was no reason to provide this info at the moment. pretty good way to dissuade town from lynching you though
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Jun 22, 2015 02:48
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I should clarify because Gaspy obviously got 3 things, but it was all like the one big thing the way it was composed together.
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Jun 22, 2015 02:48
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Kat Delacour posted:Again, great of you to point the finger at me, but I'm the one actually trying to help the town by putting some ideas down. Oh poo poo, Or it's for the Scum Team to enable them past my Guard.
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Jun 22, 2015 02:50
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I interpreted my power as anti-roleblocker, but I haven't seen any evidence of roleblocking and I have no idea what my power does specifically to help.
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Birdstrike posted:I interpreted my power as anti-roleblocker, but I haven't seen any evidence of roleblocking and I have no idea what my power does specifically to help. Your PM didn't explain it? That'd be unusual.
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Jun 22, 2015 02:55
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Kat Delacour posted:Oh poo poo, Or for you and TOML to stop strongmen kills.
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Jun 22, 2015 02:56
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Gwynplaine posted:Your PM didn't explain it? I agree it's unusual. The only thing I can recall seeing like this were some of the secret projects I had in my game which boosted the recipient's powers, like I had an unjailable bus driver at one point due to boosting.
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Jun 22, 2015 02:58
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Seriously, everyone else's powers have been explained in their PM, yeah? Like there's not any ambiguity to it.
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Jun 22, 2015 03:06
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I wanted to make double sure Guard worked the way I thought it did because of Gaspy's freak out where he thought maybe he could clear me. Call it a one-way-Jail or a reverse role block. I reckon this pop song is a scum enable to get past my Guard. I still don't buy Junko as First Aid either. Every single thing everybody has done maps out to their character's traits. Junko/Mukuro the mystery 16th student is a twinsie accessory-changing shapeshifter and I still think TOML is a scum team ninja.
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Kat Delacour posted:I wanted to make double sure Guard worked the way I thought it did because of Gaspy's freak out where he thought maybe he could clear me. i buy the first part of this post but not the second. i don't buy the second part for two reasons: 1) the OP says flavour is unrelated to alignment (which, i know, doesn't mean the same as flavour being unrelated to power/role) 2) i don't know anything about this flavour so i can't really back you up i would be happy to vote birdstrike today and vote gwyn tomorrow. birdstrike's role is really weird and he is super late to claim it, and as kat says it does make sense as a scum boost gwyn was trying to lynch either me or hiip at the start of the day. when kat and i showed how hiip was probably town, gwyn backed off immediately and started cosying up to me. his use of the truthbullet plays like something the scum agreed to do, and his claim today is bizarre, probably bullshit, and really badly timed. so yeah, birdstrike today and gwyn tomorrow anyone?
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Jun 22, 2015 03:14
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i should add that i'm really not interested in FS's theories on birdstrike, because obviously if birdstrike isn't the scum then FS is the next obvious candidate
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Jun 22, 2015 03:16
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Voting for me wont be much less awful tomorrow, but I don't mind voting strike today.
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Jun 22, 2015 03:16
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Those On My Left posted:2) i don't know anything about this flavour so i can't really back you up I've just been reading the danganronpa wikia The flavour-power connections are incredibly obvious for most people, featuring in the introductory paragraph or their "Ultimate X" title.
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Would like to hear from Hiipfire before we push ahead since he apparently has the only investigative ability left.Those On My Left posted:i should add that i'm really not interested in FS's theories on birdstrike, because obviously if birdstrike isn't the scum then FS is the next obvious candidate Obviously, but it's me or him at the moment. What other theories have I had on BS that you are dismissing? At the moment, the main thing against him is the process of elimination.
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