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Kat Delacour posted:OH! wait I know what you're asking. I'm saying Hiip could be the 1 in BifLynch, Godfather for the Gaspy investigation (showing Town) but the 1 person on the sensor for Bowmore's. poo poo i totally missed that bowmore post
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Gwynplaine posted:I feel like I'm locked in basement with two people one of which I know will kill me before too long, but I'm still enjoying their company and clinking drinks with them. Because at least we're trying. The spectre of death by mob justice will do that to you I suppose.
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Jun 22, 2015 07:17
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going to go back and read hiip's posts
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I don't think it's a huge revelation it's just a point of assumptions and ratios. Hiip has really only come out to drop data to defend you, TOML. And he's done very little of that.
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Kat Delacour posted:I don't think it's a huge revelation it's just a point of assumptions and ratios. yeah his posting record doesn't even go to one full page you'd almost be justified voting for him purely for lurking tendencies i do feel like there are a shitload of pro-town powers this game. like, even assuming that a couple of people who are claiming town powers are lying scum, there's still a shitload of pro-town powers on the table, even just on the basis of the flips we've seen there's the ##ASK THE SPIRITS thing, the ##OBEY THE RULES thing, Gaspy's frankly insane cop/watcher/tracker hybrid, gwyn's Truthbullet thing which could have been really useful but was wasted on Anidav (only for Gwyn to "find out" several days later that he's got more bullets), your asserted guard, my protection... like, what do we know by comparison? that there's probably a scum busdriver. anidav's scum power was frankly pretty lovely, being a single shot night time protective thing. it would make sense for scum to have another big gun up their sleeves; godfather would kind of make sense.
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Jun 22, 2015 07:30
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Those On My Left posted:yeah his posting record doesn't even go to one full page Godfather wouldn't be very powerful since there was only a partial cop
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Jun 22, 2015 07:36
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Freudian Slip posted:Godfather wouldn't be very powerful since there was only a partial cop probably would be more powerful than "pick a turn. you are protected for that turn and that turn only" which is what anidav had if i understood his role correctly but yeah i take your point, it still wouldn't be anywhere near as powerful as what town seems to have on the table this game, which, as I've said, is why I think Anidav got a reprieve from his frankly well deserved modkill
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Jun 22, 2015 07:38
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Kinda jumping ahead of where I'm currently at in the thread to say that I stupidly checked gwyn cause I forgot about the truthbullet he used D1 and it came up with him not having gotten a pm in the night. Also yeah Gaspy did cop me yesterday. I would vote gwyn yeah now back to reading everything I missed
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speaking of ratios: bif-lynchers: Birdstrike, Freudian Slip, Hiipfire, Bowmore bif-no-lynchers: Gwyn, TOML, Kat we have all been assuming that there were 3 scum. okay, let's stay with that. if there's a godfather, then we cannot make the assumption that one of Gwyn/Toml/Kat is scum. it's entirely possible that two of Birdstrike/Freudian/Hiipfire/Bowmore are scum. So if there's a godfather and 3 scum, the chances of hitting a scum in the Bif Lynch group are either 1/4 or 2/4, and the chances of hitting a scum in the Bif No Lynch group are either 1/3 or 0/3. If there's no godfather and 3 scum, the chances of hitting a scum int he Bif Lynch group are 1/4 and the chances of hitting a scum in the Bif No Lynch group are 1/3
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Jun 22, 2015 07:46
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Those On My Left posted:speaking of ratios: Except for the part where it was clarified that godfathers aren't protected when it comes to Bowmore's ability. ie. they would be in the count of 1
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Jun 22, 2015 07:49
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Wait, Bowmores thing doesn't detect godfathers?
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Jun 22, 2015 07:49
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Freudian Slip posted:Except for the part where it was clarified that godfathers aren't protected when it comes to Bowmore's ability. That's what I thought.
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Jun 22, 2015 07:50
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No TOML that's what I was trying to say when you got all excited when I said that Sensor shows any and all scum including Godfathers, there is only 1 total scum-faction member on the BifLynch Gaspy investigated Hiip which means we have presumed him to be town, same as bowmore, but there is always the nagging doubt in the Enigma machine brain that he could have been a Godfather. It's not a huge concern, it's not a huge revelation.
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Jun 22, 2015 07:52
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Kat Delacour posted:No TOML that's what I was trying to say when you got all excited when I said that oh right lol sorry
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Jun 22, 2015 07:53
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Are you seriously considering there being 4 scum and 1 sk in a 15 player game? come on dude please
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Jun 22, 2015 07:54
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Unless of course Bowmore was lying about it and there is a second scum in the Bif group. We are getting to  levels now though
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Jun 22, 2015 07:54
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Bowmore didn't post the sensor outcome Zets did.
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Jun 22, 2015 07:54
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HiipFire posted:Are you seriously considering there being 4 scum and 1 sk in a 15 player game? no nothing i just posted suggested that there would be 4 scum i mean everything i posted was premised on a misunderstanding of whether godfather triggered the sensor but literally none of it relied on there being 4 scum
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Jun 22, 2015 07:55
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HiipFire posted:Are you seriously considering there being 4 scum and 1 sk in a 15 player game? Oh I hit post like a couple minutes after everything got posted woopsy
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Jun 22, 2015 07:55
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anyway  DATE NIGHT back later scrubs
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Jun 22, 2015 07:58
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Kat Delacour posted:Bowmore didn't post the sensor outcome Zets did. But Bowmore was the one to clarify that godfathers weren't protected. It would be a fantastic scum play as we would stop looking at his group after the other scum was lynched/killed. But I am going with it being too out there to really consider at the moment
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Jun 22, 2015 07:59
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And reading Zet's post again with the Execution video there is no hope of another Sensor. I think it's Truth Bullet time but I am still hesitant to say for sure who to use it on.
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Jun 22, 2015 08:00
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HiipFire posted:Kinda jumping ahead of where I'm currently at in the thread to say that I stupidly checked gwyn cause I forgot about the truthbullet he used D1 and it came up with him not having gotten a pm in the night. Just so that we are clear, can you break it down by night? ie. N1 - Gwyn - no PMs
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Jun 22, 2015 08:03
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N1 - Beet - No PMs N2 - TOML - Succesful Night action N3 - Gaspy - Succesful Cop result on me(Town) N4 - Gwyn - No PMs
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Jun 22, 2015 08:05
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##vote TOML I reckon this is it, toml and Birds
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Jun 22, 2015 08:11
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As for the truth bullet. Who do we think is doing the killing? If I was scum, I wouldn't be using one of those people on the non-Bif lynch since they are the most likely to be investigated. That is unless TOML is an even night ninja?
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Gaspy saw him not leave his room on a Track, Hiip saw him get a successful night PM TOML said he went to Bowmore I think Ninja suits the character, or some sort of shapeshifting Fashion trick to appear as her twin sister.
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Jun 22, 2015 08:19
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 I am going to buy some food and will be back in an hour. Try not to burn down the school.
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Kat Delacour posted:Gaspy saw him not leave his room on a Track, Someone at the time tried to suggest he had an ability where he stayed in his room, but TOML himself said he went to Bowmore. I think that was part of the bus speculation. Still I can't believe we didn't make a bigger deal of that inconsistency at the time.
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Jun 22, 2015 08:21
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Nevermind, I found something
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Freudian Slip posted:I have been thinking about the TOML situation. This theory we said wasn't too crazy, because we all forgot that TOML himself said he targetted bowmore, also I forgot that the conclusion was still "TOML is lying". Later that night is when I had the epiphany about people, notably Anidav the yellow bellied, trying to steer off TOML and remembered that Ninjas exist.
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Jun 22, 2015 08:35
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I guess Truth Bullets are in order? I mean, gently caress it, right?
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Kat Delacour posted:Someone at the time tried to suggest he had an ability where he stayed in his room, but TOML himself said he went to Bowmore. I think that was part of the bus speculation. Still I can't believe we didn't make a bigger deal of that inconsistency at the time. I suggested that he may have an ability that he can use that doesn't target people. It would mean he was lying and probably scum if that was the case. Either that or there is another ability to mess with people's powers floating about.
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Kat Delacour posted:I guess Truth Bullets are in order? He said he visited you last night. If we truth bullet him, that's what it should show if he is town.
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Freudian Slip posted:He said he visited you last night. If we truth bullet him, that's what it should show if he is town. Unless he's busdriving her?
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Jun 22, 2015 08:42
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Freudian Slip posted:He said he visited you last night. If we truth bullet him, that's what it should show if he is town.
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Jun 22, 2015 08:45
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No the whole bus driving thing only works if he was swapping himself with someone else. Gaspy and Hiipfire got different results on TOML.
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Jun 22, 2015 08:45
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I think we should truth bullet someone in the bif-lynch group since there's more people in that group so the scum in that group is probably doing the killing
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HiipFire posted:Not really since it could still mean he has a different role from the one he claims I didn't say that if he visited Kat then he is town. I said that if he is town then it should say that he visited Kat. The only role I can think of that a scum would use on Kat at this point is role blocking and Kat says that her action was successful.
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Unless ofcourse TOML is a ninja but then a truth bullet wouldn't do anything or would it?
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