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totalnewbie
Nov 13, 2005

I was born and raised in China, lived in Japan, and now hold a US passport.

I am wrong in every way, all the damn time.

Ask me about my tattoos.
There was already a little bit of that, as resources moved between warehouses instantly. I'm partially with you, though, but it does make managing some products much much less of a hassle to be efficient, space-wise. I'm personally reserving my judgement.

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ed balls balls man
Apr 17, 2006
This Game Is Expensive As Balls

Brutakas
Oct 10, 2012

Farewell, marble-dwellers!
Stream has started.

http://www.twitch.tv/ubisoft

Is the audio super quiet or is it just me?

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.
Well, from the people talking in the stream it aounds like they're going ahead with the midnight Europe release time... hope to be suprised when I get home.

Omnicarus
Jan 16, 2006

Brutakas posted:

The reddit thread in the OP mentioned that resources are now instantly abstracted rather than needing to be physically transported. Doesn't that remove the incentive to group buildings that are part of the same production chain? Not having to think about where you place buildings might be a little too streamlined for my taste.

While they are abstracted, there's a logistical cost now so inefficiently grouped buildings will cost more to maintain in power and I suppose in money? So I think it's more or less the same in spirit just easier to put a hard number to.

MrDorf
Apr 28, 2006

Grimey Drawer

ed balls balls man posted:

This Game Is Expensive As Balls

This is one of those few games, like X-COM, and the ARMA series, where I get so much playtime out of it that I didn't even think twice at the price.

There's no way to say this without coming off like a bit of a dick, but it's meant as a genuine statement...There's such a terrible glut of absolute garbage games that I actually make it a point to pay full price for genuinely good content now that I have the disposable income available.

Vetitum
Feb 29, 2008

ed balls balls man posted:

This Game Is Expensive As Balls

£49.99 what in the hell is this. It's a full £10 cheaper in the US too according to enhanced Steam. Jesus.

Mayveena
Dec 27, 2006

People keep vandalizing my ID photo; I've lodged a complaint with HR

Vetitum posted:

£49.99 what in the hell is this. It's a full £10 cheaper in the US too according to enhanced Steam. Jesus.

Clearly you Brits have more money than us income equality exploited Americans :).

Brutakas
Oct 10, 2012

Farewell, marble-dwellers!

Omnicarus posted:

While they are abstracted, there's a logistical cost now so inefficiently grouped buildings will cost more to maintain in power and I suppose in money? So I think it's more or less the same in spirit just easier to put a hard number to.

Oh good. They just mentioned this in the stream as well. When placing buildings the road shows a blue gradient. The bluer it is the more efficient it is. You can build logistic centers along roads to boost that. I guess they function as warehouses.

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

I suppose that by removing agents they free up a lot of CPU power for other crap?

Lorini posted:

Clearly you Brits have more money than us income equality exploited Americans :).
Isn't it just because of their idea that 1$=1€? :downs:

edit
Based on the gameplay video posted earlier the mouspointer changes and becomes really hard to use with certain tools, such as demolishing.

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

totalnewbie posted:

There was already a little bit of that, as resources moved between warehouses instantly. I'm partially with you, though, but it does make managing some products much much less of a hassle to be efficient, space-wise. I'm personally reserving my judgement.

I would have preferred semi-regular supply shits and/or mass drivers for moving stuff between space and the planetary zones because it gives you an incentive to be efficient and plan ahead. Global warehouses are weird when the entire premise of the game is logistics.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Oh, hey, the game actually tells you, in game, how many units of resources a building creates and uses.

So for example, the Vita-drink factory takes 16 units of fruit to produce 12 units of Vita-drink, while the Plantation produces 8 units of fruit. So 2 plantations per Vita-Drink plant.

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

Alkydere posted:

Oh, hey, the game actually tells you, in game, how many units of resources a building creates and uses.

So for example, the Vita-drink factory takes 16 units of fruit to produce 12 units of Vita-drink, while the Plantation produces 8 units of fruit. So 2 plantations per Vita-Drink plant.
That's really about time. I don't miss having to guess the ratio of production buildings, or having to look it up all the time. There's a mod for it with 1404 but I don't know if 2070 had the problem.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



2070 had the problem in spades because there was so many ways you could get items that affect production and energy use globally or on an island-wide basis.

2205 seems to have the same issue of so many ways to upgrade factories and such, but they realized it was an issue this time so they now tell you how much a factory produces.

Snaxx
Apr 5, 2009
GreenManGaming has it for $48 with voucher SAVE20-NOVEMB-GAMING. It's a uplay key.

Sipher
Jan 14, 2008
Cryptic
I bought it on GMG, but I guess they don't send a key until the game releases. What are the chances I'll get it right at 3pm today?

Snaxx
Apr 5, 2009
I am in the same boat. I have done several prepurchases with them and they have always come through.

Also, review embargo is lifted. Generally positive in the first handful.

http://opencritic.com/#!game/1744/anno-2205

metasynthetic
Dec 2, 2005

in one moment, Earth

in the next, Heaven

Megamarm

Snaxx posted:

GreenManGaming has it for $48 with voucher SAVE20-NOVEMB-GAMING. It's a uplay key.

Thanks for this, if the reviews keep positive with the current trend I'll pick it up. $60 was just ridiculous.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer
I'm on the fence. I generally like the Anno games, But $60 is kinda high with Fallout 4 and battlefront releasing over the next few weeks as well.

I'm still gonna buy it aren't I?

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.
Pricing games like we're back in the 90s again became a trend a few years ago, fortunately I don't buy as many as I used to. That said, the game is $69.99 for me, which works out to ~$54USD thanks to our hosed up economy.

Hopefully I get charged before the markets go back up.

totalnewbie
Nov 13, 2005

I was born and raised in China, lived in Japan, and now hold a US passport.

I am wrong in every way, all the damn time.

Ask me about my tattoos.

Popete posted:

I'm on the fence. I generally like the Anno games, But $60 is kinda high with Fallout 4 and battlefront releasing over the next few weeks as well.

I'm still gonna buy it aren't I?

Even if you only play it a few days and then over a weekend, the amount of money you've paid per hour of entertainment is less than if you had gone out to dinner and watched a movie a couple of times. Which, okay, you may not do anyway but it's certainly not exorbitant.

So don't feel bad about buying it.

Womyn Capote
Jul 5, 2004


Steam telling me the game is gonna unlock in 3 hours, pretty awesome surprise for tonight.

PiCroft
Jun 11, 2010

I'm sorry, did I break all your shit? I didn't know it was yours

If 2205 is anything like 2070, I will sink an ungodly amount of time into it, but £60 is a lot to drop on a game and I felt much the same way about Beyond Earth which was a massive letdown.

Think I'll wait till till the price comes down, or make it a Christmas present request.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
It's $70 in Australia which is about £32. Why is it so expensive in the UK?

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


Been watching this dude play, http://www.twitch.tv/arumba07 and outside of him being one of those youtube superstars and flailing about, the game looks like its working pretty neat. Not sure about 60 dollars neat though.

PiCroft
Jun 11, 2010

I'm sorry, did I break all your shit? I didn't know it was yours

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

It's $70 in Australia which is about £32. Why is it so expensive in the UK?

No idea. Its £50 for the regular preorder, £60 for gold edition. I assume gold will jump up to £65 because that price is currently crossed out and I think thats what it will default to when its released (could be wrong though).

So yeah as I said, ANNO is love and life and all that but I'm not sinking that much into it.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

It's $70 in Australia which is about £32. Why is it so expensive in the UK?
i blame jeremy oval office tbh, £60 is mad

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
I guess the Australian Nice Beaches tax has been replaced with the British Pig Fucker tax.

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

No coupon codes that work with it on GMG even and that's usually the cheapest place. Is there any offers at all that aren't exorbitant?

Bhodi
Dec 9, 2007

Oh, it's just a cat.
Pillbug

Demiurge4 posted:

No coupon codes that work with it on GMG even and that's usually the cheapest place. Is there any offers at all that aren't exorbitant?

Two people used this, I think? Is that one not working?

Snaxx posted:

GreenManGaming has it for $48 with voucher SAVE20-NOVEMB-GAMING. It's a uplay key.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
Nuuvem is selling preorders for $129 Brazilian Real.

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

Bhodi posted:

Two people used this, I think? Is that one not working?

That won't go into my Steam library :colbert:

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


For those that watched his stuff, Nanosuit Ninja has a review up for this game and the vid is an hour long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycyaCnYabX0

E: Flip forgot to link, I r smart

Flipswitch fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Nov 2, 2015

PiCroft
Jun 11, 2010

I'm sorry, did I break all your shit? I didn't know it was yours

GMG with the code SAVE20-NOVEMB-GAMING costs £40. Better than nothing, but its almost certainly not Gold so if you're interested you'll probably have to shell out for the inevitable DLC down the line.

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

Does steam let you pre-load?

Good Lord Fisher!
Jul 14, 2006

Groovy!

Yeah, you've been able to preload for a few days now.

Mayveena
Dec 27, 2006

People keep vandalizing my ID photo; I've lodged a complaint with HR
Day zero patch y'all. About 3 minutes to download.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
It's up. There's a 400MB patch presumably to download some exes and assets, but it's out!

Good Lord Fisher!
Jul 14, 2006

Groovy!

It's happening!! Play the game!!!

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Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.
Sadly, Steam keeps bouncing around between ~25 minutes and a week to get whatever it is downloaded here.

:sigh: Happens every time...

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