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I said this in the wwe thread, but it annoyed me a lot. Billy Gunn tearing that guy down for saying mother fucker was the lamest thing I have seen from wwe in a while. "Mr rear end" the guy who's gimmick was showing his rear end to the crowd and telling people to suck his dick if they don't like him is telling a guy to not curse in front of ladies.
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2015 19:57 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 01:54 |
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El Gallinero Gros posted:The difference is his catchphrase was always watered down from a S&P perspective, and motherfucker has never been allowed on any of the networks they've been on. Furthermore, DX's shenanigans with pseudo profanity wouldn't be allowed on their program today. While that's true the whole thing of dressing the guy down in front of everyone because he cursed in front of ladies coming from Mr rear end Billy Gunn just came off as really forced and lame.
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2015 20:06 |
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It would be like Snoop Dogg telling you to cool it on the songs about weed.
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2015 20:07 |
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Benne posted:"Don't say the F word on network TV" is, like, TV training 101. Better to get it out of their system now than to deal with the heat when you accidentally drop "motherfucker" on Raw. It wasn't him telling him not to say the f word though. That's fine and understandable. It's this corporate faux outrage about offending the women in the building that got to me. It's the moral indignation.
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2015 20:40 |
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DynamiteKidd posted:I was actually considering making a video for TE. First I said "I'm a cruiserweight, I can cruiser-wait til next year when I'm in better shape, jack", then I heard they were mostly looking for people who would be reality TV 'characters' so like jeez whatever. Yeah that was kind of bothering me too. I like the first couple seasons when there are a lot of skinny little dorks. Everybody on this season looks to be pretty athletic and will probably pick up wrestling fairly quick. Who knows though. I am glad they brought that Brazilian girl back though. I enjoyed her getting on peoples nerves.
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2015 00:06 |
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ShakeZula posted:This surprised me, since it seemed like Samantha just barely missed the cut while Brazilian girl was roundly disliked. Makes for better reality tv.
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2015 00:13 |
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Codependent Poster posted:Nah, Tanner's right in that Patrick is coming across as fake. He's pushing the "I'm the only fan!" angle too hard. It works though because he is already crafting a gimmick and selling it to the audience, and if he gets voted off he can get the twitter fans talking about how it was rigged and Patrick was the only real fan anyway. It's really smart.
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2015 04:48 |
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Samurai Foochs likes to watch a cute woman cry.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2015 01:41 |
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I honestly liked Gabi. She made me laugh.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2015 01:55 |
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Gabi rules. Only dorks don't like her
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2015 02:00 |
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How has Amanda not been voted off yet. She is just the worst.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2015 02:09 |
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Patrick rules, he is playing the game so perfectly. He is made to be a pro wrestler.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2015 02:16 |
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The rest of the contestants are just pissed at Patrick because he is picking the show up faster than them, and they are being left in the dust.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2015 02:19 |
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pressedbunny posted:Okay, he did do the better promo of the two, but gently caress the cheap USA pop. That's the smartest move you can do in wrestling.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2015 02:21 |
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BUBBA GAY DUDLEY posted:I love when they ask ZZ a question and you can see him absorb it for a good 5 seconds before answering with some endearing or hilarious thing. Yeah ZZ is honestly awesome.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2015 02:27 |
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How the gently caress did Josh not get eliminated. Dude has no personality.
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2015 04:28 |
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Codependent Poster posted:Josh seems okay to me. He's got a personality and seems like a nice guy. What's his personality other than pretty nice guy who happens to be big.
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2015 05:14 |
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sportsgenius86 posted:He's not really like that. Dude obviously hammed it up after the first couple weeks because of all the warnings to not fade into the background. It just bit him in the rear end because he went too over the top. Yeah its pretty obvious he was working the show.
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2015 07:15 |
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oatgan posted:Jeremiah was a crazy egomaniac though and they dodged a bullet not hiring him Yeah because big egos never make money in wrestling.
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2015 23:14 |
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triplexpac posted:That's kind of been the thing about Tough Enough all along: you're giving so many people an audience and a backstory, you might as well just hire them all. I was thinking this the other day. Tough enough would be way better if it was about working wrestlers trying to get a contract.
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# ¿ Jul 24, 2015 03:08 |
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Hulk Hogan said friend of the family.
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# ¿ Jul 24, 2015 08:17 |
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I love Daniel Bryan giggling through the whole thing.
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2015 02:55 |
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Also Mada sucks
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2015 02:56 |
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I think Mada would be really annoying to hang out with.
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2015 02:59 |
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Whats funny is that wwe getting mad at ZZ really kind of highlights some of the problems with wwe. Everyone wants the wrestlers to be able to do literally anything now. Talk, wrestle, be charismatic, and they don't take into consideration that some people just don't have it all. If this was an older promotion they could have ZZ go out there with some really basic rear end training have him be himself take a few bumps and get over by being himself. I always think of ECW and how Paul Heyman made New Jack and Sandman into main event people. Two dudes who couldn't wrestle at all, but they had some weird charisma and he made it so they really didn't need to really wrestle all that much and boom instant stars. They knew that ZZ wasn't in shape and really didn't seem like he wanted to be in shape. Not to mention that he is like 19 years old and really is just doing it for fun. They just really don't look at the long term side of things.
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# ¿ Jul 31, 2015 18:47 |
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sportsgenius86 posted:Be careful what you wish for. Don't put a fat kid on Tough Enough because he's a reality star and then expect him to run his course or whatever. When you bring in some Swamp People kid to try to appeal to a larger audience with your show, you really don't have a right to get lovely when that audience keeps the guy around. I agree, it's not ZZ's fault that they brought him back. It's like when republicans get mad at a republican for blatantly saying something they have been dog whistling for months.
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# ¿ Jul 31, 2015 19:02 |
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yo if anything, dude is a lazy overachiever.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2015 01:18 |
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SamuraiFoochs posted:No one else is learning to sell yet though. I can see why they'd be bothered by that. That doesn't make any sense.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2015 02:07 |
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The Miz is the best goddamn heel in the business. He is firing wild on everyone.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2015 02:08 |
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SamuraiFoochs posted:How does it not make sense? They're running drills, they're doing things mechanically because most of them have no clue what they're doing. They're not being told to sell. So what, why should a person who is clearly more knowledgeable have to go backwards and take baby steps just because the other contestants have no idea what they are doing.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2015 02:11 |
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I love that miz is just trying to be a poo poo stirrer.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2015 02:13 |
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armoredgorilla posted:I hope when this is all over they bring back Tough Talk in some sort of roundtable form where 3-5 wrestlers show up each week and pick something wrestling related to talk about. I would seriously watch this show every episode.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2015 02:18 |
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BUBBA GAY DUDLEY posted:ZZ is gonna be the next Sid. The best wrestler in the world?
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2015 02:22 |
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I love ZZ talking about vegans and he still just comes off as totally cool and likeable.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2015 02:28 |
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I just can't get into Josh at all. He just bores the living piss out of me.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2015 02:31 |
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Hammerstein posted:Exactly this. They always dream of getting the total package, a guy who can wrestle, talk, has the looks and is over with the crowd. They completely forget that for every John Cena you have 50 Zack Ryders or 100 Alex Rileys and that someone who is gifted in all these departments might have other options than sports entertainment. Well think about it like this too. Undertaker didn't become a good worker until pretty recently. He wasn't really a good promo for a really long time either. So how do we fix that? Let Paul Barrer do the talking, and lets make his matches short to make him look dominating. One of the trainers Billy Gunn was pretty good in the ring, but on the mic he really wasn't that interesting. Road Dogg wasn't a good worker, but he was good on the mic. Let's team them up. It doesn't take much to figure this stuff out. Why do they think all these old wrestling tropes like managers and tag teams exist in the first place. They are ways to hide the wrestlers weak areas while emphasizing their strong points. I think WWE just takes themselves way too seriously.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2015 03:52 |
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Charles Gnarwin posted:ZZ not understanding the concept of learning would have been the highlight of Tough Talk if we didn't get Paige being utterly confused by his use of the English language. I honestly don't see the charisma. He bores the poo poo out of me. I think Tanner has some charisma but he doesn't know how to channel it. I was actually thinking while watching Tough Talk Tanner and ZZ would make a good tag team.
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2015 04:07 |
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sportsgenius86 posted:Matt Capiccioni is Son of Havoc in Lucha Underground And he already had a pretty big indy following as M Dogg 20. Dude has been wrestling for a while.
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2015 18:43 |
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Dead Snoopy posted:Mick Foley gets a pass because of the obvious hypocrisy, gender issue aside. Ok, but what does Mick Foley have to do with this?
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# ¿ Aug 27, 2015 19:16 |