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Aerdan
Apr 14, 2012

Not Dennis NEDry

Discendo Vox posted:

All we have is " Immediately after that, the lights went out. " It's really hard for me to tell how to read that- you guys are probably right that it's in the script.

...Man, they are not giving us enough information this time around.

Sure they are. Think about the remote switch. Why is it there and not on her person like it ought to be?

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Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 7 hours!

Aerdan posted:

Sure they are. Think about the remote switch. Why is it there and not on her person like it ought to be?

That's...not my point. We're having to infer salient facts because the language of the material we've been provided is ambiguous.

I was the first one to comment on the squib. If you have an actual theory or explanation to contribute, say it rather than try to be cute about it.

Aerdan
Apr 14, 2012

Not Dennis NEDry

Discendo Vox posted:

That's...not my point. We're having to infer salient facts because the language of the material we've been provided is ambiguous.

I was the first one to comment on the squib. If you have an actual theory or explanation to contribute, say it rather than try to be cute about it.

I can't offer a theory because I've already played this case, unfortunately. I can draw attention to specific bits of evidence I don't think people are giving enough weight, though.

PlaceholderPigeon
Dec 31, 2012

Aerdan posted:

Sure they are. Think about the remote switch. Why is it there and not on her person like it ought to be?

Then there are a few options then, thinking about this

A) Blaise had the squib when the play started

B) Blaise did not have the squib when the play started and it was somewhere else.

If A, how did the squib get to the bin? Assumingly nobody took it and put it there - either, someone took it off her person after she was shot or someone stole it during the play. Both of these have issues

If B, Someone must have activated it. Who would be in a place to do that? Destiny is the main suspect here, but Bray is also possible.

B makes sense because if Blaise was shot during the scene with the real gun she would not be able to activate the squib, having been shot.

This works out nicely - we just need to account for her scream - unless she was dying and screamed during the darkness because of it.

e: I meant the remote control, oops!

PlaceholderPigeon fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Aug 8, 2015

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
I still need to read the update instead of playing EO2U. :shepicide:

Aerdan
Apr 14, 2012

Not Dennis NEDry
edit: accidental spoilers, oh poo poo. sorry. :(

Aerdan fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Aug 8, 2015

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

The backstage crew is basically the butler of a play, so my money's on Bray.

whitehelm
Apr 20, 2008

*Editting everything out because Aerdan did.

whitehelm fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Aug 8, 2015

Aerdan
Apr 14, 2012

Not Dennis NEDry

Mind editing the quote out? I hosed up, sorry.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.


I'm at work, so I haven't really read the scene investigation stuff, but what stands out to me in the story itself is that the lights went out to the degree that people couldn't even see who was standing immediately next to them, and yet the actress yelled for help BEFORE the second shot.

She couldn't have seen the gun being pointed at her, so she either was already shot and was calling for medical attention, or someone faked her scream. I find it odd that she wouldn't immediately be like "Oh poo poo!" upon being shot, to the point that Roscoe could get back stage before she shouted for help, but maybe she was in shock or something.

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
I've got no clue what's actually going on here but this is a pretty neat collection of evidence to build from. Can't wait for all the conversations with the showbiz people.

PlaceholderPigeon
Dec 31, 2012
Hmm, it occurs to me that I missed something obvious.

Wouldn't shooting the squib directly make the fake blood come out just like it was triggered remotely?

Of course, we don't have many details on the size/shape of the squib. But if the play was choreographed such that it was placed exactly where Roscoe was shooting then there's a decent chance the person who switch the guns could expect that the squib might get triggered by itself - so we can also add the possibility that the Remote Control was thrown out because the person who orchestrated the shooting had no reason to use it!

HydroSphere
Feb 11, 2014





Hmm, and how have you reached that conclusion?

Because Knox were the closest person to Blaise when she were shot!

But don't you see the problem?

How could she have put the gun in Clegg's hand?

Hmm...

No, let me tell you what I think.

I think Strapping is our man.

What?

Okay then.



Well, from where I'm standing, I'd say...

...Strapping did it!

Excellent. I agree.

Ha! I knew it!

Yes, I'd say it's...



…92.9% certain that he is the culprit.

Well, we best call the man in and have him put paid to your doubts about the other 7.1% then!

Exactly what I was hoping to do.

But I'm not sure he'll come.

As a murder suspect, you'd think that Strapping wouldn't get a say in whether he wants to come in or not.

Let's take a moment to consider what we already know about Strapping.

I know something. Roscoe Strapping – stud of the stage! Engaged to be married, but engaged in you-know-what with another lass at the same time!

At least that's what they said ont' Jeremy Summer Show.

DC Baker, the best friend of tabloid newspapers and daytime talk programmes.

So our suspect is something of a cad.




The worst kind of man, and the enemy of all women!

But that's not what we should be focusing on here. There's something else that interests me.

Oh aye? What's that?



And Strapping is one of the best.

Could be a tough nut to crack then, eh, Prof?

Doorbell rings.

Eh-up, we've got company. Who are you?






Well, well. What a belle! An unexpected pleasure, I must say. Are you a fan, precious?

You wish!

I'm a research assistant here in the Mystery Room. DC Baker to you.

This is the Mystery Room? The very place I've been looking for!

You must be Roscoe Strapping.

Amazing deductive reasoning there, Alfendi.

The one and only.

My fame and talent precede me, I see. Good.

And you are?

I work here in the Mystery Room with Detective Constable Baker. Inspector Layton's the name.

Might I ask why you're here?



So I came to solve the mystery.

Huh?

Well, that would be a great help.

Please, enlighten us.




So, without further ado, I present to you the truth! The identity of the black-hearted miscreant responsible for my late wife-to-be's demise! It was...da-da-daah...



Well, you're quite the detective, aren't you, Mr Strapping?

It is an elementary case of deduction, my dear.

Firstly, he was crushed by unrequited love.

And secondly, the prize simpleton was found holding the murder weapon!

Simply following these two lines of investigation leads you directly to the unequivocal truth.



Hm, I see you're fairly fixed on your line of enquiry.

Aren't you going set this upstart straight, Prof?

: On the contrary, I think Mr Strapping has some very compelling theories.

So...

Let the investigation begin!

…...

He stole the Prof's line!

Blaise's wound:

Investigating the wound means checking out the body, right?

Would you like a strong man to escort you?

I'll be just fine, thank you very much!







Hm, a single shot to the heart from between one and three metres away, resulting in instant death.

Exactly! From the barrel of the very revolver found in Clegg's guilty hand!



Please, try to remain calm. Let's continue with our investigation, shall we?

Of course. Do excuse me.

The bullet passed straight through the victim's body.

We should be able to find it somewhere on the scene.





This is it, Prof!



I'll figure it out in a jiffy!

Not so fast!

We already know that Gloria's life was taken by a bullet.





Strapping was certainly quick to object to the idea of plotting the bullets trajectory.




Ha ha ha! That was my position on stage.



What's your reasoning, Lucy?





That's within one to three meters distance from the body. Yes, it's indeed likely the shot originated here.






Pardon me?

When the shot was heard, it was pitch black on stage.



Bordering on, perhaps. Yet alack, my Gloria's life was taken with one such miserable slug.

And not with his magically disappearing and reappearing walking stick.



No, very true. Nothing will bring Ms Blaise back to life, but--

The final curtain has already fallen! There is nothing more to say!


HydroSphere fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Aug 9, 2015

Drakenel
Dec 2, 2008

The glow is a guide, my friend. Though it falls to you to avert catastrophe, you will never fight alone.
How exciting. I always loved the phoenix wright games, and this follows a somewhat similar dialogue style. Investigations are just as interesting.

Kegluneq
Feb 18, 2011

Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...

I'm pretty certain Layton is wrong about this, which is interesting. Strapping fired the deadly shot, but the weapon may have been switched before he got his hands on it. It's still not clear who could have done that, but I'm wondering if the gameplay style would even allow for it to be Blaise who arranged the switch.

Nidoking
Jan 27, 2009

I fought the lava, and the lava won.
Come to think of it, a prop gun would have to look somewhat like a real gun, but would it FEEL like a real gun? How likely is it that Roscoe would be holding a real gun (with six real bullets in it) and think it was the prop he'd been rehearsing with?

whitehelm
Apr 20, 2008

Kegluneq posted:

I'm pretty certain Layton is wrong about this, which is interesting. Strapping fired the deadly shot, but the weapon may have been switched before he got his hands on it. It's still not clear who could have done that, but I'm wondering if the gameplay style would even allow for it to be Blaise who arranged the switch.

If Strapping didn't know about the gun switch, why would he go knock Clegg out and put the gun in his hand? Plus Layton does have a 7.1% uncertainty right now.

Kegluneq
Feb 18, 2011

Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...

Nidoking posted:

Come to think of it, a prop gun would have to look somewhat like a real gun, but would it FEEL like a real gun? How likely is it that Roscoe would be holding a real gun (with six real bullets in it) and think it was the prop he'd been rehearsing with?

Probably quite likely - guns firing blanks are very similar to real ones. It might feel different to fire, though. Maybe he realised he'd been duped at that point?

inflatablefish
Oct 24, 2010

Kegluneq posted:

I'm pretty certain Layton is wrong about this, which is interesting. Strapping fired the deadly shot, but the weapon may have been switched before he got his hands on it. It's still not clear who could have done that, but I'm wondering if the gameplay style would even allow for it to be Blaise who arranged the switch.

Nah. He's a suspect who's come in to solve our investigation for us. If Columbo has taught me anything, the guy's guilty as hell.

PlaceholderPigeon
Dec 31, 2012
Im not sure whats surprising about him doing it yet, unless we're supposed to be amazed by the double bluff. Unless he's covering for her suicide really hard and thats the surprise.

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry

Kegluneq posted:

Probably quite likely - guns firing blanks are very similar to real ones. It might feel different to fire, though. Maybe he realised he'd been duped at that point?

I could see how that would explain things easily enough. Dude's panicked and pinning it on the first patsy he can think of.

...man, what if this is really just a tragic accident? Covered up like it's a murder, of course, but wouldn't that be a twist?

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

Glazius posted:

I could see how that would explain things easily enough. Dude's panicked and pinning it on the first patsy he can think of.

...man, what if this is really just a tragic accident? Covered up like it's a murder, of course, but wouldn't that be a twist?

It's possible, there had been tragic deaths due to prop guns being fired at too close range, or how Brandon Lee died: a fragment of the original dummy bullet was left in the chamber and when they fired a blank - that dummy fired with the same force as a live round.

EDIT: if we assume the fatal bullet is a prop, the lowball end of the firing range (1m/3feet) is pretty drat close.

Robindaybird fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Aug 10, 2015

Mzbundifund
Nov 5, 2011

I'm afraid so.
As funny as it would be, the note, the blackout, not to mention the presence of a real gun at all, all pretty much rule out this as an accident.

HydroSphere
Feb 11, 2014





Clegg's gun:

Hadn't we better look for the gun that Clegg used, eh?

An excellent idea. And while you do that, I'll set about finding the way to your heart.

Trying to flirt while investigating your fiancée’s murder is rather poor form, to say the least.

Eh? You what?





Brava!



Give over! I'm nowt special!

The barrel of this very gun carried the bullet that pierced my beloved's heart and stole her from me!

When you examine the evidence, that is exactly what you shall find.





Here he is. Here's Clegg!



Excellent work, angel-face! What fantastic eyes you have!



:stare: If Strapping keeps this up, Lucy would probably be able to get him on a charge of harassment, whether he's the murderer or not.



Pity.

Still at least now we have conclusive proof that Clegg was in possession of...the murder weapon!



Let's not forget one rather crucial thing.




Let's assume for a moment that Clegg is guilty, and that he knocked himself out to avoid suspicion.



Do you see why, Lucy?





Well, if I were trying to make it look like I hadn't done it, I'd have chucked that gun away for starters.

Exactly.

Whatever plot you came up with to divert suspicion from you, it would not involve holding the gun.



Tut-tut. You make such assumptions without knowing the man.

I tell you, he is a fool! A complete imbecile.



I see. Well, there's nothing more we can say on the matter then.

Unfortunately not. The man is witless, and that's all there is to it.




Well, I think that settles it. Clegg is the killer. There can be no doubt.

What planet have you been on all this time, eh?

Let's recap.

The victim, Gloria Blaise, was killed by a single bullet.

And the person found holding the gun was none other than Clegg!

However, Clegg was hit by someone and knocked unconscious.

And if he'd been trying to make it look like he hadn't done it, he'd never have kept hold of the gun.

But he's a complete clot. He hasn't the brains to work that out.

The other thing we know for certain is where Ms Blaise was shot from.



Yes, by a cruel twist of fate, my beloved seems to have been shot from the very spot where I stood.

The problem is in the timing. To shoot somebody from anything other than point blank range in total darkness is bordering on the impossible.

Then it was a fluke. This is completely irrelevant.

However...

Never mind all that! I've just remembered something of vital importance!

Oh? What's that then, out of the blue?



Eh?

With that additional evidence, you will have no choice but to acknowledge Clegg must be the killer.

It seems we have some more investigating to do.

Indeed you do! Find the death threat!



Now picture the scene...

Clegg falls in love with the beautiful Gloria, but his passion is resolutely rejected.

Consumed by self-pity and rage, he sends a death threat to the poor, defenceless flower.

So where's this death threat now then, eh?

Somewhere at the scene of the crime, naturally.

No one ever seems bothered that the investigation of the crime scene is done via a computer simulation, bearing in mind that the crime reconstruction machine is unique.

One of the detectives who came to the theatre told me of it. I'm quite sure it's there.

But you haven't actually seen it with your own eyes, though?

Ha ha ha! I don't need to see it to know what artless piffle Clegg no doubt came up with!

Now go and find it! Find the note that contains the incriminating death threat!





Excellent work, Lucy.

That's for the Prof to decide, Mr Strapping, not you.

'You'll pay for betraying me'. I see.

Isn't it a bit funny that it says that? 'Betraying,' I mean.

It makes it sound like Clegg and Blaise had had a fling or summat.

Utter tosh! Gloria only had eyes for me!



Th-That's one possible explanation, yes.

So who were it that Ms Blaise had done the dirty on then, eh?

Of course! It's so obvious. The killer must have been a member of the audience.

Gloria had countless fanatical followers. Picture the scene...A fan consumed with jealously over Gloria's engagement to me.

O my poor beloved! How you shook like a little lamb whene'er you opened one of their tasteless letters.





Be 'eck, Prof! If we have to pull in everyone from the audience for questioning, we'll be here all year!

Phone rings.

Eh-up that's the phone.

Excuse me a moment.

Lucy leaves.







:sigh:

I beg your pardon?

You must be, surely!

A true stallion would be sure to get a little frisky, cooped up here with such a fine young filly.

Not only is Strapping trying to flirt with Lucy, not long after his fiancée was murdered, he's trying it on in front who he believes to be Lucy's boyfriend.



I'm torn between wanting to roll my eyes at how serious Stapping is here, and amusement at "Frigid Fendi".

Eh?

You're a red-blooded male, aren't you?

Alfendi moves towards Strapping at this point; it's to make space for Lucy who's about to reappear, but when I first played this, I thought Alfendi was about to fly into Extremendi/Evil Al/Alfiend mode again and start screaming at Strapping. I was disappointed. :(



That were your manager on the phone. There's a famous chap at your office who wants words with you at your office.

Good gracious, is that the time? It must be that bore of a two-billion pound film I'm supposed to be acting in.

T-two bill...

Naturally, they wanted me as the headliner. What was it now? A pirate film, I think.

Well, it sounds very important. You won't want to keep them waiting, I imagine?

Hm, well, seeing as we've proved who the murderer is, I shall take this opportunity to make my exit.

Alright. Ta-tah, then. We'll be seeing you.



It's DC Baker to you.

Adieu!

Strapping leaves.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
I really hate this guy. He's like Zak Gramarye, Max Galactica, and Larry Butz rolled into one unpleasant package.

HydroSphere posted:

Trying to flirt while investigating your fiancée’s murder is rather poor form, to say the least.

At least Baker isn't on a leash. :v:

The fact that Strapping is considered by them to be the killer when Lucy said no one could have guessed pretty much makes me believe that it's a set-up.

If I had to make a premature guess, I'd wager the note left on Blaise's body was from her (though likely not in her handwriting) and meant for Strapping, I suppose. Perhaps for his cheating ways? And the gun that was given to him was real and meant to frame him for murder.

Perhaps a collaboration with Knox, explaining the voice in the darkness?

Blueberry Pancakes fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Aug 12, 2015

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

Holy poo poo what a creep. If he was like that with every woman, cripes.

Kangra
May 7, 2012

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

The fact that Strapping is considered by them to be the killer when Lucy said no one could have guessed pretty much makes me believe that it's a set-up.

If I had to make a premature guess, I'd wager the note left on Blaise's body was from her (though likely not in her handwriting) and meant for Strapping, I suppose. Perhaps for his cheating ways? And the gun that was given to him was real and meant to frame him for murder.

Perhaps a collaboration with Knox, explaining the voice in the darkness?

How and why would Clegg be knocked out in that scenario?

The things we seem to know at this point:

Blaise was killed by the gun fired by Roscoe.
Destiny & Roscoe bumped into each other. This seems intentional and a possible transfer point for the real gun.
The woman screaming was not Blaise, as she appeared to be killed nearly instantly. So either Destiny or a recording.
The second shot was fired from the prop gun.
Either Blaise never had the squib remote on her when she went onstage, or it was removed after she was shot.

If we are certain that normally only Roscoe would have had access to the prop gun then Destiny has to be involved as the only way to swap was to bump into him. She may or may not have acted alone.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

Kangra posted:

How and why would Clegg be knocked out in that scenario?

Not sure. It is just a theory at this point.

John Lee
Mar 2, 2013

A time traveling adventure everyone can enjoy

Robindaybird posted:

Holy poo poo what a creep. If he was like that with every woman, cripes.

Honestly, I think it's be less creepy if he were like that with every woman. Also:



HydroSphere posted:


Naturally, they wanted me as the headliner. What was it now? A pirate film, I think.

...Is he Johnny Depp?

Kegluneq
Feb 18, 2011

Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...

John Lee posted:

Honestly, I think it's be less creepy if he were like that with every woman. Also:


...Is he Johnny Depp?

More likely to be Errol Flynn, who was a notorious womaniser and had a fancy 'tache. He also had a good line in pirate films. (£2billion seems waaay too much for the apparent setting of this game though and is probably a reference to the PotC budget.)

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

John Lee posted:

...Is he Johnny Depp?

Johnny Dapper going by that suit.

HydroSphere
Feb 11, 2014

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

At least Baker isn't on a leash. :v:

No, that's probably one of the "fantastic perks" to being Strappings' PA. :eek:





Do you really think he did it?

Without a shadow of a doubt.

We still have a number of riddles to solve, but he's a very intelligent adversary.

Oh, aye? He doesn't seem that sharp to me.

He very carefully and deliberately diverts the conversation away from the most crucial point.

The most crucial point? What's that then?




Are you saying that Blaise weren't shot when it all went dark?

Do you recall where we concluded the shot was fired from?

Aye, from where Strapping had been standing on stage, weren't it?

Yes, and to hit Blaise from that distance with a single shot in the dark would be impossible.

But we know that's where she were done in from, don't we? So...

We do. There's no disputing where the shot was fired from.

But when the shot was fired – that's a detail about which we still have some room for manoeuvre.

What do you mean, when it were fired?

I mean, if only it hadn't been pitch black, Blaise would have been an easy shot from that location.

Do you see? So now, when you do think the shot was fired that killed Blaise?





By 'eck Prof! Not during the performance?

Exactly.

We know where the shooter was standing, and we know there was the noise of a gunshot.

When you consider those two facts together, there's only one logical conclusion.



Correct.

Unbelievable...

We can almost be certain that's the truth of the matter, but it's just a theory at this stage.

We need to find some evidence that Blaise was actually shot while the performance was underway.

I hear you, Prof! I'm on it!






I found a remote control, Prof!

Ah, that must have been used to detonate the squib and burst Blaise's bladder of fake blood.

Blaise would've been the one to push the button, wouldn't she?

So how come it were chucked away here in the bin?

Yes, what does that tell us, do you think, Lucy?





If the remote's here in the bin, then chances are Blaise never pushed the button at all.

There you have it.

Despite failing to trigger the squib, blood poured from Blaise's wound during the performance.

Because she were actually shot with a real gun!

And we have the entire audience as witnesses.

That's hard evidence then, isn't it, Prof?

Yes. Well done.

Hee hee hee.

Let's hand the remote over to forensics and have them confirm the button was never pressed.

I'll go and ask them right this minute.

Lucy leaves and then returns.

I've been and asked them.



That, Lucy, is the biggest mystery of this case. If his aim had been even slightly off, he'd have given himself away in an instant.

Hmm, it's hard to see what was driving him, I must say.

Well, there's no point worrying about what we don't yet know.

Let's continue our investigation based on what we do know.

Blaise was shot with a real gun in the final scene of the performance.

Now we've established that, the events that followed in the darkness start to fall into place.

Oh aye, there's plenty of questions need answering now.

Firstly, Blaise's scream. And secondly, the gunshot that ran out through the darkness.

Let's get to the bottom of those two curiosities.




Shot in the dark.

Let's get this straight. If Blaise were killed during the performance...what were the shot that everyone heard when the lights went out?

My guess is that it was fired by Strapping as part of the whole deception.

There's sure to be evidence on the scene somewhere that proves he fired a second shot.

I'd best get looking then!




This is what he used! Strapping must've have used this replica gun, no? I bet that's it.

Let's see. The prop gun was found behind the set.

He would have had to work his way round to knock Clegg from here then, if you're right.

Is there any evidence you can find that would support that idea, Lucy?



These oil stains are a bit telling, aren't they?

Ah, yes. That must be from the oil used to lubricate the replica gun.

He must've have been running his hand along the back of the set here to feel his way int' dark!

Without a doubt.

That's how Strapping worked his way over to where Clegg was.

He groped around in the dark until he located him, then hit him and knocked him out.

Nasty stuff.

This shows us the person who had the replica gun passed this way. In other words, it's proof that Strapping crossed behind the back of the stage in the dark.

We're getting closer, Prof!



Scream in the dark.

So if Blaise were dead as a doornail already before it went dark, she'd have had a hard time screaming, eh?

The most obvious explanation is that it was someone else who screamed.

So, Lucy, who do you think actually let out the scream in the darkness?





Well, if it weren't Blaise who screamed, the only other possibility is that Knox lass.

Quite. Neither Strapping nor Clegg could have convincingly imitated a woman's scream.

But that's not quite the whole story.

We already have evidence to suggest that Strapping told Knox to scream.

We do?

Yes. It's all there in the suspect statements.

Which statement tells us when Strapping most probably told Knox to scream?




Eh-up! 'Mr Strapping bumped into Destiny.' That sounds dead fishy, that does.

Agreed.

Knocking her over would have given him ample time to tell her what he wanted her to do.

What, so Knox was an accomplice, then?

Not exactly.

If she were really his accomplice, they would have plotted the whole thing together from the start.

If Alfendi's theory is correct, Knox lied in her witness statement, and since Strapping told her to scream, it raises the question if Knox knows that Strapping did it.

Aye, why didn't they? That's a bit odd isn't it?

It seems there's yet more to this case than meets the eye.




We've homed in on the truth, it seems.

It's subtle, but Alfendi's attitude to Lucy seems to have changed slightly since case 2. Unlike cases one and two, Alfendi accepted Lucy naming Strapping as the culprit based on her intuition without question, and while Alfendi is still prompting Lucy to explain contradictions and the meaning of pieces of evidence, he's stopped the occasional asking Lucy if she does "appreciate what the inconsistency is exactly?" Whether this is because Alfendi thinks Lucy's deductive skills have improved, and/or because she didn't run away/start acting differently after seeing Alfendi's "other side", or maybe it's simply that Alfendi and Lucy are getting more used to each other.

And proved that Strapping's the killer!

Phone Rings.

Oh, that's the phone.

I'll get it.

Lucy leaves and then returns.

It were forensics. They said the remote switch weren't pressed, just as we thought.

At least they waited for the results from forensics this time.



Music stops.



That clinches it.

Shall I call Strapping in?

There's still something that's troubling me a little, but...

I'm sure we've got enough. Yes, call him in.

Ee, I can't tell you how much I've been waiting for this!



Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
I wonder what the twist is going to be. Things seem to be moving too smoothly so far.

HydroSphere posted:

No, that's probably one of the "fantastic perks" to being Strappings' PA. :eek:

:barf:

John Lee
Mar 2, 2013

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Kegluneq posted:

More likely to be Errol Flynn, who was a notorious womaniser and had a fancy 'tache. He also had a good line in pirate films.

drat, you're right. I can't believe I missed that.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013
Probation
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Urgh, so far this is much too simple. Have they explained the two forms of blood found at the corpse and their order?

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
Well, Layton does say Strapping's likely to have something up his sleeve. I imagine this is where he reveals his Queen's Gambit Declined or whatever.

Kegluneq
Feb 18, 2011

Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...

Discendo Vox posted:

Urgh, so far this is much too simple. Have they explained the two forms of blood found at the corpse and their order?

To be honest I just saw that as the two forms of blood being made clearly distinct. I think they both were made at the same time, when Blaise was shot; the squib apparently couldn't have been set off by the trigger anyway.

The trigger not being used actually makes more sense now, as it confirms that the first shot fired was the killing one. There are two people who could feasibly have put it in the bin. Knox, who first got to Blaise once the lights came on, and Blaise herself. If we assume Knox is responsible for switching the guns, then she also has an incentive to remove the trigger, as it not being used would prove the fatal shot was the first fired. However, the absence of the trigger (and its straightforward discovery) suggests this would not have been a great plan. Alternatively, Blaise could have discarded the trigger before the scene if she always intended for a dramatic on-stage suicide that would plainly incriminate Strapping. I realise there are obviously a lot of holes in these ideas though, not least the fact that we can't assume Knox had any interaction with the crime scene after the death was discovered.

One other thing that intrigues me on reviewing the first post from this case is that Strapping is left handed, which is significant in that the image for the 'second shot' shows someone firing left-handed, and whoever set up Clegg also made him look as if he fired left-handed (he would have had to to get the shot from that position, but he appears to be actually right-handed from the pin-cushion thing on his left wrist). But whoever worked their way across the back of the stage used their right hand to find their way, which shouldn't have been stained with gun oil. This may suggest that it was Knox who knocked out Clegg, having handled the real gun in her right hand, but that doesn't explain the 'second shot' image showing the blank being fired, unless we assume Strapping was an accomplice. I'm assuming here that Clegg will turn out to have been knocked out with the butt of the real gun, which could be done by either Strapping or Knox.

HydroSphere
Feb 11, 2014








I'm telling you, this is strictly business!

Mr Strapping, if I may...?





The killer, Mr Strapping...






What a disappointment. You really are an artless pair.

I have already laid it out for you on a platter. The killer was hiding in the audience. He or she made their way onto the stage in the darkness and pulled the trigger.



Sorry, but that doesn't stack up.

It'd be almost impossible to have killed her with a single shot. And here's why...



When the gunshot was heard, the stage were in total darkness.



Ah, yes. I remember you suggesting that idea before.



On the contrary.



I'm quite sure I don't follow. An explanation, sir, if you please!



Ms Blaise weren't killed during the blackout at all, were she? No, her life ended a few moments earlier...



What a fantastical idea!




Then, pray tell, how do you explain the blood-curdling scream that pierced the darkness?





Wh-what rot! You're clutching at straws now. Everyone actually there said it was Gloria who screamed.

That's just because when the lights came back up, they saw Ms Blaise lying dead ont' stage.



And just before the lights went out, you bumped into Ms Knox. It's in Mr Clegg's statement.




We're not deluded at all. You know it's the truth. Stop trying to deny it!

I have absolutely no recollection of anything you're saying.

Your so-called evidence is all circumstantial. Do you actually have any conclusive proof at all?




How about this for starters?



Isn't that the squib remote?

Aye.

Which should have been carried by Ms Blaise for her to push the button in time with you firing the blank.

But, Mr Strapping, the button were never pressed.



No...That can't...

There's only one explanation for it that makes any sense.

I think you know what that is, don't you, Mr Strapping?



Clearly Gloria just forgot to take the remote control with her that time...

There's no way out of this, Mr Strapping. You can't explain it away.



I...Erm...

Nonsense!

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

It's solved, guess we can go home now.

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Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
I was expecting Alfiendish to show up. Maybe when we confront the real Killer (or their accomplice, if it actually was Gloria who set things up).

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