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Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

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I made that logo, so I guess I kind of have to.

Claiming vt before Other PM gets the chance.

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Jan 2, 2005

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Actually, Battlestar: Mafia isn't a half bad idea. Maybe I'll do that after this.

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Jan 2, 2005

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By which I mean, I call it.

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Jan 2, 2005

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Propaganda Machine posted:

Claiming vt before Other PM gets the chance.

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Jan 2, 2005

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Chic Trombone posted:

yo garth fyi you gotta bold your votes like so (##vote imgay) for them to be seen by our robotic overlord votefinder

Is this a real vote?

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Jan 2, 2005

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We surveyed 100 goons and asked:

What was the worst challenge in Awful Survivor history?

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Jan 2, 2005

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garthoneeye posted:

Awful Match Game

:vince:

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Jan 2, 2005

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Chic Trombone posted:

I mean at least there'd be actual information then

:agreed:

##vote imgay and see if he replaces his relentless content-free shitposting with content

And when I was looking up that emoticon I found

:aatrek:

happy to help

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Jan 2, 2005

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Masterchef Australia is amazing. It doesn't have Gordon Ramsey or gross incompetence, but I guess that's why I like it so much.

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Jan 2, 2005

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MMM Whatchya Say posted:

By the way guys I have replacements at the ready so if anybody isn't feeling up to playing this game you can PM me about it by tomorrow and we'll sort it out.

Also in a similar vein if I see low post counts by tomorrow, like if some people have still only made a handful of posts I'll be having a talk with them.

I hate replacing after day 1 so I'm trying to be proactive here.

And the deadline will be Monday.

Define handful?

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Jan 2, 2005

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DaisyDanger posted:

I mean I guess right now this first vote is primarily going to be driven by behaviors exhibited in previous games, right? I have no idea how people behave when they play this, so I'm just along for the ride at this point. :shrug:

Beautiful as that omgus chain is, it's kind of irritating.

D1 is frustrating at best.

DID YOU KNOW that Battleship Mafia came right after the season with the Battleship challenge, and was even more irritating than single-space subs?!

Not even joking. There was an unenforceable thunderdome on D1.

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Jan 2, 2005

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Fast Luck posted:

Also I think pmach has been fed up with dying on d1 in the past so I think that's the reasoning for TT trying to aggressively steer the vote off her

I got over it, so it happened again just recently in hiphopfia.

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Jan 2, 2005

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TMMadman posted:

Or Fast gently caress.

Last gently caress is popular.

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Jan 2, 2005

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Jan 2, 2005

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TMMadman posted:

WHATCHA GONNA DO WHEN SWOLFIA RUNS WILD ON YOU?

cry, mostly

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Jan 2, 2005

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That's my feeling as well. That's why I put my D1 vote on diqnol in hiphopfia and stuck to it; he was being verbose and unproductive and aggressive. I got lynched. He ended up being scum and--did you guys read that earlier today? With Hurt and Hal? What a cool final play. But he was loving scum.

I'm not well-versed enough to know if this is policy or meta, but my thinking is that the shitposting is really counterproductive and for a D1 vote, I don't know what else to put out there.

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Jan 2, 2005

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HiipFire posted:

I like imgay and I think that policy lynching him just because he's in this game is dumb

he's definitely no Harold Krell

Yeah, but PMush is the other person with votes at the moment, and she's been scumhunting more than anybody else so far.

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Jan 2, 2005

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Tremendous Taste posted:

Ah, you think her entire posting is bad and incomprehensible, which means she's town

Is that a PMush thing?

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Jan 2, 2005

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Tremendous Taste posted:

Your defense is that you're policy voting someone off of salt rather than reading the game and making a valuable vote

Smh

I read the game and thought imgay was the best vote available. I can see the reasoning on PMush, but the fact remains that imgay has done nothing to change my mind. Reading his prior games after the fact is....illuminating..., but it's not why I voted for him in the first place, and I'd still get rid of somebody who contributes nothing over somebody who's trying.

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Jan 2, 2005

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Tremendous Taste posted:

That's not the case though, he's contributing more than a decent number of players

He (jokingly, to be fair) scumclaimed, and posted a link to a Brass Eye video, which is not a contribution to be ignored. He also called the votes against him lazy.

But the thing is, it's hard to blame people for not having much to say right now. Is there another content-free poster you'd rather lynch, or are you really that confident against PMush?

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Jan 2, 2005

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But, like,

Fast Luck posted:

I haven't really liked the reasoning of any of PMush's posting but I've so consistently been stumped by it (especially her interpretation of Chic's posting) that I now think she just sees things differently than I do. I'd rather vote for Allen right now.

I kind of agree with this. Her logic is ridiculous, but it feels genuine. Wouldn't she build a more solid, 100% bullshit case if she were scum? She's making cases but she's not really pushing them.

Then again, she could just be throwing poo poo at the wall to see what sticks.

Hmm.

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Jan 2, 2005

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Fast Luck posted:

I'm curious about EXAKT's campaigning for 8bux:



What's the reasoning here, why is 8bux pinging as scummy?

I don't think he is. I think EXAKT is pinging as a crazy person.

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Jan 2, 2005

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Tremendous Taste posted:

we have people generating bad content

I agree.


King Burgundy posted:

If he's scum and we have no vig, that will never happen. If he's not scum, I can't see many scenarios where he would be one of the first choices for them to kill.

Also, his post about how other people need to stop adding noise to the thread was an example of a truly bad post that had no place coming from him. He was faking outrage or something. Read it again.

Here:



imgay posted:

breading crumbing goku

imgay posted:

why is cuckold such a popular porn genre?

imgay posted:

Confirmed tumor on arm that resembles a bicep. You know, like in Pop Eye?

imgay posted:

My scum team is Jato, Pinterest Mom, King Burgundy, and Chic Trombone.

imgay posted:

I know this because I had a dream.


Five years later

imgay posted:

Holy poo poo. Why are people basing their votes on previous games played. The only thing that should matter in this thread is content in this thread. Policy voting metacasing opinions on previous games don't matter and you are just adding noise to the thread. Stop it

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Jan 2, 2005

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But he does have a truth bomb every once in about two dozen posts:

imgay posted:

Fluck, you are putting a lot of effort into this.

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Jan 2, 2005

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Exakt has like five posts, but since three of them are ridiculous pushes for people to vote you I can understand your irritation. So he has a small fraction of the bullshit.

HiipFire seems to be at about 50/50 for jokeposts/content, but the jokeposts have tapered off and he actually making arguments and using rationality at this point. Like,

HiipFire posted:

imo people either make jokevotes D1 or they make up some convoluted/made up reason so they can look like they're scumhunting

HiipFire posted:

idk I think PMush is always very sincere in her posts, but they always seem to go one step too far in their logic

HiipFire posted:

I like imgay and I think that policy lynching him just because he's in this game is dumb

he's definitely no Harold Krell

HiipFire posted:

I would have if I had any, there's a reason I haven't put a vote down yet

It's not winning any Nobel prizes, but at least it's consistent and involves some degree of thought.

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Jan 2, 2005

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Tremendous Taste posted:

Imgay isn't entertaining bad content, he's generating null content. Poison mushroom is generating bad content.

If you want to hunt out a null content guy look at Allen.

I kind of half-agree, I guess. I think imgay's stuff is more halfway between null and bad. I'm more bothered that the few content posts of his are so aggressively bad.

As for PMush, as I said before, her logic is shaky, but she's giving us stuff to argue about, even if it's just getting shot down.

Eight Dollars posted:

I'd also throw Chic in that second category too.

There is so much emptiness right now!


Eight Dollars posted:

^I mean the first category whoops. It's just a void right now.

What do you think of this read on Chic?

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Jan 2, 2005

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TMMadman posted:

I'm sure I will see the logic of it after a game or two.

Maybe this will help?

The relevant info:

quote:

Let's take your classic newbie setup, as an example.
7 town
2 scum

Let's say that the town decide to NL D1, but lynch every day from then, and scum also kills every night.
Day 2: 6 town, 2 scum. (25% chance of hitting scum)
Day 3: 4 town, 2 scum. (33% chance of hitting scum)

Now let's say town lynch D1:
D2: 5 town, 2 scum. (28.5% chance of hitting scum)
Day 3: 3 town, 2 scum. (40% chance of hitting scum)

As you can see, the town have a greater chance of hitting scum if they lynch anyone D1. There's some rule about that, it's in the wiki somewhere.
This is just from a statistical PoV, but lynching D1 is almost always better.

Does that make sense?

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Jan 2, 2005

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Tremendous Taste posted:

That's such a bad argument ahhhh

We are not clones playing vanilla in a vacuum !!!

Sorry, it was from quick google. I'm honestly still trying to wrap my brain around it because honestly the logic evades me as well.

Basically, I still don't see a great reason to vote PMush. She reads sincere and I disagree that her posts are so bad that it's worth getting rid of her just for the sake of avoiding a no lynch. I need a way to wrap my head around it and vanilla zombie mafia stats make more sense to me than anything else.

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Jan 2, 2005

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TMMadman posted:

Yeah, and I mean I kind of got it before that, but it also seems like it can be a popularity contest. Although I even get that sometimes too.

It definitely seems that way sometimes, but this is a friendly group of folks and I don't think anybody in here is seriously bitter towards anyone else. Just here to play mafia and get over Survivor. They're both games that require cooperation and disclosure in order to eliminate threats, and a bunch of us do know each other from before, but we don't bite, and in mafia, logic trumps outside relationships.

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Jan 2, 2005

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Tremendous Taste posted:

I'm suspect of anyone defending someone posting bad content as a town tell. If that was the standard I'd never lose as scum

So do you honestly think PMush is scum, or are you just trying to clean up the content?

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Jan 2, 2005

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TMMadman posted:

In non game news, I'm pretty sure that Hell is one giant DMV waiting room with some minor changes. First, the somewhat pleasant female voice announcing numbers would be replaced by a grating male voice shouting numbers at an impossibly loud volume. Second, even though your number always seems to be three away from the being called, you actually don't want it to be called.

John Oliver had a nice DMV dig this week, and it was fitting that even though he's in New York, the photoshop used the California DMV imagery. I've never actually minded the DMV, but California is SO MUCH FUN!

1) You're supposed to make an appointment online. I guess you don't have to if you have all day to wait in line. Of course, they don't tell you this; they just make you to feel like you have to make the appointment, and, by the way, nothing's available for, like, the next month.

2) Got that appointment? You'll be waiting for over an hour anyway.

3) Got a driver's license somewhere else? Passed the exam? That's cool; you need to take it again, under California's ridiculous, drug-induced driving laws. Changing lanes three at a time, neglecting to signal, driving drunk, going at 35 mph to merge onto any given freeway, and driving 15 mph under the limit are all on there, and you'll feel stupid yet proud when you barely manage to pass.

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Jan 2, 2005

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Eight Dollars posted:

Other than that for me there's a bunch of null reads. People aren't actually dropping feelings that much. Basically if Chic, PMach, Met, and imgay could drop some stuff it would be great.

Are you calling me a null read?

I don't really have anything to say right now. I didn't like the vote on PMush. I lobbied against it yesterday, and there's not much happening yet today.

I agree, however, that the lurkers need to post more.

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Jan 2, 2005

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*looks at player list*

Allen showed up earlier, I guess, but I hope he stays active.

I'd like to see narc talk about something or somebody other than imgay. Not that I agree with him that she has tunnelvision, but that would be nice.

I'd like to hear more from Chic, Daisy, and garth.

Is exakt...exakting, here? His posting is ridiculous but it seems like a meta.

I'd like to hear more from Met.

I think that about does it. Half of the player list is very null for me right now. Makes me nervous.

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Jan 2, 2005

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Tremendous Taste posted:

If like 80% of the active playerbase thought something was bad it was probably bad

But that's the point; that's not what happened. You thought it was bad, and then a bunch of lurkers hopped on the bandwagon.

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Jan 2, 2005

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4 of the 9 votes hopped on at the last minute because they felt like they kind of had to. And then who else was it? You and PMom I understand. Allen's been brought up. And then Met, right? And eight dollar?

Yeah, that's not 80% of the active playerbase believing in the cause.

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Jan 2, 2005

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EXAKT Science posted:

I AM POSTING LIKE THIS BECAUSE MY FLAVOR IS HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN, BROTHER. I REPLACED IN DAY 1 AND THIS SEEMED LIKE A FUN WAY TO PASS THE TIME.

I AM REALLY CURIOUS WHERE ALL OF THIS SERIAL KILLER HUNTING IS COMING FROM. I HAD TO GUESS I'D SAY IT'S ONE OF THOSE JABRONY SCUMBOS. LET'S TAKE A LOOK, BROTHER!

ahhhhhm the creeeam of the CROP

yeahhhhhhhhhh

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Jan 2, 2005

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imgay posted:

So your saying my not voting on the bad lynch makes me scummy because I could have possibly asked other people to pmush? Thats ridiculous reasoning and marginalizes any possible reads from interactions if you vote like you currently are.

It's not ridiculous. You made an impotent omgus vote, and it's gotten you out of the line of fire.

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Jan 2, 2005

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Come on, imgay, do it to it.

Who do you think is scum? How are you reading this game so far?

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Jan 2, 2005

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imgay posted:

How was that an impotent omgus vote? I voted based on their post history this game being nothing but tunnel policy. If you don't think thats scum play, you are missing a screw somewhere. Prop, I also think you are scum at this point. One of your posts demonstrating my content as bad was half filled with posts made before the game even started. That means you aren't reading the game and that is one of the scummier things in this game so far. New scum tend to lurk too, so I kind of feel that Garth could very well be in that boat with his lack of posts day 2.

I made a post to demonstrate my distaste of your aggressive shitposting, and gave up on quoting you about a third of the way through because it was getting tedious and annoying. It was an argument that your bad posting was worse than PMush's bad posting. I stand by it. However, D1 is over, and I'm not currently voting for you but you're still being obnoxious with poor reasoning and it's doing you no favors.

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Jan 2, 2005

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