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L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
An entire field of Formula E cars? That'll be a must for goon racing.

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L_Harrison
May 22, 2007

quote:

1988 Lamborghini Jalpa

You know, this is actually not the first console game that the Jalpa has been included in. It was also in Driver: San Francisco. (Come on, where's the next entry in the Driver series at?)

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007

posted:

1988 Chevrolet Monte Carlo Super Sport

:eyepop:

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
Goddamnit, I know they probably won't do it, but it'd be so perfect if we got the Robby Gordon Stadium Truck from Horizon 2 and they added a Long Beach with the ramps and such from the real race there. It shouldn't even be that hard to do.

(And then we get 20 goons to race there in Bugattis :getin:)

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
The clusterfuck at the fountain is pretty much how I expect multiplayer races to go there. You bump your way through and piss people off, or you get rammed from behind. There's no other option.

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
Oh hey, 2015 Indycars in that video. Nice.

So, is that all the tracks? I swore they said the last five to be announced were brand new to the series.

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
Forza 5 did have 3 free DLC tracks added after release, so there's always hope.

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
Well, they share assets, so any cars in Forza Horizon 2 have a high probability of making it into Forza 6 (ie the same people make the cars for both games).

Playground Games makes the open world setting and throws those cars into it.

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
I think we're at the point where detail is about as high as it's going to get for cars, at least the models used in the Forzavista mode. The only areas that could improve are graphical things in the actual game, like anti-aliasing, anisotropic filtering, texture resolution for custom liveries, etc. The car models themselves are pretty much flawless, even up close to where we're looking at tiny screws and rivets.

And yes, since Forza 3/4, they've been using the same models, just upped in detail and increased poly counts, or added visible engine areas for Forzavista (like the Ford RS200 off the top of my head)

L_Harrison fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Aug 7, 2015

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
hmmm, wonder what those 'Mods' are exactly. I guess they're extra challenges that you can 'equip' for races to boost up the difficulty, perhaps for a cash/xp bonus? I guess you can collect them too, sort of like Burn Cards from Titanfall.

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
It was B class in Horizon 2, comparable to Mitsubishi Lancers and Subaru Imprezas.

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
Getting the Ultimate here too (thanks to that $100 Xbox credit for $85 deal, so technically spending $5 more over the Deluxe to get everything else was a no-brainer).

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
Since it's in Forza 5, I'd be shocked if it wasn't in Forza 6.

Along with everyone's favorite Bugatti Circuit :unsmigghh:

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
Six tracks with night and seven with rain. Kinda reminds me of GT6 actually.

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
I'm sure it takes time to develop the rain and night versions of the tracks separately, so that might've been all they were able to get around to (focusing on the priority tracks). Having just one rain track will be worth it so I can go into a 24 player hopper lobby and watch 23 clueless competitors go sliding off into the wall in turn 1.

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
Mods sound fun. People just hate fun I guess. Besides, it's only for single-player, and you don't have to use them.

Though, hopefully T10 realizes that some of those Mods could provide an unfair advantage for leaderboard times, too, and never lets you have a clean lap if one is engaged.

Edit: Oops, just needed to read farther down. "Career lap times that feature Mods will be classified as “dirty” when appearing on that event’s Rivals leaderboard." Well that's good.

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
It still boggles me how Forza 5 changed random stuff for no reason over Forza 4. Everything is sorted by manufacturer and decreasing model year by default, and you can't permanently change that. (Want the traditional style of increasing PI? lol not possible. Only decreasing PI from left to right, and you have to select that every time you enter a car selection menu).

And use the trigger to 'skip' five manufacturers, or something. Going one by one is just a pain.

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
The season pass will definitely be available separately, probably around launch time. Expect it to be $40 I imagine, just like the one for FM5. (Though it's ~$20 if you buy the Ultimate Edition)

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
24 cars in multiplayer hoppers is going to be nothing short of catastrophic, and it'll be hilarious to watch.

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
Oh hey, the next batch of cars is already out.

"Forza" posted:

2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX MR
1997 Maserati Ghibli Cup
2011 HSV GTS
1981 Ford #55 Liqui Moly equipe Capri Turbo
1973 Ford XB Falcon GT
2017 Ford F-150 Raptor
2001 Acura Integra Type-R
1971 Lotus Elan Sprint
1992 Lancia Delta HF Integrale EVO
2015 Honda #28 Andretti Autosport IndyCar
2015 Honda #27 Andretti Autosport IndyCar
2015 Chevrolet #1 Team Penske IndyCar
2015 Honda #25 Andretti Autosport IndyCar
1980 Abarth Fiat 131
1993 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec
1982 Lancia 037 Stradale
1986 Lancia Delta S4
2013 Abarth Punto Supersport
2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Quadrifoglio Verde
1997 Mitsubishi GTO
1994 Nissan Fairlady Z Version S Twin Turbo
2009 Vauxhall Corsa VXR
2011 Lotus Evora S
2010 Renault Clio RS
2003 Renault Sport Clio V6
1989 Toyota MR2 SC
1986 Alfa Romeo GTV-6
2014 Lexus IS 350 F Sport
1980 Subaru BRAT GL
2015 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat Battletoads Edition

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
One thing I'm hopeful for is that the DLC car packs include more new additions to the Forza series instead of updated X360 era cars like F5 and FH2 did. It seems they've exhausted much of their catalog from the previous games already to make up the roster for F6, so ... one could hope.

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
Additionally, a handful of other cars got announced.

Forza posted:

2015 Mercedes-Benz AMG GT S
1979 BMW #6 BMW Motorsport M1 Procar
2015 Volvo S60 Polestar
2014 Audi #45 Flying Lizard Motorsports R8 LMS ultra
2014 BMW #5 Ebay Motors 125i M Sport
2014 Chevrolet #3 Corvette Racing Corvette C7.R
2015 Jaguar XKR-S GT
1976 Lotus #5 Team Lotus 77
1969 Lola #10 Simoniz Special T163
2014 Ferrari California T

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
It might come out at 00 UTC Tuesday, which would be like 8pm est for the east coast (worst coast). I'm not sure when Xbox puts their demos up.

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007

MattD1zzl3 posted:

I hope it has multiplayer. I've had no job for the last week so a demo could have come earlier MIKKKRO$OFT!!!

It won't. The servers required for it would be outrageous, since it's a free demo of a fairly popular franchise. Microsoft/T10 ain't got time for that.

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
They definitely could, but I just don't see it happening. I'm going off the previous Forza demos, none of which had actual multiplayer as far as I know. Only leaderboards. There will probably be around 5 cars and a couple tracks with the different weather/night conditions, and maybe a few mods thrown in I anticipate.

Anyway, we'll find out soon enough.

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
They need to add some new rims, Jesus Christ. Especially ones with center-lug so my inner racing autist can be pacified. (I think there's only one of those in Forza 5).

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
What about the Indycar/Lotus E21? Forcing you to use the clutch for shifting is really silly, but I never tried it with Manual only (not Manual w/clutch).

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
Everything in the Ultimate Edition is cheaper than buying all the content separately. But, like every other game, you can wait and get it cheaper.

The real question is, how badly do you want to race with 23 other goons on Nurburgring at night in cars that have no headlights? (Lotus E23 deathbowl commence. Last survivor wins)

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
Demo's been up for a few hours (12 GB). Downloading it now, annndddd it's chugging along slow.

F&F Pack posted:

1970 Dodge Charger R/T Fast & Furious Edition
1968 Dodge Charger Fast & Furious Edition
1969 Dodge Charger Fast & Furious Edition
1970 Ford Escort RS1600 Fast & Furious Edition
2014 Terradyne Gurkha LAPV F5 Fast & Furious Edition
1963 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport Fast & Furious Edition
1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS Fast & Furious Edition
1995 Toyota Supra RZ Fast & Furious Edition
1999 Nissan Skyline GT-R Fast & Furious Edition
2002 Nissan Fairlady Z Fast & Furious Edition
2001 Honda S2000 Fast & Furious Edition

Haven't seen any screens yet, but hopefully they're all movie cars (with the right decals and everything). And gently caress yeah the Terradyne Gurkha.

Edit whatever: http://www.jeuxvideo.com/preview/441013/forza-motorsport-6-un-retour-tonitruant.htm video on this page shows some of the car list in game. F&F cars are movie cars. Also, E class is back, yay.

Edit again: Spotted First Day DLC cars in the list too, including 458 Speciale, 2016 Mustang GT350R nevermind, VIP cars

L_Harrison fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Sep 1, 2015

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
^ Yes (Forza 6 pre-loading is available now)

First Impressions here:

The driving feels great. Compared to previous Forza titles, the tires have more give to them, so you suddenly don't find yourself sliding sideways without grip with no warning. You can push the car and flirt with the edge of control, while not losing a significant amount of time speed wise. In previous games, it always felt like you were trying not to go over the edge. Now, you can pass the edge and bring it back under control without too much penalty. From what I drove, curbs also handle more realistically. You can somewhat attack them and not prepare for the car to become instantly unbalanced. Again, it seems like all the cars have a bit more flex to them. They don't handle like rigid shoeboxes without tuning.

Loading times seem quicker than Forza 5, and the pre-race interface is mostly unchanged. You get more bonus for not using the assists, which is nice. (73% for me, compared to the typical 50% in Forza 5). The female announcer from Forza 5 is back, so if you didn't like her in that, well ...

Visually, it's not all that different from Forza 5. The cockpit view has been pushed back by default a bit, and the near chase camera is now more like the traditional far chase cam. So, what about the original far chase cam? It's even further back. Tire smoke has improved. Still plenty of aliasing, like in Forza 5, especially at nighttime when the lights are illuminating all the crevices and contours of the cars. But in some cases, the graphics look worse, like at Indianapolis when looking down the long straights. Also, despite the changes to the infield course of that track, the oval is still awful and mostly unchanged from Forza 4/5. In other words, it's that same bumpy, mountainous, too-wide mess that's completely inaccurate.

Oh, and the indycars smoke the tires during a lap there. Because Forza reasons. It just looks silly.

Rain is pretty fun, and visually looks great. (The rolling fog near the surface is loving incredible.) Driving-wise, it has more grip than I thought it would, but the puddles are just loving stupid. Especially at a flat track like Sebring. They're just placed in random rear end locations to annoy the poo poo out of you more than anything else. And of course they never change since nothing is dynamic. So basically you have to memorize the track and learn where they are, because some areas the clean line is reduced to one lane. In other areas, they cover the complete track. There's a fast corner as Sebring that has it all the way across, and it's just really silly. In other words, they'll be hilarious in multiplayer.

Oh, and the post-race nonsense is skip-able!

TL;DR Lime Rock is great. Indy oval is still a pile of poo poo. Slight graphical hit. Rain and night are mostly fun. Better physics. Drivatars still drive drunk. Rio and Lime Rock will have huge rear end wrecks in multiplayer for sure.

I might also be #2 in the world on the Lime Rock Rivals event.

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007

BCRock posted:

Game looks awesome. Can't wait until the 10th.

For anyone else who's done the rivals, does it seem like it's adding almost a full second to your lap time once you cross the line?

Yeah, the time you set is the total time from the get-go, not the lap time. So, it's your lap + that little bit before you actually cross the line the first time to start the lap.

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
I went to that link and got really confused because it was telling me I was FluffyColt16204. Turns out my gamertag got reported and changed.

Xbox, the anti-fun console.

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
Yeah you can go straight to Rivals after completing the demo career, though you still have to adjust the assists and everything else each time you load it up. Also, it's a pain restarting each Rival event just to only get a chance at one lap. But the real game is only a week away so whatever.

And Turn 10 has come out and said that there will be no microtransactions in Forza 6 at launch. Zip. Nada. That could change (like around Christmas when those rich 10-year-old brats get Forza from their parents and want all the loving Mods available), but for now no.

Edit: Also, the Rio course reminds me of the Macau street course in some areas and I expect 24-player online races to go exactly like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzU3M-run0o

Edit 2: And, someone discovered a photomode inside the demo:

Dewstain on Forza forums posted:

So I found a hidden way to snag pics from the demo.

When you get to rivals, you can go to the leaderboard and load someone's ghost replay. When in there, you can open Photomode.

You can take your pic, save it, etc, but you can't share it. It refuses to populate the "keywords" that allow it to upload to the server.

But, you can use the left small button on your controller (formerly the back button) to "Hide UI." This allows you to snag the pic you have lined up with a good old fashion "Xbox take a Screenshot".

L_Harrison fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Sep 2, 2015

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007

BMB5150 posted:

Do any rewards from the demo carry over?

No. You only get the Ford GT in the full game added to your garage for playing the demo, but not any of the prize spins or such.

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
And a dynamic wet track has shifting lines. Forza 6 just has the same grip everywhere on the racing surface (minus the puddles), just a little less grip than the dry track. So, you brake a little earlier, get on the throttle a little less aggressively, and that's it. You run the exact same line and swerve to avoid the strategically placed puddles to annoy you.

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
I don't know if adding movable tires was a good idea either, because you can crash into them and get them out of the way (like in the chicane section of Rio). Then, you have a straighter line through to turn a faster lap without getting it dirtied. It's like they didn't think this through very well.

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWLbbeTcuh4

Here's all the cars, upgrades, design options in the game etc.

Um, all the SS cars in Chevy have no SS emblems? Time for a shitstorm

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
If you have a Forza Hub account, that's chump change anyway.

L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
I think 12:01 am refers to the non-Ultimate edition next tuesday.

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L_Harrison
May 22, 2007
Hold on to yer butts.

I saw a picture on another forum that showed we get to pick our driver's gender. My drivatar is going to be the unbeatable Maria Rossi.

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