Forza Motorsport 6

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drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

Only just found this thread (I tend not to come to Games very often), but the week before E3 I went to visit Turn 10 for an exclusive first look at the game: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/06/forza-motorsport-6-getting-dark-and-wet-in-a-world-first-hands-on/

In case you were wondering how they actually model everything.

# ¿ Jul 30, 2015 19:48

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# ¿ Apr 23, 2024 04:12

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

MattD1zzl3 posted:

IGN noticed a few things about career mode i'm not thrilled with, but not totally surprised either. Apparently you cant choose your championship in career mode, it is chosen for you. So no more "oh, i just bought a zonda, lets open the V12 races". Really suprised to hear that

Uh, that's not quite true. You get a choice of six different championships at each stage, but each one is part of one of five different stories of motorsport.

# ¿ Sep 8, 2015 16:50

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

Leather Bear posted:

Can you post on how car class works? Did T10 implement a more granular system so we can race solely F1 or GT3-class cars, for example?

There's no change. In multiplayer you can specify which class and the drive type iirc. Tried checking just now but it keeps failing to let me set up a private lobby at the moment.

# ¿ Sep 8, 2015 18:42

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

ethanol posted:

You're confusing hoppers lobby restrictions with private lobby ones, in whivh you can specify car type or laps.. damage..etc. turn10 has always really flubbed up public lobbies

No, I'm really not. I know exactly how to create a private lobby, where you can set your own restrictions, and I am positive you can only tell it to set a specific car class (A, B, C, etc) and fwd/awd/rwd. However, as I said, the server kept failing when I tried to create a new one just now to double check.

# ¿ Sep 8, 2015 20:05

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

GutBomb posted:

To Clarify, you mean in FM6 you can only set up a private lobby with Letter class and drive type? Or all Forzas? Because I do it in FM5 every week with all of the extra stuff like the ability to choose which assists are allowed for people connecting, which car type, make, model, etc... It's in the advanced tab all the way over to the right in race setup. If they removed that in 6 there's going to be a revolt.

edit - OK I just checked and there's an entire page of car restrictions you can create for multiplayer races so fear not.

# ¿ Sep 8, 2015 21:56

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

After spending 5 hours troubleshooting, I finally got the Fanatec Clubsport to work. Can't say I enjoyed the experience, but holy fuckballs what a great way to play once it's working.

Gamer tag is drgitlin, but I won't be around much for the next week and a half (get to drive a real Huracan for a few days and then down to COTA for the new TT launch so feel free to hate me).

# ¿ Sep 11, 2015 01:57

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

ethanol posted:

I don't think any 360 wheels work with the bone

Nope, they don't (but you can reuse the pedals with the new one). On the off chance anyone is looking for info about wheels, I have reviewed the G920 and Fanatec Clubsport: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/09/getting-to-grips-with-the-latest-xbox-one-steering-wheels

# ¿ Sep 13, 2015 04:48

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

GutBomb posted:

Designed by the same guy. Yas Marina too.

Actually this isn't true. Herman Tilke's company did the buildings and facilities, but the track layout was Tavo Hellmund and Kevin Schwantz.

# ¿ Sep 14, 2015 01:11

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

Ether Frenzy posted:

I swear I'm not working for Fanatec but I'd say that the CSW v2 with universal Xbone Hub is a large margin better than the Thrustmaster TX although that is a perfectly fine wheel too.

The novelty sized pretend rim was my biggest letdown with the Thrustmaster, but now that I've had some time with it, the CSW v2 is also a lot smoother action in general and feels more like a real car. It's also considerably more expensive.

Everything belt driven is a step up from G25/G27's. It also has the side benefit of, y'know, working on the Xbone.

I actually think the force feedback on the TX is stronger than the Fanatec (with both set to 100%). But the rim on the TX is too narrow. However, with the auto clutch, and Fanatec pedals (courtesy of the basherboards CPX) it's a pretty great combo. And much less frustrating than troubleshooting the Fanatec CSW. But if you have the cash for the whole Fanatec set up, it is totes amaze, as the kids say.

# ¿ Sep 15, 2015 03:40

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

Norns posted:

Just pulled the trigger on the TX Wheel, and a Playseat Challenge so I have something to actually use it with in the living room.

I should probably get the T3PA pedals...

Rather get Fanatec Clubsport pedals and a basherboards CPX adapter than the T3PA pedals.

# ¿ Sep 15, 2015 03:42

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

GramCracker posted:

I'm sure this has been discussed - why did Turn10 not decide to actually make the AI less lovely? They have zero situational awareness (this is my biggest issue with them) and every single one drives the exact same drat line and rarely deviates from it.

I talked to Dan and the team about it earlier this year: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/06/forza-motorsport-6-getting-dark-and-wet-in-a-world-first-hands-on/

# ¿ Sep 18, 2015 04:33

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

SLICK GOKU BABY posted:

Oh you want to listen to music through the Xbox One while playing games. Sorry we are gonna need 25% of your screen space.

That is my biggest annoyance with the One. Why the gently caress can't I just stream music from my laptop? It evidently worked perfectly well with the 360.

# ¿ Oct 2, 2015 15:36

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

SmokeyXIII posted:

Are we getting Porsche? Was that just for FH2?

Porsche pack is coming Spring 2016

# ¿ Oct 6, 2015 00:26

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

Ether Frenzy posted:

I can't recall if the Thrustmaster has an "auto" setting for rotation, but if you set the Fanatec that way, the game tells the wheel what it's meant to be, and yes - you did read that Turn 10 said 540 is what they built the 'auto' setting to detect at.

I use 540/sim steering for everything because I'm too old to be turning a video game wheel 6 complete rotations to make a u-turn.

Also, make sure to have the wheel on and connected physically before you power on the Xbone. I feel like if you have the Xbone on, and then connect/turn on your wheel, there can be inconsistencies with steering rotation once you get into the game. This could just be bias because that definitely DID happen on the 360 with the Fanatecs but it seems to work so I've just stuck with it on Xbone. I always shut down completely and reboot when I'm switching to using the wheel, and once you're in-game using the wheel as primary, you can power on a controller as a second input device to paint/take pics/maneuver in menus, etc.

If you do it the other way around, (at least for me) you end up with wheel buttons (paddles) not necessarily being mapped correctly, which is fixed by going into the Forza controller settings screen and then backing out using the buttons on the wheel.

Fanatec is becoming more and more user-u friendly as the days go by. Five hours of troubleshooting to set up the CSW, and even now I can guarantee the first time I try using it the accelerator will only give me 30% activation and will have to be power cycled before I can actually use it. Oh, and they used non-metric hex screws on the pedals and didn't mention it so now I've stripped a screw on the brake pedal.

# ¿ Oct 11, 2015 23:08

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

Ether Frenzy posted:

If we're doing "Guess a random car that has nothing to do with the clue",

clearly all of them are Porsches.

Porsche is coming next Spring.

# ¿ Oct 31, 2015 22:46

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

I wouldn't get your hopes up about Maple Valley.

# ¿ Nov 3, 2015 03:57

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

Cubey posted:

It's going to actually be Twin Ring "worse than the Bugatti circuit' mother loving Motegi, isn't it

I can't say for sure (and wouldn't be allowed to if I could) but I am 98% sure it's not a track.

# ¿ Nov 3, 2015 04:19

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

holocaust bloopers posted:

So the surprise was a livery and a fictional car only accessible by buying another game. That's a let down.

I told you fuckers not to get your hopes up.

# ¿ Nov 4, 2015 22:10

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

robotsinmyhead posted:

Hermann Tilke, designer of Sochi, Yas Marina, CotA, Bahrain, and a lot of others.

He gets a lot of poo poo for a a copy/paste aesthetic to his tracks, in that many of them look really similar.

His newer tracks are also simultaneously praised for being safer due to large run-off areas, but lacking any real "penalty" for going off track (FIA rules have remedied this a bit, but it's way more arbitrary)

I personally find his tracks to be difficult for the wrong reasons - mostly just straights with varying degree turns followed by another straight, maybe a constant radius turn here or there. I'm sure that sounds reductive because that's how "all tracks" are in a really general way, but in my opinion, good tracks should "flow" with the terrain and be exciting. Technical parts should be a result of track planning and natural features rather than imposed by the designer.

They're not all bad. Turkey Istanbul Park was a pretty cool track, but for the most part, his tracks are going more and more the way of all looking like Yas Marina.

A: Tilke did not design COTA's layout, that was Tavo Hellmund and Kevin Schwantz. Tilke GmbH did the buildings and infrastructure.

B: Turkey was a great track, because the site had a lot of elevation. Every other recent f1 track that Tilke has done has been a flat stretch of wasteland (or swamp in the case of Shanghai) which is why they're so boring. There is no terrain with which to flow.

# ¿ Jan 20, 2016 12:40

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

...

I think some of you will be pleasantly surprised.

# ¿ Mar 1, 2016 02:17

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

Here you go, 4k PC version of Forza: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/03/4k-free-to-play-forza-6-apex-leads-microsofts-latest-xbox-on-pc-push/

# ¿ Mar 1, 2016 15:03

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

I'm expecting it to show up at 1pm ET/10am PT.

# ¿ Mar 1, 2016 18:37

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

Although I am sure I had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with it, I am quite pleased that the two tracks I suggested Dan and Turn 10 add to the game (Spa and then VIR) were two tracks that Turn 10 added (I told them they should add VIR when I was there last year).

The Porsche pack is pretty great - you can still make a 930 look like a 964 with the bodywork mods, although the lack of a 993 GT2 makes me a bit sad. The 718 is a great little car.

# ¿ Mar 2, 2016 03:48

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

Bad news. Turn 10 told me we almost certainly won't get any more Porsches as future DLC.

# ¿ Mar 2, 2016 18:44

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

GentlemanofLeisure posted:

In FM6, or for the rest of their games going forward? If it's the latter, is it because the sales numbers on the DLC are too poor to support the licensing fee?

FM6. I am pretty sure when I was at Turn 10 last year they said the EA license expires this year or next.

Edit - checked my piece from last year and it says 2016, so we'll see what happens. I might ask Porsche if they can find the answer for me.

drgitlin fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Mar 2, 2016

# ¿ Mar 2, 2016 21:40

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

IDK if you're joking or not but I don't believe Dan Greenawalt is going anywhere.

# ¿ Mar 4, 2016 00:53

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

BCRock posted:

It's already been pointed out that they aren't all cars from 4. How exactly do they make the Porsche pack races "different" from the campaign when the entire game is just cars racing on tracks without doing dumb poo poo like the aforementioned moon racing?

Would you have been happier if they didn't add any of the commentary? It's some neat history for people who care about it and if you don't you can just ignore or skip it.

It's a bunch of great cars and an awesome track, plus a whole set of single player races and a league. I'm not sure what else you expect for $20.

I happily spent $20 of my own money just so I can race those cars and VIR, and gave away the review code on Twitter. The 718 RS 60 is almost worth it alone.

# ¿ Mar 11, 2016 05:18

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

PhancyPants posted:

Well, they're Porsches so Turn 10 just had to model 1 car and 12 spoilers

I do like the way you can turn a 930 into a 964...

# ¿ Mar 11, 2016 15:05

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

track day bro! posted:

But I thought the horizon games were made by playground games with not much of T10 involvement apart from assets and the engine?

I believe that it's Turn 10 that does all the car models, and that's three months per car.

# ¿ Mar 16, 2016 21:40

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

GentlemanofLeisure posted:

What I was referencing, and i think track day bro! was questioning, is that the people who ran the community bounties, monthly rivals, hopper rotation, etc... were the same people that ended up doing the same thing in Horizon as had been doing it in FM4.

They had promised to keep up the support in FM4, but that didn't end up happening. Same thing with FM5 and FH2, but not really as noticeable since both of those games had much smaller user bases.

So yeah, I'm predicting the same thing happening to FM6 after the last DLC pack.

Oh. Yes I think they just have the one community engagement team (or whatever it's called).

# ¿ Mar 16, 2016 23:57

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

MattD1zzl3 posted:

Since forza 2 i've wanted a "Defer to in-car aids" option, so a Buick Grand national would be automatic, a Nissan Skyline would have fancy traction control, a Ferrari would be paddle shift and a Miata would be manual with clutch, any of which you could disable in favor of aids.

I've brought that very point up with San Greenawalt both times I've visited Turn 10 now. Not sure I've ever received a satisfying answer, fwiw.

I really like the way DiRT Rally handles wheels in that regard. You turn on "soft lock" and it defaults your wheel to whatever lock the actual car has. Btw you should all try that game, it is really really excellent: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/03/dirt-rally-review-one-of-the-best-driving-games-weve-ever-played/

# ¿ Mar 30, 2016 14:03

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

holocaust bloopers posted:

Forza also doesn't do a terrific job of modeling high-end cars' electronic genies like the GT-R and Ferraris.

The generic tcs and stability systems don't come close to what those cars really do.

I imagine all of that stuff is proprietary and therefore very secretive.

So I've asked about that too, and the answer was always along the lines of "no, our system is is fine". I think that they could at least do what GT does and let you alter the amount of intervention (which after all is what the various OEM ones do).

# ¿ Mar 30, 2016 15:00

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

No reason not to expect more DLC; Forza 5 kept pumping it out until Horizon 2 was nearly out. It's just that you only get the first six included in the Car Pass.

FM 5 got eight full car packs and a few booster packs: http://forzamotorsport.wikia.com/wiki/Forza_Motorsport_5/Downloadable_Content

# ¿ Apr 2, 2016 20:58

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

MattD1zzl3 posted:

If only there was a slow formula car that had an exciting engine note and less downforce.

BAC Mono.

# ¿ May 29, 2016 01:17

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

I actually had to fire up 6 after first playing FH3 because the handling felt so off I thought my wheel might be acting up. Nope, it really does feel that disconnected and floaty.

# ¿ Sep 13, 2016 03:50

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

The FFB in the Xbox version is horribly weak so it might be the same in the PC one.

# ¿ Sep 27, 2016 19:41

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

geeves posted:

Default is 50%. Did you up it to say 75-80%?

No, 100, and it's still much weaker than FH2 or FM6.

# ¿ Sep 27, 2016 20:59

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# ¿ Apr 23, 2024 04:12

drgitlin: Jul 25, 2003; luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

Cojawfee posted:

I notice they specifically mention Fanatec CSW v2 with Xbone hub. I hope that's just for Xbone and the base works on windows with whatever wheel.

The Xbox One has always worked with the CSW and Xbox One hub.

# ¿ Oct 1, 2016 22:36

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