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muscles like this! posted:A funny novelisation thing is how Max Alan Collins wrote the comic book Road to Perdition, which turned into a movie. Collins then wrote the novelisation of the movie. So he did an adaptation of an adaptation of his own work. Tony Wilson wrote the novelization of Twenty Four Hour Party People. An embellished comedy movie he didn't write retelling part of his own life with him as the main character (A movie he disliked). So he essentially wrote a biography of himself that probably can't be considered an autobiography
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HopperUK posted:I paid actual money for the novelisation of Re-Animator and it's actually very good? I mean, for a novelisation. I can't tell if this is a joke or not.
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Apr 5, 2021 01:53
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packetmantis posted:I can't tell if this is a joke or not. Nah, there is a novelisation of the movie that was an adaptation of some short stories. It adds some character background and a few events that aren't in the movie and generally rounds things out and it is not written horribly. I would not advise anyone else pay money for it but it's honestly not bad.
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Apr 5, 2021 03:26
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I have a copy of the Independence Day: Resurgence novelisation on a shelf somewhere. I don't intend to read it, but it was super-discounted when I was ordering something else and I couldn't resist. Also a small stack of ~70s Doctor Who novelisations, but those are great, probably.
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Apr 5, 2021 04:29
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Sometimes the novels are written off a script that hasn't been finished or is still shooting, so sometimes the novels have way different poo poo than the movie ends up having. That's always neat.
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Apr 5, 2021 04:52
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Sometimes the novels are written off a script that hasn't been finished or is still shooting, so sometimes the novels have way different poo poo than the movie ends up having. That's always neat. Yeah, I remember the Independence Day one had the version where Randy Quaid straps a missile to a biplane instead of flying an F/A-18 into the ship.
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Apr 5, 2021 04:55
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The novelization of Fritz Lang's Metropolis was apparently useful to the people trying to restore the film decades after much of it was lost. (And the novelization of King Kong is public domain, which means the story of King Kong is public domain, but you have to be careful because a few things are different in the movie and that's still under copyright.)
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Apr 5, 2021 05:56
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The 89 batman film novel is pretty different, but iirc the ending is basically the same. They just cut a bunch of admittedly would have been cool scenes. I didn't know they could vary, so when I read the book and then saw the movie I was kinda both floored and pissed.
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Apr 5, 2021 06:26
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The original script treatments for what ended up being 89 Batman are apparently wild as gently caress, somehow being like the 66 series and Frank Miller all at the same time.
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Apr 5, 2021 07:25
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Alan Dean Foster is the king of SF movie novelizations from the 70s up until very recently - some under his own name, others ghostwritten (like the original Star Wars novel!). I have a soft spot for some of them, like his take on The Last Starfighter. But to swing back closer to the thread topic: if you want terrible, go look at Foster's unsolicited treatment for Star Wars Episode 9 (search for "May 1 2018" at his blog) because holy god drat is it awful.
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Alan Dean Foster is the king of SF movie novelizations from the 70s up until very recently - some under his own name, others ghostwritten (like the original Star Wars novel!). I have a soft spot for some of them, like his take on The Last Starfighter. Is that the one Jenny Nicholson did an episode on? Because, if so, it's awful. Given the mess that episode 9 turned into, it's starting that even an independent observer with no restrictions couldn't make anything of it.
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Lemniscate Blue posted:But to swing back closer to the thread topic: if you want terrible, go look at Foster's unsolicited treatment for Star Wars Episode 9 (search for "May 1 2018" at his blog) because holy god drat is it awful. God drat that's some impressively terrible blog design too.
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Apr 5, 2021 10:32
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There's a YouTube channel that goes over the differences between novels and their film adaptations and I always thought it'd be neat to do the same thing for films and their novelizations.
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https://twitter.com/readbytiffany/status/1378411866095935489?s=19 This sure sounds like a well-researched book set in feudal Japan.
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Groovelord Neato posted:There's a YouTube channel that goes over the differences between novels and their film adaptations and I always thought it'd be neat to do the same thing for films and their novelizations. Lost in Adaptation! I like that channel. It's fun times. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPtiXdv7RoU8IkrJeNY73qw
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Sisal Two-Step posted:I'd like to know more about the elf-lord. I'm sorry I don't have more information yet! It turned out that I reached out to her during a time of need, so it didn't really come up. That being said, I'm kind of grateful that reading this thread and remembering something dumb has helped me reach out to her. You never know until you act!
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I am reminded of how so many Hollywood directors seem fascinated with Japan and yet are so obviously only surface-level familiar to the point where the average weeb probably knows more and can speak more coherently about the actual culture and history of the place.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I am reminded of how so many Hollywood directors seem fascinated with Japan and yet are so obviously only surface-level familiar to the point where the average weeb probably knows more and can speak more coherently about the actual culture and history of the place. See Isle of Dogs. A Wes Anderson movie set in Japan about dogs was something I was very much looking forward to. That movie though... oof Ambitious Spider has a new favorite as of 16:53 on Apr 5, 2021 |
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Ambitious Spider posted:See Isle of Dogs. A Wes Anderson movie set in Japan about dogs was something I was very much looking forward to. That movie though... oof Yeah, I was really excited to watch this a couple months ago and I was just.. yeah. Oof.
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Apr 5, 2021 17:11
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I enjoyed the movie. What was wrong with it?
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Ambitious Spider posted:See Isle of Dogs. A Wes Anderson movie set in Japan about dogs was something I was very much looking forward to. That movie though... oof Don't you mean "woof?"
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Apr 5, 2021 18:25
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I remember the novelization of "Terminator 2" being surprisingly engaging, and it included the deleted scene with the learning-chip switch, without which the entire third act of the movie makes very little sense.
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Ibblebibble posted:https://twitter.com/readbytiffany/status/1378411866095935489?s=19 I've read it; It's set in feudal japan in the same way that game of thrones is set in 15th century england tbh. It uses some of the words (Shogun, Shogunate, the character names.... Uh... Thats about it I think?) and frankly if you crossed them out and replaced them with their western equivalents it would make zero difference to the story, its mainly a steampunk fantasy thing. the asian aspects are, as that tweet intimates, mainly just aesthetics.
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Mycroft Holmes posted:I enjoyed the movie. What was wrong with it? It’s very othering and has a white savior storyline. Very late 80s Japanese economic menace vibes.
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Apr 5, 2021 19:09
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spite house posted:I remember the novelization of "Terminator 2" being surprisingly engaging, and it included the deleted scene with the learning-chip switch, without which the entire third act of the movie makes very little sense. The best thing about the Re-Animator novelisation is that it reveals that West is actually *Canadian*. No wonder he's so invested in reviving the dead, they're all necromancers up there.
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Apr 5, 2021 19:35
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HopperUK posted:Lost in Adaptation! I just remembered there was another channel that also does it with more produced videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va8cCNCR8XY I guess they got bought by IGN because I don't remember that branding when I watched a couple of these years back.
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Apr 5, 2021 19:53
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HopperUK posted:The best thing about the Re-Animator novelisation is that it reveals that West is actually *Canadian*. No wonder he's so invested in reviving the dead, they're all necromancers up there. This is a call-out to the original story. West isn't Canadian in 'Herbert West -- Reanimator', but in 1915 he volunteers as a doctor for a Canadian regiment in Flanders, taking the narrator along with him, in search of a plentiful source of fresh corpses (the US would not join WW1 until 1917, and West clearly didn't want to miss out on valuable research time).
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Apr 5, 2021 23:15
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Carnival of Shrews posted:This is a call-out to the original story. Oh that's right, I forgot about that little snippet. I remembered the wartime bit but forgot the Canada connection.
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Apr 5, 2021 23:22
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The novelization of The Rocketeer goes into the gangster's backstory in detail so when the time comes, you understand exactly why he turns on Timothy Dalton when he finds out he's a Nazi.
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My novelization story is "I Still Know What You Did Last Summer". In that there wasn't one. The 'novelization' is just the film script, or one of the final versions anyway, reprinted inside. There's not bringing your A game, and then there's THAT.
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Senior Woodchuck posted:finds out he's a Nazi. You don't need any more reason than that.
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Mamkute posted:You don't need any more reason than that. Really one of my favorite little bits of the movie, when the mobster and the G-man find themselves both shooting at the same Nazis, and the mobster just grins at him.
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Ibblebibble posted:https://twitter.com/readbytiffany/status/1378411866095935489?s=19 Tweet's gone private, sounds like YA twitter strikes again.
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How do people still not realize how twitter works The whole point of the game is to never become Twitter's protagonist and the best way to do that is to never post on it in the first place
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I'm not sure this is entirely the right thread but I recently came across this: https://tidbits.com/2014/05/02/funbits-bears-in-boats-fighting-crime/ Review of a self published book about teddy bears that investigate a crime in Paris. The review also talks a good deal about the features of whatever writing program the guy used to write said book. The gold however comes after that where he rants in the comments over every criticism in the review quoting entire sections of his book saying how brilliant each of those passages are. He compares himself to Fitzgerald and Keats and at one point replies to his own replies so much the comments go to one letter per line.
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I heard the F+ episode that covered this guy, but they didn't read the excerpt occasioning those comparisons (yes, both of them) (or maybe they did, but I don't remember, and I can't check at work):quote:However, what struck me immediately upon entering was perfume. It wasn't Cordelia—rather roses. The scent was unmistakable. There were dozens and dozens of flowers in vases of all descriptions filling the living room. Roses grew from metal floor stands and stood in cut-crystal on side-tables and window-ledges and overflowed into the dining room, stopping only when the bouquets had covered her kitchen counters, scenting the air throughout like crazy. Some bear had sent her bright yellow and orange dozens, poised next to red, white and pink dozens. In the center of the living room, two dozen anxious roses blushed lavender by the vacant love-seat. quote:But here’s the other frightening thing: there are bears out there who willingly do harm to others. They knew it and didn’t care. These were hard, reckless bears who took without conscience or remorse. And worse, they stole away our faith in each other; and they didn’t care about that either. There were bad consequences and all would pay. To many, Glass had been a benevolent angel spreading his largesse over the City. He offered money, security and protection. All that was now yanked away. Those in Venice who had benefited from his vast generosity—and there were many—would have to return to the world of unmet longings, a much barer reality. Great wealth affords certain comfort. I guess that’s the appeal, ultimately—the feeling that we’re being cared for and looked after; that we are safe with basic bear needs met. But the cold light of day coming up on this crisp Venetian morning would be a stark reminder that life is uncertain and we can find ourselves adrift on turbulent waters. Sham bam bamina! has a new favorite as of 20:35 on Apr 27, 2021 |
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Darkhold posted:I'm not sure this is entirely the right thread but I recently came across this: Oh my god he keeps responding so much that it's just a line of single letters all in a row by the end. I'm loving dying.
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I wonder if this is actually Spider Robinson in the comments? (Also, a lot of people cheering "Yeah! Stick it to the powerful and mighty reviewers!")
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I'll Be Gone In The Dark by Michelle McNamara. This is a true crime novel about the Golden State Killer. Some of the books flaws are understandable since McNamara died during the writing. The editor explicitly states which chapters are pieced together from her original manuscript. That said, the amount of cop worship on display is really silly considering A) Despite a dozen fawning passages about how smart and perceptive the detectives are, it still took them over 40 years to catch the guy. B) She couldn't have known this then, But the GSK turned out to have been a cop. Probably the most hosed up part is when apropos of nothing she tells a story of a time she almost called the cops on two black teenagers she saw in the neighborhood. She decided against it because she was worried she'd come off as racist. It didn't even have anything to do with the GSK investigation.
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