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QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012


Art is anything made with a creative purpose. I would consider everything from the Last Supper to the Wrapped Reichtag, from Citizen Kane to The Stanley Parable to be art.

Whether something is good art or not is a better question imho.

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derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy

what if its a creative way to make money

Dugong
Mar 18, 2013

I don't know what to do,
I'm going to lose my mind


That's like a lot of paintings though?

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012


uranus posted:

what if its a creative way to make money

then it is a very artful scam

merk
May 20, 2003



Games are fart

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy

is it art if everyone thinks its poo poo?

Ernie.
Aug 31, 2012



Somberbrero posted:

i missed someone other than me talking about netrunner.

you haven't, let's tabletop simulator netrunner soon, it looks okay

Kleedrac posted:

I haven't played Gone Home or Sunless Sea but I will say that Stanley Parable isn't a game, more of an interactive and extremely boring loving movie - I made it about 20 minutes in before blocking the friend who recommended it and cursing the time wasted pirating the piece of poo poo.

lol

i liked the game, and my favorite part were the achievements and museum ending, something about the surreal commentary that taking the game apart and re-arranging it in a new way could be so pointless and yet so effort intensive

QuoProQuid posted:

Art is anything made with a creative purpose. I would consider everything from the Last Supper to the Wrapped Reichtag, from Citizen Kane to The Stanley Parable to be art.

Whether something is good art or not is a better question imho.

i think most people conflate Capital A Art, with the art form it's presented in, especially in classical studies, leading to this series of bad arguments where everyone is all like

"IT'S NOT ART BECAUSE IT DOESN'T DISSEMINATE AN IDEA"
"BUT IT IS BECAUSE IT TOOK EXPERTISE TO PRODUCE" etc.

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy

since when is art about ideas? i havent heard that one. what idea does the mona lisa disseminate

The Carpet Shark
Sep 1, 2014



uranus posted:

since when is art about ideas? i havent heard that one. what idea does the mona lisa disseminate

the idea that a little smile goes a long way

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012


uranus posted:

since when is art about ideas? i havent heard that one. what idea does the mona lisa disseminate

it obviously disseminates the truth of the holy grail, protected by leonardo da vinci and the priory of sion, against the sinister forces of opus dei. if one looks closely, one should be unable to uncover a series of clues that will lead them to the last supper, revealing jesus's secret relationship with mary magdeline, and the children that they bore.

it is all very fascinating.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply



The best art was that guy who could fart on command.

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy

wow i should take a art class i guess.

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009



CCKeane posted:

The best art was that guy who could fart on command.

fart apps are definitely art

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy

i think the real question is what isnt art?

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy

my posting

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012


My favorite painting is Ivan the Terrible and His Son Ivan on November 16, 1581 by Ilya Repin. For me, it is one of the most haunting paintings ever created.



I also like The Merry Family by Jan Steen. I know the message is intended to be negative, but that baby is so happy!

QuoProQuid fucked around with this message at Jul 5, 2015 around 17:10

George Kansas
Sep 1, 2008

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Saying something isn't art is invalid. It's like seeing some totalitarian country's network propaganda and saying it's not television. I mean, it's not network or cable television which is what we colloquially refer to as TV, but it obviously is still television.

hexwren
Feb 27, 2008



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TYpQGt6Dwc

the only true art is prog tunes about paintings

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy

if there arent things that are not art, then 'art' becomes a useless word that describes nothing. like 'stuff' or 'things'

George Kansas
Sep 1, 2008

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uranus posted:

if there arent things that are not art, then 'art' becomes a useless word that describes nothing. like 'stuff' or 'things'

yes

George Kansas
Sep 1, 2008

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As in, art is only useful as a term to refer to things that are fundamentally known as art. It is not helpful to filter down between what is and is not art.

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy

how do you know what is or isnt art without talking about it though

Jonathan Fisk
Sep 6, 2010


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An apple is art


God is master artist

George Kansas
Sep 1, 2008

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Tremendous Taste posted:

An apple is art


God is master artist

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy

what else should i expect from artists, i guess, lol

EccoRaven
Aug 15, 2004

there is only one hell:
the one we live in now




Update I had brunch at the Best Brunch in the City and it was really good. I had smoked salmon eggs benedict and ate both of them. I got to see one of my best friends for the first time in over a year and we were both so happy we hug-jump-laughed. I had three cups of coffee to make up for two hours of sleep and now I am jittery and giddy. I also chatted on the phone with another biffle for an hour and a half, really made my morning. I wish my friends were closer but I love that they're in my life despite distance, and that we all still make time for each other.

Art is anything made with creative purpose, yes. Things become art when the creator is sincerely intending it to be art - this doesn't mean everything is art, but art isn't just paintings. There is good and bad art, though a lot of it is subjective. Stanley Parable is art and it's good art. My mafia games are art and most of them are okay for the medium; some are outstanding, others are forgettable drivel, but so it goes.

God is an artist and the world is Her canvas. To quote one of my favorite books: "[t]his world contains just one masterpiece, and that is itself."

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy

psh, more like god is a fartist and the world is a squeeker

George Kansas
Sep 1, 2008

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I don't believe in God but I definitely prefer God as a woman

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy

god as anything human related is dumb

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy

unless god is some neckbeard looking over the simulation we're living in. that would make sense

EccoRaven
Aug 15, 2004

there is only one hell:
the one we live in now


uranus posted:

unless god is some neckbeard looking over the simulation we're living in. that would make sense

you read too many science fictions!!

Look Under The Rock
Oct 20, 2007

you can't take the sky from me


uranus posted:

is it art if everyone thinks its poo poo?

IS BAD ART ART?

Jonathan Fisk
Sep 6, 2010


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God wouldn't be self loathing enough to subject women to this bullshit

merk
May 20, 2003



The debate of whether something is or is not art is simply answered with a more important question: Who cares?

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy

artists

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merk posted:

The debate of whether something is or is not art is simply answered with a more important question: Who cares?

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy

i had a similar problem in highschool when trying to get my creative writing teacher to explain what 'poetry' was. it seems to me that poetry is more about the positioning of the words than the words themselves. if you ramble on for a paragraph, its not a poem. but if you take that same paragraph and space it out into lines between 1-10 words in length, then its a poem.

maybe art is the same way, except instead of aranging words into lines, you have to put the item in a gallery, or put a frame around it. poof, art

derp
Jan 21, 2010

when i get up all i want to do is go to bed again

Lipstick Apathy

okay im done, bb in 500 posts or so

Jonathan Fisk
Sep 6, 2010


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Definitions of art are personal and universally bullshit

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Epsilon Plus
Dec 30, 2006

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Ernie. posted:

you haven't, let's tabletop simulator netrunner soon, it looks okay

it is excellent and other than some problems managing Archives for the corp Tabletop Simulator is a great way to netrun

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