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Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010



Town victory by default.

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Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

The Pit Awaits


This came up in a game one time.

Retro Futurist
Aug 8, 2007

Yesterday's Tomorrow,
Today!


EccoRaven posted:

quote THIS post and I will tell you what thing in my living room most reminds me of you.

hexwren
Feb 27, 2008



Somberbrero posted:

This came up in a game one time.

Like five minutes ago yeah

MMM Whatchya Say
Aug 10, 2011

This doesn't taste like anything you've licked before


8bux and I did that in a game once too.

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010



Standard win cons:

Town: Eliminate all anti-town players
Scum: Have a majority of players remaining
SK: Be the last surviving player

Town wins if everyone gets obliterated.

GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011



Tremendous Taste posted:

Alex is very handsome

I'm HIm

MMM Whatchya Say
Aug 10, 2011

This doesn't taste like anything you've licked before


Amoeba102 posted:

Standard win cons:

Town: Eliminate all anti-town players
Scum: Have a majority of players remaining
SK: Be the last surviving player

Town wins if everyone gets obliterated.

In a sense all of these are met by scum and sk killing each other as the last two players

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010



SK hasn't survived. 0/0 isn't a majority.

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010



If it were scum and SK alive on the last day, scum has won already. If it's 3 man EXLO, and the townie goes, then you get a town victory unless someone withholds their kill.

MMM Whatchya Say
Aug 10, 2011

This doesn't taste like anything you've licked before


Calling everybody dead a town victory is just as troubling as calling it a scum or sk victory imo

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010



It's beautiful really. Best way to win a 3 team stand off is to martyr yourself. Or No Execute and go "Well, sure kill me, but he's going to kill you and win." Then they both kill you for being smug.

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010



Flooding the town and killing everyone was the correct moral choice.

EccoRaven
Aug 15, 2004

there is only one hell:
the one we live in now



a sheet of paper containing a poem I wrote my roommate

because you are poorly scribbled but have a good heart

Amoeba102 posted:

SK hasn't survived. 0/0 isn't a majority.

technically the victory is "unassailable control of the vote," not just a bare majority. there are times where a majority is not enough because of town killing roles.

Amoeba102 posted:

Flooding the town and killing everyone was the correct moral choice.

agreed.

DuckHuntDog
May 13, 2004



Ramrod XTreme

I would think that has to be a stalemate/nobody wins. Maybe call it a "Moderator Victory"?

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010



EccoRaven posted:

technically the victory is "unassailable control of the vote," not just a bare majority. there are times where a majority is not enough because of town killing roles.

True. So a scum and an SK alive on the last day isn't a scum victory. So I was wrong.

DuckHuntDog
May 13, 2004



Ramrod XTreme

If I were making a game with scum and SK both I might also make their kills different priorities rather than simultaneous.

MMM Whatchya Say
Aug 10, 2011

This doesn't taste like anything you've licked before


DuckHuntDog posted:

I would think that has to be a stalemate/nobody wins. Maybe call it a "Moderator Victory"?

I called it an ambiguous tie that's open to interpretation.

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010



Sooooooome times, everyyyybody wins.

MMM Whatchya Say
Aug 10, 2011

This doesn't taste like anything you've licked before


DuckHuntDog posted:

If I were making a game with scum and SK both I might also make their kills different priorities rather than simultaneous.

Yeah in he future I'll make this scenario an auto sk victory

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

The Pit Awaits


Assign action priority beforehand.

George Kansas
Sep 1, 2008

ad astra per proletarii


Nihilist Victory

hexwren
Feb 27, 2008



Somberbrero posted:

Assign action priority beforehand.

We actually talked about this in the scumdoc, in that I had a mistaken impression of what the OP's declaration of priority meant.

Runaktla
Feb 21, 2007


SK priority I'd say harder to win as SK instead of mafia.

MMM Whatchya Say
Aug 10, 2011

This doesn't taste like anything you've licked before


Somberbrero posted:

Assign action priority beforehand.

I actually did, but uh, well, next time I'll do this better

MMM Whatchya Say
Aug 10, 2011

This doesn't taste like anything you've licked before


Allen Wren posted:

We actually talked about this in the scumdoc, in that I had a mistaken impression of what the OP's declaration of priority meant.

To elaborate, I assigned an action priority but only with regards to a specific scenario and forgot to apply it in more general way. As a result it was sort of useless.

100YrsofAttitude
Apr 29, 2013

If I could have it back
All the time that we wasted
I'd only waste it again
If I could have it back
You know I'd love to waste it again
Waste it again and again and again

EccoRaven posted:

quote THIS post and I will tell you what thing in my living room most reminds me of you.

Happy 14th you guys

I wonder if the jets will fly over our place today, I don't think so.

busb
Mar 19, 2009

Anime for Trump.


100yrs have you been to La Grand Crèmerie?

I went there my last night in Paris on a friend's recommendation, and the cheese was fantastic!

EccoRaven
Aug 15, 2004

there is only one hell:
the one we live in now


100YrsofAttitude posted:

Happy 14th you guys

I wonder if the jets will fly over our place today, I don't think so.

the debussy sheet music on my roommate's keyboard, because you are french(-ish) but beloved by anglophones.

Somberbrero posted:

Assign action priority beforehand.

all actions happen simultaneously except stoppage actions (e.g. jailor), which in turn happen simultaneously.

if an SK and a mafia kill each other they both die fullstop.

100YrsofAttitude
Apr 29, 2013

If I could have it back
All the time that we wasted
I'd only waste it again
If I could have it back
You know I'd love to waste it again
Waste it again and again and again

busb posted:

100yrs have you been to La Grand Crèmerie?

I went there my last night in Paris on a friend's recommendation, and the cheese was fantastic!

I have not. My partner actually hates cheese so I don't eat it very often. I'll have to look into it and invite some other friends.

EccoRaven posted:

the debussy sheet music on my roommate's keyboard, because you are french(-ish) but beloved by anglophones.

I like Debussy.

Look Under The Rock
Oct 20, 2007

you can't take the sky from me


~*SECRET BUZZFEED*~

I'm gonna be on mobile for most of the day. Quote this post and I will PM you a (probably table breaking) picture from my phone that represents you.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply



Look Under The Rock posted:

~*SECRET BUZZFEED*~

I'm gonna be on mobile for most of the day. Quote this post and I will PM you a (probably table breaking) picture from my phone that represents you.

I enjoy secrets.

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


Look Under The Rock posted:

~*SECRET BUZZFEED*~

I'm gonna be on mobile for most of the day. Quote this post and I will PM you a (probably table breaking) picture from my phone that represents you.

This might be the best one yet.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008




Lipstick Apathy

hey you guys should stop being fuckwits and cheer up a bit

just saying

hello

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply



bowmore posted:

hey you guys should stop being fuckwits and cheer up a bit

just saying

hello

I disagree, everybody should be more aggressive and dour.

Ernie.
Aug 31, 2012



Asiina posted:

Quote this post and I will tell you which picture of my cats represents you.


subtle!!!

MMM Whatchya Say posted:

What's the community consensus on sk and scum killing each other as the only two players in the game. stalemate?

ask yourself this: what would happen if it happened during n1? would both kills resolve? or does one have a kill order? and then stick to it for the rest of your modding career.

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

In a sense, aren't all my posts worth reading?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIxOl1EraXA

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply



I'd say SK wins because their kill should get priority because SK is a harder wincon.

The end.

JakeP
Apr 27, 2003



Lipstick Apathy

Actually imho SK and Scum kill each other, all threats to the town are eliminated and the dead town wins!!!!

But seriously it comes down to what you would do if a scum and the SK targeted each other day 1, it shouldn't be any different at end game. If both would kill each other then my scenario for sure, if one goes before the other then that one would win

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MMM Whatchya Say
Aug 10, 2011

This doesn't taste like anything you've licked before


Well they'd both be dead, that was never up for debate. It's just a matter of whether thats considered a stalemate or a loss for the parties involved. I went stalemate since that is more fun than "everybody loses"

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