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Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

Well, he's never gon' be President now
Well, he's never gon' be President now
Well, he's never gon' be President now
That's one less thing to worry about


Grimey Drawer

Welcome to the Mafia Discussion Thread!
(the previous mafia threads)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zrtl41oZxOA

We have a discord server, an IRC Room (#mafia on irc.synirc.net) and a Skype room a lot of us hang out in. Mostly only the Discord server is active these days.

The Something Awful Mafia Wiki: The SA collaborative project for all things mafia related! It has mafia rules, common role information, and lots more, including a comprehensive list of mafia games played on SA. If you make a game, you'll want an account so you can add it to the wiki when it's over. Captchas are inside jokes in order to protect us from spambots. These are the answers:

Q: "What does Quidnose eat?" A: "poo poo"
Q: "Complete the phrase: God DAMNIT ________" A: "meinberg"
Q: "How many eggs can Keane eat in one sitting?" A: "not fifty"
Q: "Whats Eccos favorite food?" A: "bugs"
Q: "Who won Wild & Crazy Kids?" A: "jakep"


VoteFinder! Votefinder keeps a list of currently active games and automates the tallying process in games. The second post of this thread gives a little tutorial if you are modding your first game. If you have a problem with it, ask in the thread. It is being run by forum superstar Flying Leatherman who took it over from soru.

The Mafia New Game Sandbox & Announcement Thread: This thread is for discussing anything mafia! Mafia setups, previous mafia games, helping prospective mods to craft their own game, announcing said games once they are recruiting, anything! It is not for off-topic chat with the larger mafia community, that is for this thread!

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Games currently needing players!


Note: I will try to keep this list up to date. Check back here if you are looking to join a game!

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What the hell is Mafia?

dongsbot 9000 posted:

how about everyone promises to try really hard in mafia and make posts and then we all join ecco's game which will have some delightful twist like a scum jailer- ninja juggernaut interaction and tmm and kash will get into a big argument about something dumb and then a bunch of people will lurk cuz theyre playing wow and then we'll no lynch d1/d2 and then ill say something like "mafia is dead " and ill mess up lylo and everyone will say "yeah mafia is doing great"

mafia.txt

For an actual answer, mafia was originally a party game, and is sometimes known as Werewolf, that has been adapted to a Play by Post system on the forums. In this game two factions battle each other to control the game. The Mafia (commonly called "scum" on SA) are an informed minority while the Town are the uninformed majority. Mafia players know the identities of each other and usually are able to communicate privately and secretly. Town players do not know who else is town and cannot communicate with anyone privately, but as a whole they outnumber the mafia players by roughly 3 to 1. The goal of the town is to eliminate all mafia, while the goal of the mafia players is reach parity with the number of town players. Both mafia and town often have special roles which will aide them in accomplishing their goals. There also may be players who are neither town nor mafia, called Third Party or 3P, who may have alternate win conditions such as surviving until the end of the game or being the only person left alive.

Mafia games have a moderator who is in charge of creating the game's story and roles. They will post in the discussion thread and the New Game Announcement thread that they have opened a game for a certain number of signups. After the amount of people they want sign up they will private message each player with a role. This role contains information about that person's alignment (mafia, town, or 3P), any extra powers they have, and often some sort of information about their character in the story.

Once the game begins it is divided into two phases: Day and Night.

During the day phase, all players discuss in the game thread who they believe is a member of the mafia, and then vote for that person. Our forums has a vote bot which tallies votes that are formatted ##vote Playername. Once one person has received a majority of the votes, that player is hanged and removed from the game. They can no longer participate in the thread or in any private communications they had access to while alive. The moderator will post that person's alignment and role in the thread and end the day phase.

Once in night phase, there is no voting, and conversation may or may not be prohibited depending on the moderator. During this phase, the mafia choose someone to kill. As well, any extra powers that a player may have can be used. There are many possible powers, and moderators often come up with new ones, but there are several common ones such as Cop, who can learn the alignment of one other player each night; Doctor, who can protect one player each night from being killed; or Tracker, who can track another player and learn about any targets they visit. Mafia may have powers such as roleblocker, who can prevent another player from using their special powers for a night. After all actions have been received by the moderator and processed, they will announce who has died during the night and begin the next day phase where the cycle begins again. This continues until one faction has reached their win condition and the game ends in victory for Town, mafia, and/or 3P.

While these are standard rules, there can be a lot of variation in setup. Almost all of these can and have been broken in one game or another.


Purpose of this thread

This thread has a mix of on-topic and off-topic discussion. If you are looking for exclusively on-topic discussion about mafia mechanics, then check out the The Mafia New Game Sandbox & Announcement Thread.

This thread is for discussing all things mafia! Talk about completed games you have played in, rules and roles you like or don't like, variations on the above rules you think would be interesting, strategies you saw or came up with, or conventions that you don't understand.

This thread is also for general discussion within the SA Mafia community, and not necessarily related to mafia. We have a very active player base and despite what it may look like in games where we call each other idiots, we're all friends here. We do our best to leave any aggression from games in that game's thread. We are also very welcoming to newcomers, so feel free to hop in if you have questions or want to join a game. There are a number of offshoot projects like people playing other games using mafia players as characters, we had a virtual wrestling league, and we run a yearly Secret Santa. This is a very active thread and may appear daunting at first, but feel free to just jump right in wherever the conversation may be. There's no need to read back, just skip to the end and join in, or change the topic to something else if you want. It's very casual.

One hard rule to remember is to never talk about ongoing games outside of that game. Most people in the discussion thread are in one, if not more, mafia games at any time. If you've just died in a game, don't come to the discussion thread to talk about your role or anything that happened in the thread. Wait until the game is over, there's usually discussion in the game thread after a game has ended.


F.A.Q.
  • How do I sign up for a game?
    Any games that are looking for signups will be listed in this OP. Just post in that game thread. If there are no games that are looking for signups feel free to ask if any games are starting. There are a lot of people who want to mod games and have setups ready to go, but are waiting to make sure there are enough people who want to play.

  • Can I join any game?
    Absolutely, but read the OP of the game you are signing up for. There are some that are more complicated or unconventional than others and may not be the best type of game to play if it's your first time. Mods will usually list any unusual parts of their setup in their introduction.

  • What if I want to mod a game myself?
    Go ahead! If you have modding questions or have a cool idea but aren't sure how to implement it, send a PM to Opopanax and he'll give it a look-over. Alternatively just asking the thread usually works as well! People are more than willing to be co-mods or help with balance for people who are just starting out. If you want to give modding a try but aren't comfortable balancing a game from scratch there are a couple of newbie setups to help you get your feet wet. There is also a votefinder tutorial following this post.

  • I am really bad at this game How do I improve?
    Everyone is bad at mafia. Anyone who says otherwise is lying. It can take a while to get into the swing of things and you will likely be called scummy in your first few games. The most important thing to do is relax and just have fun. Try to be honest with your opinions and don't be scared of being wrong. Better to have voiced your opinion and been wrong about it than to lurk and town has nothing to go on if you die. Remember that even if one or two people vote for you, they'll have to convince everyone else in order for you to die, so just keep on saying what you think. It's also possible that the people who are voting for you are not on the same side as you, so don't be discouraged when getting pressured. Finally dying is not a big deal! Most people are going to die during the course of a mafia game. Your death may give town important information that they can use to win or you may buy your scum team the leverage and town cred they need to carry them through the game. So just keep trying your best and if you die for it, there's always another game.

  • Someone said something mean and it hurt my emotions.
    This is a game of deception and so people are going to be throwing around a lot of accusations. People may also be pushing you in order to test your reaction and see if you are town. This game does require a thick skin. but sometimes this can go too far and get personal. Remember that most of the time the game is just a game. People will be calling each other idiots and jerks in one game, and then chatting in the discussion thread 5 minutes later like nothing happened. That said, we are all friends here and if someone is genuinely upsetting, you should tell them (or the game's moderator) and that can help. Sometimes just walking away from the computer for a while is all it takes.

  • What does hammer or mean?
    Hammer refers to when someone has reached the majority threshold to get hanged and end the day. The person who puts them over the top is said to have hammered them. Unless the mod has explicitly said otherwise, all conversation should immediately stop when someone hammers and the players should wait for the mod to post.

  • What does mean?


Helpful Links:
  • Mafiascum.net: Has a huge archive of games you can browse through, and you can play games there if you don't mind the (rather) slow pace.
  • Mafiascum wiki: They also have their own wiki with a list of various roles for inspiration. Note that these roles may be different from the standard on SA.
  • Role Spreadsheet: A spreadsheet compiled by SA forums user Met details lots and lots of different roles, with information about different classes of roles.
  • Random.org sequence generator: It's the easiest way for moderators to randomly assign roles.
  • Time zone converter: Very useful for international players (most mafia players are in North America).

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Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

Well, he's never gon' be President now
Well, he's never gon' be President now
Well, he's never gon' be President now
That's one less thing to worry about


Grimey Drawer

The Wonderful World of Votefinder

Votefinder is our tallying system on SA for mafia games and it has a whole bunch of very cool features!

How to make a game

1) Make a thread in The Game Room with Mafia in the title.

2) Make an account or Log in to Votefinder.

3) Go to Add a Game

4) Votefinder should list all current Mafia games in TGR. Choose yours and click the link to assign you as the moderator.

5) Once you have a page that looks like this, you're all done!



Important features

Most of votefinder is pretty self-explanatory, but there are a few features to note for first time moderators

How to change your playerlist

When you first ask votefinder to find your thread it's going to list everyone who has posted in that thread as part of the player list.

You'll want to take out people who aren't playing by dragging them to the spectator column.



Also remember to move players from living to dead before opening the next day.

Posting the Votecount

On the votecount tab you will see the current votecount for that day.



All players can see this tab and the box to manually copy and paste the current votecount, but only the moderator can use the "Post Votecount" button to make votefinder post. After this button has been pressed it will be unavailable for an hour.

The post votecount button makes votefinder post what the current votecount is, but you can also have an automatically updating picture of the votecount by clicking this button at the top of the page.



Put this in your OP (usually right at the top) so that your players can automatically check the votecount at any time without having to go to votefinder.

Finally, always make sure to post the votecount at the end of the day after someone has been hammered (they have reached the threshold to be hanged) since votefinder resets the votecount at the beginning of a new day. Knowing how everyone was voting at the end of the day is very important to town.

Making a playerlist

Under "Tools" votefinder will automatically create a playerlist that links each name to that player's post history in the thread.



This is an absolutely essential tool for your players as they will frequently be checking people's post histories. Replace your handmade player list during signups with this as soon as the game starts.

Closing your game

Always close your game!!! This will remove it from the active games list, so that list doesn't become cluttered and give you a wiki code for the victory. You'll need to register an account at the wiki to post it there. If for whatever reason you can't register, post the information in the thread and someone will add it for you. Just be sure to change (something) to whichever team won.



Making a Template

By default, votefinder posts look like this.



If you want votefinder to say something different or give different information you can change how votefinder will post by making a template. To do so click on your name and go to "My Templates"



From there you can go in and change text, how votes are displayed, what information is displayed, and so on. Click Show Instructions if you want to be sure you're not going to break it.



That's basically all there is to know about votefinder. It's a simple but invaluable tool when moderating a game.

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Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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Well, he's never gon' be President now
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Grimey Drawer

Community Stuff!!

Discord Server - Our unofficial replacement for IRC and/or Skype because we can't make up our minds what platform we like. The link keeps expiring, so ask in the thread or PM me if you want to be added

Our DJ Room - Come listen to music with other mafia players.

Movie Fantasy League - Open a theatre, populate your screens, try to make the most money each week. League: SAMafia, Password: rollingstart

Town of Salem - Sometimes people play this mafia game, although the rules are a little different. You can buy it on steam or play in your browser for free.

A map of mafia players - Come place where you are, this is a little out of date, but still sorta useful.

SA Mafia Fantasy Wrestling League - CPig made a wrestling league for us. It's done now, but still a good read.

MAFIA SECRET SANTA 2014 - Every year we do a Secret Santa and it is great, here is last year's.

Fantasy Mafia League - A metagame from a few years ago where people made a fantasy league of SA mafia players.

Mafia Civ 5 - Several mafia goons play Civ5 together, coordinated through this thread.

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Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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Goddamn you Ecco!

Thread ruined!

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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Ernie. posted:

We also did a fantasy mafia league which Mills ran! And we do the Civilization thing, Asii!

Link those and I'll add them.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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Dexanth posted:

I am going to say hi and then disappear for another year that sounds fun

hi!

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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The password is: kangaroo

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Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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BottleKnight posted:

I'm eating ribs and pork loin and wishing I had pineapple pizza.

I am having teriyaki steak and cheesy vegetables and man it's pretty drat good.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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WHICH WAY MADNESS posted:

What the poo poo Lana, way to close the thread.

I'm on your mafia map thing now. Also whoever was asking about pre-apocalypse stuff, check out Miracle Mile.

I like post apocalypse though. I like Book of Eli and the Road for movies. For books, I like On the Beach, Level 7, and Warday.

I saw the movie The Road and while it was pretty good, I was annoyed that we never found out why it was like that. It's the ultimate "we skipped the process" I was talking about. I imagine reading the book would annoy me more. I know that some people really like it for partially that reason, but it skips the most interesting part.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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MMM Whatchya Say posted:

One day this kingdom will be mine.

In 1000 pages!

Start posting.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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BottleKnight posted:

Asiina is my master now.

Don't make it weird!

I was talking to goons in the dota chat while waiting for a game and it's amazing how many people actually legitimately believe that they lose most of the time because matchmaking is biased against them.

EDIT:


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Apr 26, 2011

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BottleKnight posted:

The OP reminded me of a couple of things I want answered!

1. Is there a story behind or is it just funny to you guys for no reason?

2. Why do you guys randomly post pictures of characters from chrono cross sometimes?

1) I believe I already addressed that in the FAQ please read the OP.

2)

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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Same.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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uranus posted:

what do you write assina

Education and Psychology articles.

My first publication was a government report though and publicly available.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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uranus posted:

you work for... THE GOVERMENT

I used to!

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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I added this to the OP. If people announce their games here or in the new game thread I will put them in the OP.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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I went to bed too late last night and then had a dream I was binge watching something on Netflix with a friend far longer than either of us wanted to but we felt compelled to finish the episode. As soon as we decided to give up and go bed my real alarm went off.

I'm so tired.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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When I had a lot of free time one of my favourite roles I made for myself was to make me unconfirmed masons with everyone else in the game. It was very time consuming though.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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I just watched It Follows, which was pretty good but I kept having hosed up thoughts about where the plot either was going to go or should be going so in comparison the movie was quite tame compared to the things I was thinking.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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Somberbrero posted:

Yeah, I felt like it was an amazing premise with so-so execution. Horror films!

It also annoyed me how her arm was broken and in a cast, but after she got in the water and it was soft she was putting all of her weight on it when she was crawling to the edge of the pool.

Also it's basically this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HINYhLtaaxc

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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Captain Foo posted:

nobody sent me a pizza yet wtf

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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The West Wing

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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I'm pretty close to where I think i'd put me.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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Also the key to the discussion thread is to not read anything if you haven't caught up. Just hit last post and go.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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I listed Pig as someone in the OP and in the votefinder tutorial to message to add your game to the wiki, so maybe people will be better about it? I dunno, I always PM Pig my games.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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BRB Ragequitting again.

In all seriousness, I think that a solo 3P win is something that's probably not going to happen no matter what you do as a mod, so just give the role something fun to do while they are playing to make up for it.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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I'm okay with my spot.

I'm watching an Australian movie about racism and learning so much about Australian racism.

Good times.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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I've tried watching Firefly a bunch of times and never make it more than 2 episodes in.

It's pretty bad, guys.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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I really liked Cabin in the Woods and I'm glad I watched it the way I did, which is knowing absolutely nothing about it. I didn't know who made it or that it was supposed to be satire or meta, so it was an interesting adventure just watching the whole thing unfold.

Also I just finished watching The Sapphires which was a very good movie and Ecco you should watch it for your next movie night.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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This is a cool thing.

I'm listening to the music from ActRaiser, which is amazing. I think if I ever did some charity video game streaming or something of that nature I'd play ActRaiser because it's a fantastic game.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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CapitalistPig posted:

The fantasy mafia thing is in the OP, you know, if you wanted to read it.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...hreadid=3566214

Pfft, nobody reads OPs

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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Hufflepuff are the C students of Hogwarts.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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I did Pottermore and got Hufflepuff.

Probably shouldn't have poo poo talked them earlier.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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10 1/4 inch, Rowan, Dragon, Surprisingly Swishy.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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Mithross posted:

I'm going to PAX! That doesn't help you at all, I'm just really excited.

I have been to PAX many times and it's just the greatest thing. I'm always a little sad whenever one goes by and I can't go. You'll have a blast!

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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uranus posted:

i went to pax twice but i was working there both times so i didnt do much

As an enforcer or just part of the convention centre staff? A lot of my friends started out as attendees and then became enforcers. Enforcers are the poo poo. Maybe I'll go back and be one someday when I have the money to travel.

Also I really like PAX East honestly more than PAX Prime, but most of my friends go to Prime. I feel like the venue is a lot better in Boston than Seattle. Seattle can't hold a convention the size of PAX so stuff is spread over like 10 blocks which can be a pain with trying to go to different things and not having time or wanting to trudge up and down that hill. The only bad thing about the BCEC is that it's far from any sort of food, so there's little choice but to either eat their overpriced cafeteria food or miss a bunch of things to go across the bridge to find a restaurant.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

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uranus posted:

i used to work for bideo games. so i was standing in a booth talking to people about game

Ah, that must have been annoying and loud. Of the 3-4 days of PAX I spend maybe an hour total in the expo hall. It's just sensory overload.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

Well, he's never gon' be President now
Well, he's never gon' be President now
Well, he's never gon' be President now
That's one less thing to worry about


Grimey Drawer

I liked the new money that was before this new money. It was nice and sturdy without being this annoying slippery plastic. I have lost so many 10s and 20s because I'll go to pull something out of my pocket and they'll just slip right out and fly away.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

Well, he's never gon' be President now
Well, he's never gon' be President now
Well, he's never gon' be President now
That's one less thing to worry about


Grimey Drawer

I made pot roast in my slow cooker today and it's so tender that I can't even cut it. I tried to slice it and it just fell apart, it's so drat good.

The gravy is a little spicier than I wanted it to be, but it's still super delicious.

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Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

Well, he's never gon' be President now
Well, he's never gon' be President now
Well, he's never gon' be President now
That's one less thing to worry about


Grimey Drawer

Yeah our money has braille on it, and the coins are different sizes and all have different edges so you can tell them apart.

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