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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Thank you for starting this thread. Su-25 claim was made by a single retarded TV channel, quickly picked up by a few fringed idiots and blown out completely out of proportion by the western media who tried and did to spin it as "official russian goverment position. It is not, nor do I know anyone who seriously conciders it to be a theory. It was a BUK missle, simple as that. I ask you to make the distinction between Russian nationals and Russian Army regular forces. Russian Army regular forces are NOT present in fighting. Composition of Russians/other nationalities is around 15% Russians, 70% Ukrainians and the rest divided between other ethnicities. My unit had 6 Ukrainians, 2 Russians, a Tajik, and a Czech. Debaltsevo was mostly carried on the back of tank battallion "August", whom I had the pleasure of working with for a good duration of time, including during the Debaltsevo cauldron. I knew a lot of good men that died there. I wish Russia would have helped. Wouldn't be so drat bloody then. JcDent posted:Do you think current NATO deployments in Baltics and Poland threaten Russia? If so, then how? Why would NATO invade Russia? Maidan started as a peaceful protest, not the first of it's kind in the Post-USSR Ukraine. How it ended the way it did? Honestly, I do not know. Yes, there was probably a few pushes by CIA/whatever in the right direction, but it shouldn't have been so bloody without intervention. It's a shame those people never got what they wanted in the first place - economic association treaties or NATO membership. Still not an excuse, as those in Kiev shouldnt be able to speak for the whole country. Because the current "goverment" goals, at least from my point of view, is simply stealing what they can, while blaming all their problems on the old goverment, the rebels, russia, whatever. When it'll get too hot, they'll leave. The rest of your questions are... geopolitics. I do not know enough about international law, nor do I know the texts of agreements that controlled the presence of russian military on their bases in Crimea, so I cannot speak on that count, however: We took it, it IS better for Crimean people(Do you agree with that?). Was it illegal by other countries laws? Yes, probably. Was it illegal by Russian ones? No, it was not. But Putin got away with it, so yeah. Krym Nash, Nyash Myash. Paladinus posted:People on both sides tend to throw accusations of nazism. In your experience, how many people in LNR/DNR blame Jews for orchestrating Maidan and following events? Do you yourself believe in things like Conception of Social Security (Концепция общественной безопасности) or other grand conspiracies? I do not know anyone in DNR, outside of a single drunkard cossaс who would ever mention the joos in that context. I have not heard of that theory. kalstrams posted:What's the state of infrastructure - water, heat, sewers, electricity, roads, communications - in the settlements you have been to within the conflict areas? What is the state of printed and/or radio- and/or TV-broadcasted media in the areas of conflict?      And it's not like war damages, no. This road(A federal road, if the Ukraine had been a federation), simply hasn't been repaired since the 2000's. At least the new people in charge are plugging the bloody holes. I know there are radio stations in both republics, but they've got extremely lovely music selection so I havent really bothered listening to them any. I know there ARE TV broadcasts, but the last time I've seen a TV was probably 2014, so eh. Basic chow on base, various porriges with long-term-kept meat(I am afraid of looking at the date stamps on it, honestly.), soups, macaronis with the same meat. No sweets, no vegetables or fruit. Tea only when going to/from combat ops. Sugar's freely avaliable because nobody's gonna chow it up as is, right? Of course, nothing prohibiting you from just... buying things yourself? There are no shortages of anything in stores or markets. The only thing I have not been able to find here is tabasco and peanut butter. When I worked in Luhansk, I rented an apartment and just cooked for myself. I do not understand the last question, I'm afraid. Are you asking whether I had been a part of some fringe group? Dorstein posted:Do you have any opinions about the Greece troubles? I have big respect for the NATO members military. Aside from the few european freeloaders, it's an excellent alliance, formiddable, professional, and strong. Big respects for the US, Canada, UK and France servicemembers. Flavahbeast posted:What's your opinion of Mozdgovoi, and who do you think is responsible for his death? Baloogan posted:Can you write "from russia with love" on something and then post the image? Lucy Heartfilia posted:This will be you in a couple of decades OP: And who would that be?
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How do you account for all the Russian military equipment? How is it that "freedom fighters" have more weaponry and supplies than the Mujaheddin had in Afghanistan? If Russian tanks and AA defense systems are some how making their way across the border, doesnt that mean either that 1) the Russian Federal government is supplying and supporting these forces directly, 2) the Russian military is so slapdash and corrupt that they are loosing whole armories and entire tank brigades just driving out across the border.
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HoratioRash posted:I mostly support him on his external policies. His policy of forcibly seizing whatever he can get away with from weaker neighbors?
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I'm not going to deny that Ukraine has been involved in war crimes during this conflict. But the idea that the separatist are somehow "the good guys" in all of this is laughable. Here are some links to stories about separatist atrocities. I know you are going to handwave this away by saying "these people were punished," or something like that. But the evidence from Amnesty is pretty clear on how the separatist are engaging in systematic torture and kidnapping http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/10/russian-fighter-ukraine-motorola https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2014/09/ukraine-mounting-evidence-war-crimes-and-russian-involvement/ http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28250981 http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/26/us-ukraine-crisis-un-idUSKBN0KZ2DN20150126 https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/europe-and-central-asia/ukraine/report-ukraine/ P.S. I know it is hard to believe that you are fighting for a repressive regime led by a thug, but I hope you can come to terms with it eventually.
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HoratioRash posted:I have big respect for the NATO members military. Aside from the few european freeloaders, it's an excellent alliance, formiddable, professional, and strong. Big respects for the US, Canada, UK and France servicemembers. woot you are the best russian on SA.
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HoratioRash posted:I do not understand the last question, I'm afraid. Are you asking whether I had been a part of some fringe group? Edit: I should probably add that I mean in this rather broadly, as in, say, I would consider Cossacks or, say, Old Believers to be a fringe group. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Jul 7, 2015 |
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OP, if you don't mind I'd like to ask a couple more questions about ideologies at play there. Is there a religious angle in your opinion? Are people maybe afraid of Kyiv Patriarchate and Uniats seizing their churches? Any general concerns around further secularisation of Ukraine? I know that many DNR/LNR higher-ups often pose as defenders of the faith, but I'm not sure if it's a popular idea among general public. Have you ever met people who identify as 100% Ukrainian and maybe even speak exclusively Ukrainian, but for whatever reason choose to support separatists? What would their reasons be?
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HoratioRash posted:And who would that be? A Nazi war criminal finally brought to justice.
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HoratioRash posted:We use commercially available equipment - Chinese airplane shells, ardupilot, dji pilot, also additional sensoric payload and cameras(GoPros, slaved DSLR with zoom lenses). I maintain the electronics, set them up, repair and adjust software side of things, wire up the electricals. I also charge, repair and assemble battery packs. We do both high-res aerial photography through the cameras and low-res live feed through high-gain wifi. We record armor and troop movement, enemy position updates and also artillery correction is some cases. We're the only units that has stepped up from dji phantoms. What sort of motors do you use? Sounds like electric, but is it standard or EDF? Do you hand-launch, catapult, or just run them up from a road/ grass field? What is the typical size and weight of your UAVs? How do you get the electronics? Do you order online from China to Russia/Ukraine and then have some helpers bring them in? Or are you buying stuff secondhand from inside Russia? Any domestic-made gear, or is it all Chinese? You should carry SDRs on your aircraft. You could get a functional system together for probably less than 100 grams, then you could do electronic sniffing on their radio traffic. Talk to the guys in our amateur radio threads, UAV threads, and YOSPOS. Lol @ A Pale Horse. In war nobody is right or wrong. Baloogan posted:Can you write "from russia with love" on something and then post the image? Make sure to remove EXIF data, or a Ukrainian on these forums could leak information and strike you with artillery. I recommend stripping all data by yourself, then uploading to InfoTomb to automatically delete in 2 weeks. Also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4IgNPmaKkw Horatio, you say you respect some NATO but not others. Opinions on Germans and Poles? Hogge Wild posted:Why do you Russians like to make life lovely for everyone, including yourself? We don't know any other way. alex314 posted:How much do you earn now? What's the starting salary? Were you trained in Russia? Was there a background check before you were allowed in? I will guess: $0, $0, Yes, yes. Any pay he gets is probably irregular and not enough. He's likely self-funding stuff like buying extra food, computers etc. If he is smart enough to play EVE and dick around with drones, maybe he is smart enough to run a small porn site to make some money. I don't really know, of course, but it's fun to guess. Keldoclock fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Jul 7, 2015 |
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Gaj posted:How do you account for all the Russian military equipment? How is it that "freedom fighters" have more weaponry and supplies than the Mujaheddin had in Afghanistan? If Russian tanks and AA defense systems are some how making their way across the border, doesnt that mean either that 1) the Russian Federal government is supplying and supporting these forces directly, 2) the Russian military is so slapdash and corrupt that they are loosing whole armories and entire tank brigades just driving out across the border. Please, bear in mind that both Donetsk and Luhansk regions were the most heavily industrialized and developed regions of the country in terms of factories, repair facilities, research facilities and the rest. As a result, it also had the biggest equipment and weapon storages in the entire region of rostov/ukrainian ssr. I wish Russia helped. We could use functional tanks, We could use repair kits that arent made anymore and we ran out of storaged ones after Debaltsevo. I wish our armor didnt have first-gen shitass NVGs it has. I wish we had actual, military radios instead of five old soviet ones for a batallion, with tanks having bloody car radios installed in them. sparatuvs posted:Has Russia apparently shutting off power to Donbass had any effect? Kill Dozed posted:I'm not going to deny that Ukraine has been involved in war crimes during this conflict. But the idea that the separatist are somehow "the good guys" in all of this is laughable. Here are some links to stories about separatist atrocities. I know you are going to handwave this away by saying "these people were punished," or something like that. But the evidence from Amnesty is pretty clear on how the separatist are engaging in systematic torture and kidnapping And yes. Again, there are unfortunate incidents like that. Some battalions in DNR I would gladly see gone. Praetorians. Cossacs. All of the Cossacs, I bloody hate Cossacs. Again, those are the fringe cases and yes, I will say that those people are punished, something I do not see on the other side, except maybe the recent Tornado battalion case? Even then, why is Aidar, PS and the rest of the fun groups allowed to exist? Simple reason - Tornado stopped following orders. Others didnt. Paladinus posted:OP, if you don't mind I'd like to ask a couple more questions about ideologies at play there. Baloogan posted:Do you think "Rooskie" or "ruskie" is offensive? alex314 posted:How much do you earn now? What's the starting salary? Were you trained in Russia? Was there a background check before you were allowed in? Keldoclock posted:That's disappointing. I've seen some light cargo aircraft being sold in Ukraine right now for very cheap, less than $200,000. You could conceivably improvise some sort of bomb delivery.  Electric. We mostly hand launch, but we were just starting to switch to catapults recently. Most of the problem with catapults wwas with reinforcing the shell enough for it not to deform, crack or otherwise damage itself during the launch. That problem we fixed, to a certain degree. We use Moscow-based shops(In fact, most of the parts for both them and us come are bought in the same shops!). It's mostly chinese-made, such as the fuselages for FW. Carbon-fibre props mostly. SDR is an interesting idea, but since they have no problem with comm encryption, it'd be pretty useless for us. Neither Germany, nor Poland have a functional army at this moment. Poles have a few amazing special-forces groups, but I cannot say I respect them as a military fighting force. Same stands for Germany. sparatuvs posted:drat, I had just the shell in mind. Hey, would you be that guy who started writing names on the shells on reddit or something? That's hilarious. You in VSU or NG?
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I wish, that guy has quite a following. I did get in contact with him (Or someone advertising the same thing) to get some super ironic catchphrases written on shells. Also have you seen Vice's "Selfie Soldiers"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zssIFN2mso Do you have a rebuttal to it? ass struggle fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Jul 8, 2015 |
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OP, 1. Did you at any point after Maidan consider the Ukrainian government to be a "junta "? If so, why, and how does it fit the definition of the word? 2. Can you name any atrocities perpetrated against Russians outside the Donbass in Kharkov, Odessa, Nikolaev, etc. during the last 12 months? 3. What do you think DNR/LNR are even fighting for at this point? What do you think the Ukrainians are fighting for? 4. How would you and people you know in the Donbass or Russia react if the rumors that DNR and LNR are going to be "flushed" turn out to be true? Horns of Hattin fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Jul 8, 2015 |
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sparatuvs posted:I wish, that guy has quite a following. I did get in contact with him (Or someone advertising the same thing) to get some super ironic catchphrases written on shells. Wait, there was a Reddit guy doing that? Got a link?
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In what way are you a separatist if you are foreign to the country you are fighting in, fighting in a force led by (and seemingly comprised largely of) foreign nationals, using foreign-provided equipment, with the apparent goal of occupation or annexation of territory? The terms Mercenary, War Tourist, illegal combatant, or occupying soldier would seem to better describe your role in affairs (depending on the technicalities). How do you reconcile the Russian government's admission of the military occupation and seizure of Crimea via Russian troops following months of rather absurd claims to the contrary, similar to the absurd denials made regarding the current "separatists"? What did you think of the various videos released by separatists immediately following the shoot down of the airliner in which they claimed responsibility and celebrated it as though it had been a military plane? What about the subsequent removal of these videos shortly following the announcement of the missing airliner? Warbadger fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Jul 8, 2015 |
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sparatuvs posted:drat, I had just the shell in mind. I am unready for a world where this isn't just a funny forum joke but also actually something that could've conceivably happened, if unlikely. Does SA have any rules for forum-members killing each other during wars? Hell, what's the protocol if a Ukrainian soldier or militia member starts posting their own ask/tell? HoratioRash, how would you feel about talking with Ukrainian combatants online? Would you be able to casually chat about how the war's going or the usual pop-culture stuff, while working to kill each other offline? Warbadger posted:What did you think of the various videos released by separatists immediately following the shoot down of the airliner in which they claimed responsibility and celebrated it as though it had been a military plane? What about the subsequent removal of these videos shortly following the announcement of the missing airliner? That's a good one, but we'd probably need some screenshots/quotes/other materials on hand along with the question to help back it up. I remember seeing it when it happened but I don't have copies, Brown Moses would probably. Is he around?
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HoratioRash posted:And yes. Again, there are unfortunate incidents like that. Some battalions in DNR I would gladly see gone. Praetorians. Cossacs. All of the Cossacs, I bloody hate Cossacs. They are apparently receiving a "stipend" of $2000 USD a week, more than competitive with what the Syrian government is currently offering to "volunteers".
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Dolash posted:I am unready for a world where this isn't just a funny forum joke but also actually something that could've conceivably happened, if unlikely. Does SA have any rules for forum-members killing each other during wars? There should be an award for topfragging poster. Like a WWE style belt that displays under your name. Maybe a betting pool  HoratioRash posted:
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Asked earlier believe it was skipped... What would cause the LNR/DNR to end the war? What terms?
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OP, you helped to displace more than a million people who fled to other parts of Ukraine. Because of you more than half of the people who fled cannot return home. They are innocent and want you and your war gone. Do you feel sympathy for these people or do they deserve it? Edit: Some advice: Russia about to drop you and your fellow occupiers like a hot potato. Make sure that you are ready to leave at any time. Lucy Heartfilia fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Jul 8, 2015 |
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He is a self-funded war tourist at best, Putin is probably laughing at his situation while defrauding his mother of her state pension and corruptly selling his Moscow real estate to his mafia buddies after firing him from whatever law firm wouldn't toe the Kremlin line.
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:OP, you helped to displace more than a million people who fled to other parts of Ukraine. Because of you more than half of the people who fled cannot return home. They are innocent and want you and your war gone. Man, I was expecting more "Death to HoratioRash" in this post.
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:OP, you helped to displace more than a million people who fled to other parts of Ukraine. Because of you more than half of the people who fled cannot return home. They are innocent and want you and your war gone. Two of them are my grandmothers! Olya and Vera say привет! To be fair though its hardly his fault. He helped to make this happen only slightly more than you, Lucy Heartfilia, or I did.
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sparatuvs posted:I wish, that guy has quite a following. I did get in contact with him (Or someone advertising the same thing) to get some super ironic catchphrases written on shells. That somehow, one retard kid posting, unconfirmed, geotagged crap is the proof? I know since it's "proof of russian involvement" you will not be able to examine it in any critical capacity, but hey. I'll repeat myself probably and say that VICE hasn't been about journalism for awhile now - it has turned into drama war films. eigenstate posted:OP, 1. It's a government that exists through an armed takeover of power by using existing forces, that, while not being officially recognized back then, are now officially part of ukrainian military. 2. Are the constant hounding of russian-speakers and politically "unreliable" people no enough for you? Constant use of force, arrests, simply beating people up? I could link a lot of russian-language media, but that'd be kremlin lies for you, would they? I knew a guy who died in that Odessa fire. But those people burned themselves, correct? 3. Same as they did. Survival, independence. 4. Project Novorossiya is not closed. Warbadger posted:In what way are you a separatist if you are foreign to the country you are fighting in, fighting in a force led by (and seemingly comprised largely of) foreign nationals, using foreign-provided equipment, with the apparent goal of occupation or annexation of territory? The terms Mercenary, War Tourist, illegal combatant, or occupying soldier would seem to better describe your role in affairs (depending on the technicalities). This is my land, Ukrainians make up the most of men serving(But you wont believe that), using same pre-breakup equipment as they should(But you wont believe that). Call me what you wish. Ill call you a pinkiegiggles. That okay with you, pinkiegiggles? Has adopting a new name changed anything in your life? joat mon posted:What kind of law did you practice? Does that training help at all with your current activities? steinrokkan posted:Did you end up engaging the enemy in a firefight? Not asking if you killed somebody, just if you actually got under fire at some point, or if you served behind the front lines. Dolash posted:Hell, what's the protocol if a Ukrainian soldier or militia member starts posting their own ask/tell? HoratioRash, how would you feel about talking with Ukrainian combatants online? Would you be able to casually chat about how the war's going or the usual pop-culture stuff, while working to kill each other offline? I'd love a VSU/NG thread and I'd ask those people a lot of questions. War is not a reason to be rude. AceRimmer posted:What is your opinion of foreign volunteers (Chetniks and such)? I assume you like them even less than the Cossacks. kalstrams posted:Fringe group stuff Runaktla posted:Asked earlier believe it was skipped... Complete removal of Ukrainian forces outside the Oblast' borders, then independence. Lucy Heartfilia posted:OP, you helped to displace more than a million people who fled to other parts of Ukraine. Because of you more than half of the people who fled cannot return home. They are innocent and want you and your war gone. I do not feel any sympathy for military-age able-bodied men. Rest, yes, tragic. Keldoclock posted:Two of them are my grandmothers! Olya and Vera say привет!
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HoratioRash posted:That somehow, one retard kid posting, unconfirmed, geotagged crap is the proof? I know since it's "proof of russian involvement" you will not be able to examine it in any critical capacity, but hey. I'll repeat myself probably and say that VICE hasn't been about journalism for awhile now - it has turned into drama war films. Did you actually watch the video? Simon visited all the place he'd been, both inside Russia and Ukraine and recreated the photographs, could you explain how he could recreate this photo in Ukraine if it was "unconfirmed, geotagged crap"?  Could you also explain how Pantsir-S1's ended up in Ukraine when they Ukrainian military doesn't have them (but the Russian military does)?
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There also is an informative report on Atlantic Council's website, OP. Also, how come Donbass is your land if you're from Moscow? Speaking of displaced people - where do you source your numbers? They seem to be rather different from those by UN, for example, as seen here: 
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How does righteous war of liberation mesh with feeding PoWs their own unit insignias on camera or leading PoWs through the streets for the populace to spit on them, or artillery shooting-and-scooting from living hoods? And if the cause is so righteous, then why the propaganda like this?
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