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I really enjoyed how dramatic they were about "this season we're giving the human canvas jury even more power!" and then the jury picked a tattoo the judges liked and they were all like "well of course you're safe, the jury picked wrong and we're disregarding their vote" in the very first episode.
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Keep the human canvas jury if only because the highlight of every show is having a dude get his brand new tattoo get ripped on by a group of people while he feebly says "I...I thought it looked okay" and slowly realizes it looks awful. The best is when the do a quick cut to his/her reaction and it's either offended or dawning realization.
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Jul 29, 2015 22:01
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OldTennisCourt posted:Keep the human canvas jury if only because the highlight of every show is having a dude get his brand new tattoo get ripped on by a group of people while he feebly says "I...I thought it looked okay" and slowly realizes it looks awful. The best is when the do a quick cut to his/her reaction and it's either offended or dawning realization. This is the absolute best part of this show. It's pretty clear that the jury doesn't influence the final decision at all so I'm fine with them sticking around. Not Today Satan posted:Echoing everyone's sentiment about Kruseman. Curious to see how things pan out for him post Ink Master. I think he should be fine - he didn't follow the rules and could have justifiably been booted, but I don't think people will hold not doing a garbage tattoo idea because it would suck against him. I'm more curious how things pan out for people like MV or Earl who hosed up really hard + memorably.
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Not Today Satan posted:
I haven't seen the latest episode, but I'm sure I'm going to talk to Kruseman at the Pagoda City tattoo convention in a couple weeks, so I can see how being on the shows affected him so far. I've seen him being featured on a lot of promotions for the convention along with other tv personalities like Megan Massacre, so I'm going to guess its been good so far for him personally. I noticed he had a lot more Instagram followers now since the show started.
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Power of Pecota posted:This is the absolute best part of this show. It's pretty clear that the jury doesn't influence the final decision at all so I'm fine with them sticking around. It's not so much that they influence anything, it's just a waste of time. I don't give a poo poo about their thoughts and opinions. Although I do agree, it is fun to watch someone try to defend their lovely tattoo "no...it was supposed to be like that!" Power of Pecota posted:I think he should be fine - he didn't follow the rules and could have justifiably been booted, but I don't think people will hold not doing a garbage tattoo idea because it would suck against him. I'm more curious how things pan out for people like MV or Earl who hosed up really hard + memorably. I don't think it was a garbage tattoo idea, just one you had to be creative to think your way out of. I forget who had the matching tattoo but I thought she was really creative with how she placed it. She obviously wasn't as technically sound but she had a great idea. Krusemen didn't even try. And I think it wouldn't be sticking in peoples craw so much were it not for what happened a few seasons ago with Craig.
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Yeah i thought what he had to do was match the top of the tattoo head and the angle, with the bottom of her hairline. Probably shave off a couple of inches of hair to make the design work. The judges really hate when someone deliberately avoids their challenge.
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I love how desperately Chris was throwing the team that did the crocodile tattoo under the bus. Especially when he was acting like a total rear end when the canvas was having a literal panic attack "Ya know AS A MARINE, seeing people act like this..it's pathetic" 
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Aug 12, 2015 03:38
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God I wanted that last challenge to go the other way so badly, this season just got a lot more boring.
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Aug 12, 2015 07:44
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The texture challenge was a great episode of competitive reality television. (tho I also think croc tat stunk) One thing this show needs is incentive to win the elimination tattoo. Cash prize, vacations, immunity... something.
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Aug 12, 2015 08:14
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St. Marq talks about himself in the third person; St. Marq freaks me out. Snake chick ended up with some really cool pieces and she sat like a freakin' rock. All around that was a pretty interesting episode. Kicked Throat posted:The texture challenge was a great episode of competitive reality television. (tho I also think croc tat stunk) I don't know about immunity but some incentive would actually be nice. Actually, I take that back; immunity could be an interesting tactic for some of the weaker artists to really step up their game. Is it just me or does Nunez seem completely over it? If he is, who would be an ideal judge to fill his place in the next season?
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Power of Pecota posted:God I wanted that last challenge to go the other way so badly, this season just got a lot more boring. For real, having the most entertaining contestant, who's actually one of the better artists on the season, go home, instead of one of the boring, no-chance-to-win people, sucks. I also hate that Marissa is improving, I'm dreading another Tatu Baby scenario.
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It annoyed me that the croc tattoos looked nothing like croc skin, and the "cheetah" print was leopard. They even showed on the judging two reference photos of a cheetah then a photo of leopard fur. Ugh. I'm an animal nerd, ignore me I guess
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Not Today Satan posted:Snake chick ended up with some really cool pieces and she sat like a freakin' rock. All around that was a pretty interesting episode. Tyler isreally growing on me, although it was kinda weird when he mentioned he owned hundreds of venomous snakes
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savinhill posted:For real, having the most entertaining contestant, who's actually one of the better artists on the season, go home, instead of one of the boring, no-chance-to-win people, sucks. I also hate that Marissa is improving, I'm dreading another Tatu Baby scenario. St. Marq was a decent artist but not well rounded enough to win this competition. He always did the same style and never really showed any variety. In the real world that's fine to be a specialist in one style, but this show is always looking for someone who can tattoo a variety of styles and adapt to new situations. St. Marq was the worst at that.
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Aug 13, 2015 01:03
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moerketid posted:It annoyed me that the croc tattoos looked nothing like croc skin, and the "cheetah" print was leopard. They even showed on the judging two reference photos of a cheetah then a photo of leopard fur. Ugh. I'm an animal nerd, ignore me I guess The croc tattoo bugged me too. The judges even defended it by saying it matched the reference but that's a lame excuse. If the drawing isn't clear on it's own what it's supposed to be, it's not a good drawing. I don't see how the judges could defend something like that. I don't know enough about cheetah spots to tell the difference from leopard but given the croc skin stuff I'm not that surprised to learn that they mixed that up too.
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Not Today Satan posted:Is it just me or does Nunez seem completely over it? If he is, who would be an ideal judge to fill his place in the next season? A piece of driftwood with a nametag I'm 2000% surprised that the judges didn't just say "WELP NO ELIMINATION THIS WEEK" to get out of having to eliminate people they want to be finalists
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Aug 13, 2015 05:58
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Wait, I don't get it. You people liked having St. Marque(sic) on your TVs? Because I didn't. He made me fast forward through every single upstairs couch segment and I'm loving glad he's not going to make my ears bleed anymore. He was far from the worst tattooist but goddrat. edit: that said, Chris was a giant douche this week as well. Still, quite less of a douche. A proper Ink Master douche, not a go-gently caress-yourself-with-a-dewalt-drill-style douche. Propaganda Machine fucked around with this message at 06:42 on Aug 13, 2015 |
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St.Mark is a good villain in that it's easy for everyone in the audience to hate him, but he's not a bad enough artist that it's extremely obvious producer manipulation that keeps him around. I'm kind of surprised they sent him home so early; I was expecting him to hang around till top 5 or so just for the drama. Speaking of being an interesting character on top of a good artist, Craig's gotten a lot sassier this time around. He was so quiet in season 3 you'd almost forget he was there until he popped up with a nice tattoo in judging; black and gray does seem like a pretty fundamental thing to not be able to do as a tattoo artists, but I can't help but think providing so little entertainment and drama for the producers was a big factor in what sank him. I don't know if he pieced it together for himself or a producer took him aside and explained that playing for the camera can be as important as putting out good tattoos when it comes to staying in the competition.
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Aug 13, 2015 08:37
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Had to be all of the above. No one could possibly have the time to rewatch a whole past season of Ink Master, but from what I recall there is no contestant who ever got as little camera time per episodes eligible as Craig in S3. He was basically a ghost and his elimination will likely remain the most laughably incompetent "judging" the show will have ever seen
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TheRationalRedditor posted:Had to be all of the above. No one could possibly have the time to rewatch a whole past season of Ink Master, but from what I recall there is no contestant who ever got as little camera time per episodes eligible as Craig in S3. He was basically a ghost and his elimination will likely remain the most laughably incompetent "judging" the show will have ever seen My vote for least screen time is Erik in this season. I even had to look his name up. Decent tattoos, but guy may as well be a ghost as far as the camera is concerned.
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moerketid posted:My vote for least screen time is Erik in this season. I even had to look his name up. Decent tattoos, but guy may as well be a ghost as far as the camera is concerned. Seems all the earlier episodes focus on the more dramatic and terrible people that get eliminated. It's always the people they don't show that last longer and/or win.
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moerketid posted:My vote for least screen time is Erik in this season. I even had to look his name up. Decent tattoos, but guy may as well be a ghost as far as the camera is concerned. Yeah, I always forget he's part of the competition until it's judging time. He's a solid artist for sure and I hope he makes it pretty far. I also didn't realize Melissa was his apprentice because sometimes I forget she's also on the show, too. I don't see her being another Tatu Baby, but I could be wrong. Someone else also mentioned Tyler, too. I didn't really notice him all that much until the Egyptian theme challenge went down and now I'm hoping he'll stay a bit longer, too. All around, just a better talent pool than previous seasons.
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Not Today Satan posted:All around, just a better talent pool than previous seasons. Which is another reason I'm glad Mark is gone. I understand the reality tv production value of an asshat, but I'd rather get more screentime on the cool poo poo everybody's been pulling off.
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moerketid posted:My vote for least screen time is Erik in this season. I even had to look his name up. Decent tattoos, but guy may as well be a ghost as far as the camera is concerned.
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Propaganda Machine posted:Which is another reason I'm glad Mark is gone. I understand the reality tv production value of an asshat, but I'd rather get more screentime on the cool poo poo everybody's been pulling off. Makes me wonder which one of the people left is going to become the next villain/general poo poo-stirrer. My money's on curly mustache or overalls.
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Mob posted:A piece of driftwood with a nametag It looked like they were really close to doing it, either Oliver or Chris considered it out loud and everyone who was safe flipped out. They probably had to cut to consult with a producer. I used to like Chris the most amongst the judges as his critiques used to seem the most legit, but the last couple seasons he's not even hiding that he's playing favorites with people that he probably knows. He doesn't want to be there anymore and I don't think he should be either. If Chris had his way Cleen would have won last season and that'd be bullshit when he didn't do the actual challenge for their final piece.
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there wolf posted:Makes me wonder which one of the people left is going to become the next villain/general poo poo-stirrer. My money's on curly mustache or overalls. Definitely overalls, and they even used this episode to set him up as and overconfident, self-righteous, bullheaded dick. I look forward to his level of melodramatic crybaby, especially since his work is quite nice.
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there wolf posted:Makes me wonder which one of the people left is going to become the next villain/general poo poo-stirrer. My money's on curly mustache or overalls. Overalls for sure. Curly mustache is way too timid to stir poo poo.
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Hey guys I really liked the first few seasons but it started to get really bad with all the focus on DRAMA. How is this season? No spoilers, please and thanks!
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The show has been uniformly stupid & bad all the way through, it's almost as thought you've not watched it before!
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Aug 17, 2015 22:29
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Every episode of this show is exactly the same except one time a bunch of babies told mom and dad that Josh was smoking weed
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Aug 18, 2015 19:54
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blue squares posted:Hey guys I really liked the first few seasons but it started to get really bad with all the focus on DRAMA. How is this season? No spoilers, please and thanks! So far I think it's trending back towards a decent balance between DRAMA, and actually showcasing talent. A lot of the contestants are pretty low-key and they don't seem to be keeping around anyone who is obviously not good enough just because they're a poo poo stirrer. Can I get a summery of what the problem with Tattoo Baby was? Is it something beyond just being sort of a moderate/mediocre talent that got really far because they are not loving sending home the fan choice until the very end? there wolf fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Aug 18, 2015 |
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Aug 18, 2015 21:37
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there wolf posted:Can I get a summery of what the problem with Tattoo Baby was? I didn't have a problem with Tatu Baby* but I do think she got pretty far on mediocre talent both seasons. I thought she was pretty attractive and with certain lawsuits levied against Pecker and Nunez from production staff I'm not against pointing some fingers at them to answer your question. *Just the same problem I have with every contestant which is when they're in the bottom they go into the "I'm here to win, I want to show you what I can do" spiel
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This is probably just years of Project Runway-grown cynicism talking, but I doubt any of the judges have much say in who goes or who stays. The producers pick who they want based on what narrative they're building. I have no doubt that Tatu Baby got kept on and ultimately brought back because she's attractive and camera friendly. I have no doubt she was kept on (and strangely coddled by the judges) because the producers are loath to get rid of someone picked by the audience; if people are invested enough into voting for her, then that means it's much more likely they'll tune in to see what happens to her, better keep her in the game as long as possible. As for the lawsuit...Chris Nunez has always come off as a prick, and Peck's not much better so I guess I'm not surprised.
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I think it's probably producers 49% say, Pecker/Nunez 49%, then Navarro have his two (per)cents if needed Guys I came up with that (per)cents joke just now, get me a TV pilot
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I feel like I can forgive a lovely tattoo but I really can't stand the artists who seem to view the people getting the tattoo with a weird sense of contempt. Like, okay they aren't sitting perfectly still, but Tyler flipping the guy off behind his back like a shithead when the guy had valid issues with his tattoo made me really want his rear end to go home. Big Ceez was easily the worst artist, but I REALLY wanted Tyler gone for his lovely attitude, the dude's been consistently below average too.
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I've worked on behind the scenes interviews for this show before, a lot of them, mostly from last season. They never confirmed if the winners and losers are scripted with cameras rolling but pretty much all the drama is written and fed to the contestants, most of them don't actually give a poo poo about whatever's loving with them in a given episode. Plus thanks to listening to hours of small talk I'm privy to poo poo like knowing who wants to gently caress midgets and who comes into the show thinking that reality TV isn't scripted then complains about having to follow script a, so that's cool.
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Shima Honnou posted:Plus thanks to listening to hours of small talk I'm privy to poo poo like knowing who wants to gently caress midgets and who comes into the show thinking that reality TV isn't scripted then complains about having to follow script a, so that's cool. Wow, tell us more! I had no idea there was a lawsuit going on against Peck and Nunez, but it doesn't surprise me at all.
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Not Today Satan posted:Wow, tell us more! A lot of it I've forgotten because I've done like a few thousand hours of other TV since the bulk of the stuff from Ink Master but I recall some of the more memorable things. One of the dudes from last season yelled at a cameraman or whatever for wearing a shirt that had the word "Boys" on it, saying it made him look gay like he fucks boys while wearing it. Another guy did an interview completely wasted to the point they eventually had to stop it because the answers he was giving were making less and less sense (And the producers purposefully got him drunk to loosen him up, as well, since he was otherwise shy and terse in his answers). When asked about if he actually felt how the producer was having him say he felt, one contestant said "No, I don't give a poo poo I barely know the guy." Wherever they record this poo poo is right near an airport so they had to constantly stop the interviews for a plane and one dude kept yelling "loving planes!" to which a cameraman would say "I know, right?" The mics they use must be pretty good because one dude got interrupted by his wife calling and I could hear everything she said through his cell phone quite clearly. This next one isn't mine but someone else who's worked with the show in the same capacity: the format requires that we get everything the interviewee says or does written down, which the producers apparently hate, and I can't loving blame them it's a pain in the rear end. Anyway, according to someone else, once a producer was bitching about having to go through all the extra pages made by the format and explaining it and our whole job to the interviewee who then said something along the lines of "Wait, there's someone out there right now writing down what I say and they have to get everything I say, no matter what it is?" Shima Honnou fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Aug 20, 2015 |
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OldTennisCourt posted:I feel like I can forgive a lovely tattoo but I really can't stand the artists who seem to view the people getting the tattoo with a weird sense of contempt. Like, okay they aren't sitting perfectly still, but Tyler flipping the guy off behind his back like a shithead when the guy had valid issues with his tattoo made me really want his rear end to go home. I bet he was trying to impress Marissa by doing that, which made Big Ceeze telling him to shut his mouth shortly after right in front of her all the funnier. Goddamn, I for real lolled when Nunez pointed out the ballsack on that face
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