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  Metal Gear Solid is a huuuuuge franchise owned by Konami. It's the pioneer of stealth games and it's also probably the pioneer of games being interactive movies. It's a very popular franchise that's generally heralded as one of the best video game franchises ever. The main games are fantastic, with some side titles that are a little more hit or miss. This September marks the release of the fifth title in the franchise, The Phantom Pain, which currently seems to be the final good Metal Gear game since Konami is currently imploding. The prologue to MGSV, Ground Zeroes, was released last year and it was absolutely amazing and I am super excited for the rest of the game, so I figured it'd be a good time to look back at the series' current high point, Snake Eater. MGS3 is the story of Naked Snake, who infiltrated Soviet Russia to extract a scientist developing a super-weapon certain to give Russia an edge in the Cold War. This is the earliest point of the Metal Gear timeline and was a prequel to the entire series when it was released and has since branched out to its own mini-series within the franchise, following Naked Snake, as opposed to the other titles that generally follow Solid Snake. Snake Eater, like I said, is almost universally agreed to be the best Metal Gear game. Following the confusing mess that is Metal Gear Solid 2, MGS3 brought the story back down to something sensible and not convoluted, by virtue of being a prequel and having a mostly blank slate to play with. MGS3 also refined the controls from MGS2, which were already a refinement of MGS1's controls, and allowed players more ways to sneak through maps or take out guards. Chief to this was the addition of CQC, or Close-Quarters Combat, which gave players more options for handling enemies.  I'll be doing cut/uncut co-commentary for this. Joining me is my partner-in-  No unmarked spoilers!I don't mind black bars, since this game's like 11 years old, but please be mindful of the few people who haven't played this game. It's great and deserves to be unspoiled. I'll try to make one update a week, but I make no guarantees since updates are going to be really dense. Now, without further ado, let's get this show on the road.                                                                                                    
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Jul 12, 2015 13:59
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I remember when this came out and I thought it was pretty poo poo because there only was a bird-view camera that just really doesn't work well with the level design of this game. Then Subsistence came along and fixed that. For a long time I thought this game was very very bad and I could not understand how people could think it's a good game simply because I hadn't played the Subsistence version until years after it came out. when I got the HD collection, in fact.
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Jul 12, 2015 14:48
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So the reason Ocelot killed those men is that they were KGB, while Ocelot is part of the extremist faction that was trying to capture Sokolov from the KGB.
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Jul 12, 2015 18:00
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Not sure when H.A.L.O. jumps became a thing, but 60s seems right. My father was trained in them when he was drafted for Vietnam.
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Jul 12, 2015 20:08
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Its too bad the HD version removed some of the features of Subsistence, the mini-games and secret theater were some of the best parts! Watching these makes me want to replay the series before MGS5 comes out, so soon yet so close.
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Jul 12, 2015 20:37
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They probably had to drop Ape Escape for legal reasons.
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Jul 12, 2015 20:43
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Tsar Bomba talk, for those who don't know about it. The peninsula/island I was talking about  And a website with the charts showing just how large the Tsar Bomba was, compared to other nuclear weapons. http://www.tsarbomba.org/Tsar-Bomba-Charts.html
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Jul 12, 2015 21:18
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What's the spoiler rule for talking about the other games in the series?
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Jul 13, 2015 06:48
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FillInTheBlank posted:What's the spoiler rule for talking about the other games in the series? If you can't directly relate it to plot we haven't seen in this game or if it'd spoil some mechanic in this game, don't talk about it. Aside from that, go nuts with discussion about how much nicer the controls got starting from MGS4 or whatever.
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SR-71 Blackbird, a plane so fast it didn't need to be stealthy. Wikipedia posted:The Lockheed SR-71 "Blackbird" is a long-range, Mach 3+ strategic reconnaissance aircraft that was operated by the United States Air Force. It was developed as a black project from the Lockheed A-12 reconnaissance aircraft in the 1960s by Lockheed and its Skunk Works division. Renowned American aerospace engineer Clarence "Kelly" Johnson was responsible for many of the design's innovative concepts. Sormus fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Jul 21, 2015 |
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Jul 21, 2015 00:45
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OP posted:MGS3 brought the story back down to something sensible and not convoluted, Ahahahahaha ahahahahahahahhahahahaha beeeeeeeeeeeees
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Jul 21, 2015 01:05
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How the hell did Boss know where Snake would be?
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Jul 21, 2015 01:21
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Mraagvpeine posted:How the hell did Boss know where Snake would be? Motherly instincts.
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Jul 21, 2015 01:30
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"I can just imagine someone walking around with nine barrels strapped to their chest."
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Jul 21, 2015 03:15
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DoubleNegative posted:"I can just imagine someone walking around with nine barrels strapped to their chest." I'm imagining all of these together on the same gun and I can't help but giggle at how absurd it is.
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Jul 21, 2015 03:41
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*zzz* "forward cocking serrations" *zzz* His reaction to the 1911 always leaves me laughing because a women has just unzipped in front of him and he is unphased, then she hands him a gun and he's just all 
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Jul 21, 2015 07:11
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Alan Shepard was the first American in space. So, it was likely being implied that his little rocket jet was going to go into space.
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Sormus posted:SR-71 Blackbird, a plane so fast it didn't need to be stealthy. Actually, I think the plane in the game is an Lockheed A-12, specifically the M-21 variant, which was a predecessor to the SR-71.  The plane was made to carry the Lockheed D-21 reconnaissance drone, which the rockety thing that they stuffed Snake into is probably meant to be. Here's a picture of the whole setup:  This has been your dumb milsperging for today.
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Cerebral Bore posted:Actually, I think the plane in the game is an Lockheed A-12, specifically the M-21 variant, which was a predecessor to the SR-71. Interesting stuff! And I hardly see this milsperging to be dumb 
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DoubleNegative posted:"I can just imagine someone walking around with nine barrels strapped to their chest." More than likely he doesn't have 9 suppressors in his pack. Older suppressors used disposable wipes in their design. They're thin discs made of felt or rubber, and your first round fired through it will punch a hole through it, and subsequent rounds will widen the hole, making its suppression less effective. The fix for this is to replace the wipes when they have too many rounds through them and your suppressor isn't as quiet as it started out. So he probably has 9 sets of suppressor wipes in his kit, since the body tube, baffles, and mounting hardware don't wear out.
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Wa11y posted:More than likely he doesn't have 9 suppressors in his pack. Older suppressors used disposable wipes in their design. They're thin discs made of felt or rubber, and your first round fired through it will punch a hole through it, and subsequent rounds will widen the hole, making its suppression less effective. The fix for this is to replace the wipes when they have too many rounds through them and your suppressor isn't as quiet as it started out. Don't some modern suppressors still work on this system though? Or do you mean older as in the design?
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Don't some modern suppressors still work on this system though? Or do you mean older as in the design? Older as in the design. You can still make them, if you wanted to, but I'm not aware* of any modern suppressor that use wipes. Most modern suppressors have a lot of fluid dynamics R&D put into them, and use designs with baffles that don't really have wear parts designed into them. *I can't honestly say I have an encyclopedic knowledge of every suppressor out there, so there might be someone still making older design suppressors with wipes.
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Ocelot keeps trying  Next fight, Ocelot is going to dress in a full beekeepers attire.
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It would be a pretty good running gag if Ocelot kept gearing up to fight the previous battle over and over again.
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The goat that you can shoot during the Ocelot boss duel is a markhor! Apparently Ocelot really likes them so that's why he gets particularly upset if you kill it. They live in/around Afghanistan, so maybe they'll come up in the Phantom Pain too.Wikipedia posted:The colloquial name is thought by some to be derived from the Persian word mar, meaning snake, and khor, meaning "eater", which is sometimes interpreted to either represent the species' ability to kill snakes, or as a reference to its corkscrewing horns, which are somewhat reminiscent of coiling snakes. I love how Ocelot basically goes "he found us, darn it!" when the hornet swarm arrives, like he's a little kid sneaking off to play cowboys with Snake before getting in trouble with his parents. Also re: Solid Snake's rank, he's a lieutenant...in Snake's Revenge 
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standard owl posted:The goat that you can shoot during the Ocelot boss duel is a markhor! Apparently Ocelot really likes them so that's why he gets particularly upset if you kill it. They live in/around Afghanistan, so maybe they'll come up in the Phantom Pain too. He isn't? Also, that snake eater goat trivia is really cool!
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You don't think those sparking fences are because of substandard Soviet building codes? Hell, shooting their junction boxes shorts out the entire fence. They weren't built with the american standards in mind 
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standard owl posted:The goat that you can shoot during the Ocelot boss duel is a markhor! Apparently Ocelot really likes them so that's why he gets particularly upset if you kill it. They live in/around Afghanistan, so maybe they'll come up in the Phantom Pain too. I knew the goat was a Markhor, but I didn't know Ocelot was fond of them! That's a pretty good detail! Ocelot is great.
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According to the director's commentary:Kojima posted:Aim for Ocelot's head, then shoot his beret hat to the ground, and he will go and pick up the hat in a hurry. Ocelot hates getting his hat dirty. Also, in the forest in the back is a markhor, because Ocelot likes markhors, if you shoot that markhor he will flip out. The commentary for MGS3 is essential reading  Although it is full of spoilers, even for the early bits of the game.
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Why am I hearing the Narrator from The Stanley Parable when Major starts running on about James Bond?
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Every interaction with Ocelot is just really awkward. It's probably the growl thing. It's not at all cool or intimidating.
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Jul 28, 2015 15:38
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But you can tell that Ocelot thinks it's the coolest poo poo. My favorite thing so far is the fact that Ocelot's man crush on Snake is really heating up at this point. He wants to impress Snake so bad with the gun and the juggling and the stupid little growl, but Snake just keeps slapping him down and making fun of him.
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Zain posted:Every interaction with Ocelot is just really awkward. It's probably the growl thing. It's not at all cool or intimidating. Every interaction with Ocelot is just really hilarious. Dude's such a tryhard and his dainty little yowl thing is funny as all hell.
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Tasteful Dickpic posted:But you can tell that Ocelot thinks it's the coolest poo poo. Yeah he's loving awesome in his own mind. That's why it's good but like you watch him and go... Dude no. Just stop you are embarrassing yourself.
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I see what you did at the beginning of 3-2, Argate. Shame on you
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ChaosArgate fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Aug 2, 2015 |
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