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AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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Pmom don't act like that's the only game we've played together though. I'm sure you've seen me play as both town and scum, right?

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AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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I am here and will be here

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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I assumed it was a weird flavor thing.

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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Ecco you are so scummy why are you voting me there is no case

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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TMMadman posted:

Segur wants to know if you dislike big cats?

No I like big cats!

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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Yuming is at -1 btw

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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I tried to think about it but I don't really know who's scummy right now and it's kinda close to deadline to be rereading the whole thread

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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Welp I don't really think yuming is scum but let's not no lynch. ##vote yuming

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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Well that's a lovely role to lose day 1

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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CCKeane posted:

My vote for today shall be on Narco, for her hammer was scummy, as was her content.

How the gently caress is it scummy to prevent a no lynch? I didn't vote her before then because I didn't think she was scum. And oh, look, I was right.

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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Whoa chill out guys. I guess I have to claim to not die today. I'm a town inventor. I have 4 items, and can give out 1 each day. I have to ask exakt something and then I'll give one out to whoever we think is towniest. Just give me a minute. Don't kill me.

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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QuoProQuid posted:

Uuugggghhhh.

##Vote: Narco


What?

This is a scummy vote. It's not like it's down to the wire and you need to hammer. There aren't even that many votes on me. You haven't expressed any opinion on me before and now you're just jumping on the bandwagon.

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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Keane what do you think of my alignment in light of my claim?

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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I don't see what use a scum inventor would be since if they gave items to scum buddies it would be really obvious. Shrug.

##bestow shield on merk

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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I have other items to give out too. And I think merk is def towny. He's been scum hunting at least and making pretty good cases.

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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merk posted:

I've seen Scum Inventors many times.

Oh ok. I haven't. But I haven't played nearly as many games.

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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CCKeane posted:

So what happened to Nacro, merk?

Please for the love of god stop calling me that

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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I didn't give merk the shield bc of his yuming case. I did it because he's one of the only people in this game actually casing people and scum hunting. I know I haven't done much of it either, but like I said the other day, I've been very busy so most of my posts are just responses to other people.

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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I guess you didn't actually read the post you quoted past the first 4 words

Ninja: past the first sentence

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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Wow I guess if I don't quote people I'm scum. Because it's really hard to go look at someone's post history.

Here are some good merk posts

merk posted:

OmegaGoo also irked me earlier today when he said the Yuming case was weak after the fact without analyzing how that statement advances scum hunting discussion today.

merk posted:

This post. If you thought it was a weak case where were you yesterday trying to get us to lynch someone else? What does the weak case say about alignment? How can you say QPQ made the scummiest vote and then not vote him?

This dude isn't scum hunting.

merk posted:

I think it is incredibly more scummy to play hindsight cop on the d1 lynch when you were here to actually persuade people to vote who you want to vote than anything Narc has done. I was really only voting Narc because I thought the post-me-going-to-bed stuff looked scummy, but I think what you, PinMom, and OmegaGoo are doing now is above that.

I swear if because of this post someone calls me scum for "town hunting" instead of scum hunting, I'm replacing out.

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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Murmur Twin posted:

I'm trying to put myself in ANarc's shoes here if I were asked that question. If I were town and telling the truth about my read on imgay, I feel almost certain I would have quoted his effortpost specifically and further explained why I felt the way I did.

ANarc's answer (which had me confused because after reading the exchange I still didn't know to what she was reffering) didn't have that vibe. She doesn't quote it, nor does she particularly seem to want to talk about it. The guarded feel I get from her response is that she was fabricating an opinion on imgay that she couldn't defend.

Mmt that is complete bullshit because as soon as I was asked about it, I posted the quote with my reasoning. Your case is completely made up bullshit lies

AnonymousNarcotics posted:


Pinterest Mom posted:

Please point out where imgay has tried to contribute, ty.

He made one actually decent post. Which isn't much but does refute my point of him hiding behind flavor posts.

imgay posted:

Having a good case when we have zero information really falls flat for me. Building up early rhetoric just seems to be a town thing for some people. Most games I've played usually at least one scum is seen to be accepted as town for these kind of dumb reasons

But tbh I'm used to imgay shitposting in every game and it's a null tell for me.

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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So mmt way to jump on a bandwagon with completely fabricated content. Scummy af

##vote mmt

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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Are we reading the same game? I never voted qpq. I can go look at his posts though and see if anything stands out

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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Why MMT is Scum: A Case By ANarc

On day 1, she made a fake case against keane to see what people's reactions would be. Not knowing the case was fake, some people agreed with the case, others immediately said she was scum, others (like me) said it was a bad case, but it was pro-town that she was scum hunting. Now it is clearer that fake content is all she can come up with.

Obviously I don't agree with people who think I'm scum, but at least I can understand how some of my posts may come off scummy to certain people. However, MMTs "reasons" to vote me are all completely made up. I'm not going to quote every single post because most of this exchange happened on this exakt page (24). Here's the post that started the argument. Notice bolded parts.

Murmur Twin posted:

AnonymousNarcotics posted:

Uh...yes. That's exactly what I was saying. Off the top of my head, merk and keane were the ones I was thinking of. I also was suspish of imgay and cpig for the same reasons but looking back, they seem to have actually tried to contribute recently
This was the post in question that PMom called out. Specifically, regarding whether or not imgay had, near that point, been trying harder than before. I went back a few pages and didn't see anything game-relevant.

Pinterest Mom posted:

Please point out where imgay has tried to contribute, ty

AnonymousNarcotics posted:

He made one actually decent post. Which isn't much but does refute my point of him hiding behind flavor posts

I'm trying to put myself in ANarc's shoes here if I were asked that question. If I were town and telling the truth about my read on imgay, I feel almost certain I would have quoted his effortpost specifically and further explained why I felt the way I did.

ANarc's answer (which had me confused because after reading the exchange I still didn't know to what she was reffering) didn't have that vibe. She doesn't quote it, nor does she particularly seem to want to talk about it. The guarded feel I get from her response is that she was fabricating an opinion on imgay that she couldn't defend.

##vote ANarc

Uh wow I just saw the item thing so I'm going to react to that in another post.

This stuff is just made up to make me look bad, and I bet she's hoping no one will go back and actually look. When I called her out on the lies, she said:

Murmur Twin posted:

I didn't see you refer to his post! My bad.

However, my post that she quoted earlier HAD the imgay quote in it. So it's not like she could have just accidentally missed seeing a post.

The next thing she says to try and frame me is

Murmur Twin posted:

What is your read on QPQ? You voted for him but never cased him.

This is actually the complete opposite of what happened. I called qpq out for making a scummy vote, but I never voted for him.

MMT is trying to fabricate content to make me look like scum because the people who aren't on the Vote ANarc Bandwagon yet know that there is no case.

Vote MMT for Truth and Justice

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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Yeah I do. Ecco was my other top pick but he hasn't been around much today. I also definitely see merk's case on goo. I'll have to take a closer look at him.

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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Murmur Twin posted:

This was your opinion when I first made the "case":


I never disputed that the Keane case was fake, nor did I try and keep up the illusion that that first case was scum-hunting. I find it suspicious that ANarc thought my posting was pro-town but then changed her mind when I started casing her.


My reasons for suspecting ANarc:

- I found ANarc's answer to PMom's case overly guarded :350:
- She declared Merk town, someone whose two main cases (yuming and Omega) have come at times when ANarc was under pressure
- The evolution of Merk's suspicion of ANarc into suspicion of Omega/PMom/CKeane feels like the play of a scumbro
- She voted for called QPQ "scummy" but showed no interest in following up on that hunch, which makes me think that opinion is fabricated
- She felt that my fake case on Keane seemed like scumhunting when I wasn't casing her, but decided it is scummy when I started casing her, which makes me think that opinion is fabricated


It's not like I haven't replied to your replies, I've been addressing them as they come. The first

point (that I thought you were guarded re: imgay) was because I didn't see you quote him in your answer. The second point (that you didn't vote QPQ) was simply me using the incorrect word and didn't change the actual point I was trying to make. If you think QPQ made a scummy vote, why not follow up on it?

You are still misrepresenting my words.

1. "I never disputed that the Keane case was fake, nor did I try and keep up the illusion that that first case was scum-hunting. I find it suspicious that ANarc thought my posting was pro-town but then changed her mind when I started casing her."

I never said your posting was pro-town and then changed my mind. I said the fact that you were scum hunting was pro-town. Based on your case on me today that is based on imaginary things, it leads me to believe you are faking content and not actually scum hunting.

2. "She declared Merk town, someone whose two main cases (yuming and Omega) have come at times when ANarc was under pressure"

Again, I deemed merk townie because he was actually casing people and scum hunting when no one else really was.

3. "The evolution of Merk's suspicion of ANarc into suspicion of Omega/PMom/CKeane feels like the play of a scumbro
"

I have no effect or control over merk. His votes and opinions are his own and it's unfair to say I'm scum because he isn't currently suspicious of me.

4. "She voted for called QPQ "scummy" but showed no interest in following up on that hunch, which makes me think that opinion is fabricated"

All I said was that he made a scummy vote. It wasn't necessarily a hunch. Does anyone else see why it's scummy? If they do, then it's not a fabricated opinion.

Your last bullet point I already addressed.

I really think you're scum just doubling down on this vote because I caught you out on your lovely tactics.

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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Re: why I did not give an item on day 1, I didn't want to make myself a target by claiming. Today I felt I didn't have a choice.

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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King Burgundy posted:

So you were potentially going to go the whole game without giving away items to not out yourself if you didn't have to? Or am I misunderstanding?

No I was just hoping to get a read on who seemed townie to make sure the items go to the right people. Although with the challenge thing, it is a bit of a crapshoot, but at least that person would have a good chance of ending up with it.

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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@Roy, that's kind of how Pig plays in every game and it's not indicative of his alignment. I'm leaning towards town on him though.

Regarding goo, I definitely could see him as scum. His first mass post had some seriously weird stuff in it, like declaring KB town for no reason and the logic that if someone seems scummy to him they are probably town because he's bad at reads. Also content lurking by asking questions of players that have no relation to alignment (like why did you want to win the challenge)

I'd vote him today


OmegaGoo posted:

Trying to keep 16 different people's posts straight has been rather difficult.

Opop is seeming scummy to me for the same reason as in WIFOA... which means he could be town. I know for a fact my scumdar needs work, so as of right now that's a null-leaning-town there.

MMT is doing that thing that promotes discussion. Regardless of alignment, that's a pro-town thing. Null-leaning-town there.

I want my question to Roy answered. Nothing yet there.

KingB is town.

Considering my track record on betting, this might not be saying much, but I'll bet that one of Pmom or Keane is scum. Nothing solid there yet, so no vote from me yet.

TMM, aside from the glory, why did you want to win the challenge?

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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Mmt, you're saying that everyone is "going along with the goo case" but I see at least 3 separate cases on this page alone. What do you think of goo after seeing these cases and reading him yourself?

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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Uh crap I had no idea deadline was this early.

##vote mmt

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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Ok good that we have more time to discuss. That was harrowing. I'm still down for a murmur lynch. Here's my case from earlier. Ugh I was gonna quote it but the nested quotes messed everything up so please just click through.

AnonymousNarcotics posted:

Why MMT is Scum: A Case By ANarc

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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I have rehearsal now and won't be able to be around. I'll try to check in before deadline but no guarantees.

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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Who wants an item today?

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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This merk thing is really weird

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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That does make more sense than merk's claim, except nothing happened to me last night so idk what item he could have used.

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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I know merk I was telling ecco why his theory didn't make sense to me. But your story is weird too. I've never seen a role like that but I wouldn't discount it.

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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Who do you all want me to give the item to? Last time it didn't go over well when I chose on my own.

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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Birdstrike posted:

Vote wise I am looking at merk and garth. Also AnonNarc's stalling over the inventing makes me suspicious she didn't just give the item she won in the challenge away.

I am also interested in both Ecco and PMom claiming to have been roleblocked. I can see why Ecco was as she won the sword, but I don't think PMom has claimed a role yet?

I'm not stalling, just waiting for town consensus on to whom to gift my item. Also afaik I can only give out the items I "invented"

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AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

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So we know merk visited mmt last night and birdstrike is a thief. Any other potential vig targets want to come forward?

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