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I was thinking about the Matrix, and how realistic it was/is. Everyone is familiar with the Matrix, so I don't have to explain what it's about, but basically the idea is that we're all brains in jars. How would any of us know? We wouldn't. It would be just like it is now. And, as the classic philosophical argument goes, since we're just like brains in jars, we literally are brains in jars. But magical machines keeping us in jars seems strange, but true. That's when my friend jokingly pointed out that the human centipede is more realistic than the Matrix. I think this was supposed to make me rethink my thoughts, but the fact is, he has a good point. The human centipede is more realistic because it doesn't involve robots and you can actually physically connect people. Now, if we apply logic, we see that if the Matrix is real (going by standard philosophy and modern logic research, the answer is yes - see above), and the human centipede is more realistic than the Matrix, then doesn't that mean the human centipede is real? But I've never seen a human centipede, so there's got to be something else here. What do you all think?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLh9M8XBSck
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Jul 17, 2015 04:10
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And strong, and my friend. e: you said you haven't seen a human centipede. but you also haven't seen a brain in a jar. You're assuming that just because something is a possibility that can't be disproven, it must be real. but that's a bad assumption, so you shouldn't assume that 'the matrix is literally real' in the first place. Rodatose fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Jul 17, 2015 |
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Jul 17, 2015 04:12
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They're actually human millipedes, but that's a common mistake.
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Jul 17, 2015 04:17
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Not since last Friday. They're really difficult to keep alive in captivity, as it turns out.
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Jul 17, 2015 04:18
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Rodatose posted:e: you said you haven't seen a human centipede. but you also haven't seen a brain in a jar. You're assuming that just because something is a possibility that can't be disproven, it must be real. but that's a bad assumption, so you shouldn't assume that 'the matrix is literally real' in the first place It's a sound argument by modern logic.
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Jul 17, 2015 04:22
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EB Nulshit posted:It's a sound argument by modern logic. it's not I mean our perceptions might actually be an extended dream, too, and we can't disprove that - so now inception and all other "you're in the dreamworld" stories are real by your logic. Yet we can't be simultaneously both things - perceiving things in an automatic dreamstate AND being subject to a designed program. Just as we can't also be actually perceiving a real material world with shared social interactions and commonly held perceptions while also in a dream-state or simulation. Only one material reality can exist in a universe, and you can only use one set of physical laws for your perception at a time. The way you perceive things, and whether or not that method of perception tells you if you are currently perceiving a material reality is another question. Rodatose fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Jul 17, 2015 |
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Jul 17, 2015 04:30
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Not being able to debunk the hypothesis of a thought experiment doesn't mean it's correct. that's not how the scientific process works. all it means is the theory is just "not definitively wrong yet"
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Jul 17, 2015 04:38
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The human centipede is real, and its name is capitalism.
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Jul 17, 2015 04:39
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I have always presumed that beings capable of processing sense data from additional dimensions would perceive us as being locked in grotesque, perpetual torture.
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Jul 17, 2015 04:41
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SedanChair posted:I have always presumed that beings capable of processing sense data from additional dimensions would perceive us as being locked in grotesque, perpetual torture. And they're right!
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Jul 17, 2015 04:42
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Rodatose posted:it's not
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Jul 17, 2015 04:43
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Fados posted:What if material reality isn't internally consistent with itself (something that quantum physics might indicate) therefore, in it's struggle for ideality, generating something more than pure materiality itself. This something more, could be the illusion, or dream where human social interactions exists. what if many things, friend, what if many things until you can introduce positive evidence, they remain what ifs and the best model we have to go on is of a physical reality that we can infer probabilities of things happening from past consistent observations. until that more pure reality makes itself known and its properties start to assert itself, why bother stocking up on survival supplies for any number of alternate universes one might have dreamt up Rodatose fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Jul 17, 2015 |
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Jul 17, 2015 04:50
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i'm actually, irl, a human centipede op.
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Jul 17, 2015 04:52
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EB Nulshit posted:I was thinking about the Matrix, and how realistic it was/is. Everyone is familiar with the Matrix, so I don't have to explain what it's about, but basically the idea is that we're all brains in jars. How would any of us know? We wouldn't. It would be just like it is now. And, as the classic philosophical argument goes, since we're just like brains in jars, we literally are brains in jars. like the Matrix it operates simultaneously on the symbolic and literal levels - just as society has us (metaphorically) sucking poo poo from the capitalist class, digesting it, and passing our refuse on to the underclasses at the behest of its insane visionary architects, so too as we strive towards ever greater interconnectivity between ourselves we will pass a point where we all become physically linked, rear end-to-mouth, one vast global human centipede. It depicts not just our present reality, but a future, historically inevitable one.
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Rodatose posted:what if many things, friend, what if many things But pure reality also encounters a big if in the subjective experience with all it's gaps, doubts, misunderstandings and failings of communication, maybe this is the evidence you need?
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Jul 17, 2015 04:57
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seriously to beings unencumbered by the linear progression of time, they go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gPVj-8JnGc "what are these odd fibrilating polyps clinging to the broad, undulating yet quiescent weave of spacetime? gross." "they pulsate with anguish"
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Jul 17, 2015 04:58
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Fados posted:But pure reality also encounters a big if in the subjective experience with all it's gaps, doubts, misunderstandings and failings of communication, maybe this is the evidence you need? That's if you're only thinking about "pure" reality. Have you ever considered that the truth might be somewhere in the middle?
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Fados posted:But pure reality also encounters a big if in the subjective experience with all it's gaps, doubts, misunderstandings and failings of communication, maybe this is the evidence you need? Doubt and skepticism is not positive evidence. it's negative evidence Besides, I think you're running into a problem of thinking "pure" or "real" is automatically what you should aim for. If this is the dream world, then your rules are dream rules which are what works here. until you wake up, you should stay using dream rules. the "reality" of something doesn't mean it's superior. all "dream perception" means is that it is the set of rules you perception is going by at the time. Maybe you perceive experiences through one set of laws consciously, and another subconsciously influences it (for instance, when you shudder in a dream from a draft of cold in physical reality), but both sets of perception are not consciously experienced at the same time. Rodatose fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Jul 17, 2015 |
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Jul 17, 2015 05:06
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Human Centipede is an analogy for the EU, German forces eveyone to eat their poo poo on pain of death
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Jul 17, 2015 05:09
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Imagine four butts on the edge of a mouth. Human Centipede is a bad movie.
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Jul 17, 2015 05:23
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isildur posted:Not since last Friday. They're really difficult to keep alive in captivity, as it turns out. http://www.nhregister.com/general-news/20150716/new-haven-police-find-2-arms-without-hands-2-legs 
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Jul 17, 2015 05:29
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Lote posted:http://www.nhregister.com/general-news/20150716/new-haven-police-find-2-arms-without-hands-2-legs You didn't close the trunk Johnny! poo poo now we gotta go pick alla these up.
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Jul 17, 2015 05:34
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Everything is true. God's an astronaut, Oz is over the rainbow, and D&D is where the monsters live.
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Jul 17, 2015 14:22
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yes, it is real, it came out in 2009, it had a sequel in 2011 and it will have another sequel this year
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Jul 17, 2015 17:59
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it must be real, a human centipede is the only way to explain the creation of this thread
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Jul 17, 2015 18:19
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I'm sure fetishists have done it. Maybe not the.. Whole medical process, but come on. You know they have.
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Jul 17, 2015 18:43
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Venomous posted:yes, it is real, it came out in 2009, it had a sequel in 2011 and it will have another sequel this year How do you make two sequels to a movie about sewing people rear end to mouth?
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Jul 18, 2015 02:35
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OwlFancier posted:How do you make two sequels to a movie about sewing people rear end to mouth? The second one was about somebody who saw the first and decided to do it himself.
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Jul 18, 2015 02:37
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OwlFancier posted:How do you make two sequels to a movie about sewing people rear end to mouth? Keep adding more people 2020 they'll release a sequel where every single citizen of New Jersey becomes a human centipede.
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Jul 18, 2015 02:38
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Yes it is real op that is where your mum and sisters went
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Jul 18, 2015 05:29
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I've never seen one so that means real human centipedes don't exist.
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Jul 18, 2015 22:26
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Fojar38 posted:Keep adding more people How would well tell the difference? [rimshot] [the sound of millions of people applauding me for my sweet burn]
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Ogmius815 posted:How would well tell the difference? [rimshot] [the sound of millions of people applauding me for my sweet burn] Because there will be one person in New Jersey who is not a poo poo-eating freak 
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Jul 19, 2015 00:42
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Yes: http://forums.somethingawful.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=1
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Jul 19, 2015 01:35
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Rodatose posted:why bother stocking up on survival supplies for any number of alternate universes one might have dreamt up Are you serious? Friend, you and your family are lucky you happened to post in this forum. This link has all the answers. https://www.lds.org/topics/food-storage?lang=eng Organize yourselves; prepare every needful thing, and establish a house, even a house of prayer, a house of fasting, a house of faith, a house of learning, a house of glory, a house of order, a house of God[.] D&C 109:8 edit: emphasis mine 
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Jul 19, 2015 09:24
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And that's why Mormonism is the most prudent and hence plausible faith!
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Jul 19, 2015 19:59
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It doesn't get more real than this.
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Jul 20, 2015 00:24
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why did she tattoo bacon on her chest
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I cannot imagine the damage that would do to her sex life given that I am not sure I could really maintain a boner being constantly reminded of the human centipede. Unless she is really into analingus in which case that is both irrelevant due to positioning and thematically appropriate.
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