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the last machine I built was amd. that was like 10 years ago.
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I said this before but couldn't find anything to back it up, does Intel need to divulge their shrinking processes, by law, to keep AMD competitive enough that they don't have an outright monopoly
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Jul 19, 2015 03:39
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no
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Jul 19, 2015 03:39
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the 9800pro was the best gpu ever creast.ed
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Jul 19, 2015 03:51
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it was actually the 9700 pro
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Jul 19, 2015 03:51
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pram posted:it was actually the 9700 pro no it was the one is aid, the 9800pro sorry
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Jul 19, 2015 03:52
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i still have on esomewhere. u can pry it from my cold deadhands.
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Jul 19, 2015 03:52
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no. NO. you imbecile. the R350 was just a derivative of the R300. the R300 is the chip that, for the first time in ATIs history really, completely kicked the poo poo out of nvidia and their garbage fx card. get the gently caress out of the forum if you dont know decade old gpu info intimately
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Jul 19, 2015 03:55
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pram posted:no. NO. you imbecile. the R350 was just a derivative of the R300. the R300 is the chip that, for the first time in ATIs history really, completely kicked the poo poo out of nvidia and their garbage fx card. get the gently caress out of the forum if you dont know decade old gpu info intimately the 9800pro was the faster card
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Jul 19, 2015 04:00
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lol the fx range drat intel and nvidia both poo poo the bed at that point in hsitory
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Jul 19, 2015 04:01
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you sicken me
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Jul 19, 2015 04:01
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i had a pci fx5200 at one point (no agp port on my emachine)_
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Jul 19, 2015 04:01
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pram posted:you sicken me i dont care that the 9700pro gcame first. i said 9800pro was the best. it was. it owned. the x19xx series was pretty good too actually
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Jul 19, 2015 04:02
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Valeyard posted:I said this before but couldn't find anything to back it up, does Intel need to divulge their shrinking processes, by law, to keep AMD competitive enough that they don't have an outright monopoly absolutely not, especially since amd sold off their actual chip manufacturing portion of the company years ago, because amd is dumb
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Jul 19, 2015 04:03
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Fair enough, I don't know where I picked that up from though
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Jul 19, 2015 04:06
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Nintendo Kid posted:absolutely not, especially since amd sold off their actual chip manufacturing portion of the company years ago, because amd is dumb it's like if chrysler sold off all their factories and rented time on the toyota factory or something
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Jul 19, 2015 04:14
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Jul 19, 2015 04:28
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Thankfully I won't be affected by this as I exclusively buy VIA.
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Jul 19, 2015 04:38
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Cores are the new ghz.
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Jul 19, 2015 04:38
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SYSV Fanfic posted:Cores are the new ghz. ya Intel is on that poo poo now too
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Jul 19, 2015 05:17
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Nintendo Kid posted:absolutely not, especially since amd sold off their actual chip manufacturing portion of the company years ago, because amd is dumb well they were desperate for cash and selling the office furniture as firewood wouldn't have been enough also the radeon 9500 (non-pro) was ironically the most pro card, just a driver mod needed to double your ROP count and bam you got some r300 goodness. also a monopoly doesn't matter, show me anywhere that the DOJ has rattled sabres about "we are concerned about x86 market competitiveness".
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Jul 19, 2015 06:34
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Jul 19, 2015 08:06
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my amd fx suits my needs still but i wouldn't recommend it to anyone
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Jul 19, 2015 08:33
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my imac has an intel processor hth
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Jul 19, 2015 08:40
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PowerPC
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Jul 19, 2015 08:41
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HTH. HAND.
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Jul 19, 2015 08:49
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one butan
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Jul 19, 2015 10:23
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Valeyard posted:I said this before but couldn't find anything to back it up, does Intel need to divulge their shrinking processes, by law, to keep AMD competitive enough that they don't have an outright monopoly
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Jul 19, 2015 10:51
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Bonfire Lit posted:no you're allowed to have a monopoly, you're just not allowed to abuse it (also I'm fairly sure "x86 processors" isn't a market, but "processors" in general is) qft
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Jul 19, 2015 11:31
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i liked my barton 2800+ but man it felt like putting the heatsink on was going to destroy the motherboard
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Jul 19, 2015 11:37
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Citizen Tayne posted:A Massive Disaster
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Jul 19, 2015 12:09
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all of my graphics cards have been ati/amd and even though i've never really had any problems with them i'm still not going to buy another one
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Jul 19, 2015 13:47
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Sweevo posted:all of my graphics cards have been ati/amd and even though i've never really had any problems with them i'm still not going to buy another one same although i had an MX440 at one point
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Jul 19, 2015 13:48
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Bonfire Lit posted:no you're allowed to have a monopoly, you're just not allowed to abuse it (also I'm fairly sure "x86 processors" isn't a market, but "processors" in general is) intel has 92% market share unit prices have risen by 50% since 2007 it's impossible for anyone but amd or ibm to compete due to patent issues. amd is insolvent and ibm had to pay someone to take their semiconductor business off their hands. Notorious b.s.d. fucked around with this message at 14:01 on Jul 19, 2015 |
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Jul 19, 2015 13:58
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:the last time amd was OK computers were still really annoying to build and would have lots of dumb problems esp if you were an idiot like me. this was an amd-specific issue amd was, for some reason, terribly afraid of making their own chipsets. they very much preferred for third parties to do it, to the point where they would stop manufacturing their in-house chipsets after one or two third parties became available. surprise surprise, third parties were loving terrible at it, so nothing ever loving worked meanwhile in intel land, like 99% of units shipped used intel-designed chipsets
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Jul 19, 2015 14:00
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:unit prices have risen by 50% since 2007 Notorious b.s.d. posted:amd is insolvent and ibm had to pay someone to take their semiconductor business off their hands. it's like they decided in 2003 that since they've invented the x64 architecture they could just roll around in the money for eternity w/o doing any more significant development. I mean they haven't made a single good processor since intel released the core series. also Notorious b.s.d. posted:amd was, for some reason, terribly afraid of making their own chipsets. so nothing ever loving worked basically, amd had a flash of inspiration in the early 2000s and then shipped turd after turd ever since
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Jul 19, 2015 14:55
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Bonfire Lit posted:a flash of inspiration in the early 2000s and then shipped turd after turd ever since
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Jul 19, 2015 14:55
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Buying an amd based laptop pretty much guarantees chip set failure
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Jul 19, 2015 15:16
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I don't really mind the AMD in my laptop. It runs hot as hell but it suits my needs 
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Jul 19, 2015 15:18
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:also: cars actually are marketed based on the engine. Intel had plenty of programs like Retail Edge, etc. that were to educate the retail stores about why Intel chips were better... but no one cares. Intel is an ingredient brand and no one really cares about processors in their commodity general-purpose PC. Those who do aren't going to be swayed by some dope in a blue polo, they've already made up their minds. Just as CPU was an ingredient that only mattered to enthusiasts, the GPUs have been "good enough" for a while now and Nvidia is happy to seek growth in providing a hojillion CUDA-enabled chips to feed ~deep learning neural nets~ on ~the cloud~.
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