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http://store.steampowered.com/app/318020/ Will it be good?
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THE PENETRATOR posted:http://store.steampowered.com/app/318020/ I keep seeing people in Games saying its way worse than the game before it and is totally uninspired, but I haven't played it myself yet so I'd go ahead and take that with a bag of salt.
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Jul 19, 2015 17:07
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it's not a new Red Alert 2 expansion so probably not
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Jul 19, 2015 17:12
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Daikatana Ritsu posted:it's not a new Red Alert 2 expansion so probably not
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Jul 19, 2015 17:55
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did anyone else play Netstorm: Islands at war? I thought it had really cool lore and the way you sacrifice the other guy's priest to win a match was so 
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Jul 19, 2015 18:03
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It will be worse than SC2; the Metal Gear Solid of the RTS genre
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Jul 19, 2015 18:10
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#real talk the most important thing for an RTS is that all the factions are balanced for multiplayer. Extra props for making each faction have a distinct play style. The main reason that grey goo game died so quickly was because the factions were terribly balanced. Not only was the goo faction objectively the strongest, but they also had mechanics that made them the easiest to play and super annoying to play against. StarCraft 2: it's good
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Jul 19, 2015 18:14
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RTS games are cool when they're about building neat bases and sending armies out to attack enemy armies/bases instead of obsessively memorizing sequences to micromanage everything for maximum possible efficiency like some kind of robot
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Jul 19, 2015 19:08
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Lumpy the Cook posted:RTS games are cool when they're about building neat bases and sending armies out to attack enemy armies/bases instead of obsessively memorizing sequences to micromanage everything for maximum possible efficiency like some kind of robot but enough about my dating scheme
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Jul 19, 2015 19:15
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No.
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Jul 19, 2015 19:17
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Daikatana Ritsu posted:it's not a new Red Alert 2 expansion so probably not This.
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Jul 19, 2015 19:17
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Lumpy the Cook posted:RTS games are cool when they're about building neat bases and sending armies out to attack enemy armies/bases instead of obsessively memorizing sequences to micromanage everything for maximum possible efficiency like some kind of robot This
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Jul 19, 2015 19:49
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I would like a Warcraft 4.
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Jul 19, 2015 19:53
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anyone else ever play the kohan games  instead of bases you had cities that you upgraded with different buildings. in kohan 1 they were just sprites, but in kohan 2 they had perimeter walls and internal structures that troops could maneuver through. you recruited units in regiments with front, flank and two specialist slots. you could do mixed units of archers and swordsmen, spears and cavalry, whatever, and if you had the right structures you could add fancy troops like wizards and priests to the specialist slots. there were also heroes you could put in charge of individual units who would fight and cast spells alongside the troops. it was cool, but is now an incredibly dead franchise
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Jul 19, 2015 19:58
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zeal posted:anyone else ever play the kohan games yeah i had K2:KoW and it was probably my favorite fantasy base building rts. very cool systems. no one ever played with me though because it wasn't a blizzard game.
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Jul 19, 2015 20:12
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Real hurthling! posted:no one ever played with me though because it wasn't a blizzard game. *RTS Life*
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Jul 19, 2015 20:16
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lol they went from an actually interesting milsim-ish rts to generic build base smash blobs. good job kids
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Jul 19, 2015 20:28
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El Wombato posted:lol they went from an actually interesting milsim-ish rts to generic build base smash blobs. good job kids I've seen a little bit of the game on twitch and it seems like it is basically just a newer Command Conquer: Generals yes?
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Jul 19, 2015 20:32
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Real hurthling! posted:yeah i had K2:KoW and it was probably my favorite fantasy base building rts. very cool systems. no one ever played with me though because it wasn't a blizzard game. i dusted it off again just recently. even simple 5 player ffas with computer opponents spiral into huge multi-division wars, it's great.
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Jul 19, 2015 20:32
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Chomp8645 posted:I've seen a little bit of the game on twitch and it seems like it is basically just a newer Command Conquer: Generals yes? It's a lot less thought out than generals. They fixed a few of the worst things but they decided to throw every good thing they did with wargame/ruse in the trash to make this and even at it's best i can't recommend it. Imagine generals with less well thought out mechanics and no personality and you get act of aggression. Look man we need 12 different vehicles that mulch infantry in virtually identical ways.
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Jul 19, 2015 20:41
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Panzeh posted:Look man we need 12 different vehicles that mulch infantry in virtually identical ways. I don't know, I mean if infantry get so thoroughly owned by everything that nobody ever makes them and just roll tanks errday then it sounds a lot like Generals.
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Jul 19, 2015 20:46
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Panzeh posted:It's a lot less thought out than generals. is there any chance of it being salvaged before it gets officially released or would it be too much of a rewrite
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Jul 19, 2015 21:07
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zeal posted:anyone else ever play the kohan games drat, I played the poo poo out of this game. Then I started playing wow or whatever MMO was out at that time and I forgot about it I loved the tactical and customization aspects of it, haven't really seen much like that since then, at least not done as well. Too bad migth have to download this game again
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Jul 19, 2015 21:15
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zeal posted:anyone else ever play the kohan games You don't mess with the kohan!!! Lol
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Jul 19, 2015 21:15
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Pewdiepie posted:You don't mess with the kohan!!! Lol you should stream it e: kohan 2 is $10 on steam if anyone wants to try it 1994 Toyota Celica fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Jul 19, 2015 |
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Jul 19, 2015 22:19
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StashAugustine posted:is there any chance of it being salvaged before it gets officially released or would it be too much of a rewrite It'd be too much of a rewrite. It might be ruse good if they actually made the game UI more user friendly and allowed zooming out and such but they're going for that pro starcraft UI experience and they don't have the game to back it up so it's going to sink hard. Honestly if you really want to play a conventional rts by eugen, play ruse. It's not that great but that's what it is. I was hoping for a less spergy better designed wargame airland battle and i got a very bland, dumb attempt to make another act of war but even worse.
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Jul 19, 2015 22:21
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zeal posted:you should stream it There's an axis and allies RTS that's a lot like kohan but even more hilarious because it's ww2. The best thing is that it trolled the poo poo out of axis and allies players.
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Jul 19, 2015 22:24
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Daikatana Ritsu posted:it's not a new Red Alert 2 expansion so probably not Agreed
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Jul 19, 2015 22:44
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Lumpy the Cook posted:RTS games are cool when they're about building neat bases and sending armies out to attack enemy armies/bases instead of obsessively memorizing sequences to micromanage everything for maximum possible efficiency like some kind of robot
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Jul 19, 2015 23:03
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Jul 19, 2015 23:06
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myth is the best rts series imo. base building makes matches very samey feeling. in myth (and also ground control but nobody played that besides me afaik) you drop in with your chosen roster of troops and get into the nittygritty tactics
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Jul 20, 2015 00:47
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Real hurthling! posted:myth is the best rts series imo. base building makes matches very samey feeling. in myth (and also ground control but nobody played that besides me afaik) you drop in with your chosen roster of troops and get into the nittygritty tactics didn't dawn of war do that in a few missions at least? I never finished it
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Jerkops posted:didn't dawn of war do that dawn of war and the rad world war 2 one with the real grand dad sounding name that had the capture points were great compromises between the various sub genres of rts games. there was lots of resource and infrastructure management but also tons of squad management. i really liked them. myth the fallen lords and myth II soulblighter smoke them so hard though because its just you and your clutch of wiggling voxel bravehearts vs the world and then you go online and play dwarven golf Real hurthling! fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Jul 20, 2015 |
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Jul 20, 2015 01:52
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Real hurthling! posted:its just you and your clutch of bravehearts vs the world and then you go online and play dwarven golf Possibly the best description of the Myth games I've ever heard.
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Jul 20, 2015 01:55
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Panzeh posted:It'd be too much of a rewrite. It might be ruse good if they actually made the game UI more user friendly and allowed zooming out and such but they're going for that pro starcraft UI experience and they don't have the game to back it up so it's going to sink hard. Why do game devs think people like starcraft for the UI. Nobody likes the starcraft UI. Nobody has ever liked the starcraft UI. Why not copy the tight faction balance and not the lovely bad parts of starcraft.
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Jul 20, 2015 02:06
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Larry Parrish posted:Why do game devs think people like starcraft for the UI. Nobody likes the starcraft UI. Nobody has ever liked the starcraft UI. Why not copy the tight faction balance and not the lovely bad parts of starcraft. how many units did the sequel allow control of at a time?
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Jul 20, 2015 02:16
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Real hurthling! posted:how many units did the sequel allow control of at a time? Infinite, but it still has zero camera zoom at all. They made units able to clip into each other to fix pathfinding being worthless and that made people made though, lol.
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Jul 20, 2015 02:23
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C&C: Wanna build? Just click this icon on the side bar at any time. Don't worry about affording it, you pay as it gets completed. Warcraft 1&2: Click this peasant. Now invest all the gold needed for what he's building immediately. Cancelling doesn't get it all back. Tiberian Sun: You need to keep training troops and building tanks while you coordinate a fight? Sure, just queue up a bunch of soldiers, worry about funding on a per-unit basis when that happens. Starcraft: Click this building. Now pay for two units and keep that building on a quick-select key because you're going back there as soon as the first one's finished to queue up one more. I don't care that that's how you did in Red Alert, just do it. Red Alert 2: You can literally fill the entire screen up with 16x16 pixel conscripts and select every single one at the same time. Hell here, have a key that just selects everything of the same type on the screen, and double tap it to select every single one you've deployed. Warcraft 3: 12 units in a squad. That's all you'll ever need, right? Why do people like Blizzard games again?
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Jul 20, 2015 02:37
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Great Joe posted:
To be fair you don't want to see the pathfinding that warcraft would have come up with if you could ask as many of their giant sprites as you wanted to move through the same path.
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Great Joe posted:C&C: Wanna build? Just click this icon on the side bar at any time. Don't worry about affording it, you pay as it gets completed. so long as you play against friends and not Korean cyborg supermen it's real fun to send 200 zerglings against a dozen siege tanks and not worry about whether every click is a perfectly optimal use of that nanosecond.
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