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Isn't there a RCT1 scenario that you can win literally without doing anything? Or maybe just raise or lower the prices a bit or something? I seem to remember that vaguely.
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Taeke posted:Isn't there a RCT1 scenario that you can win literally without doing anything? Or maybe just raise or lower the prices a bit or something? I seem to remember that vaguely. More than a handful of RCT2 scenarios were that simple.
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Nov 26, 2019 22:32
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Taeke posted:Isn't there a RCT1 scenario that you can win literally without doing anything? Or maybe just raise or lower the prices a bit or something? I seem to remember that vaguely. That was RCT2 with sherwood forest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz-tUHEDNHI
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RBA Starblade posted:This is the one thing about RCT Classic that sucks You know, with some of the creative scenarios they made I'm surprised that I cant remember any that actually took advantage of that. A park where you started out meeting the objectives but rapidly deteriorated without action would be fun. The closest they got was parks full of old/broken stuff.
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Nov 26, 2019 23:52
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Blackpool Pleasure Beach started you off in a semi-precarious position but it didn't seem purposefully designed to play out as a survival map.
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Control Volume posted:That was RCT2 with sherwood forest That's the one I was remembering, yeah. God, I just can't watch Marcel's videos. Like, his videos are fine and I like what he does and all that and his English is really solid, except for that accent. As a fellow Dutch person that used to teach some English and studied English and phonology and stuff at uni, it's just grating to hear his incredibly thick Dutch accent permeate every. single. word. I'm very much aware that that's totally on me though, because like I said aside from his pronunciation there's no complaints. A shame because I know I'm missing great content.
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buglord posted:Blackpool Pleasure Beach started you off in a semi-precarious position but it didn't seem purposefully designed to play out as a survival map. That was my favorite level, it was fun having a full massive park to maintain and actually operate
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Taeke posted:That's the one I was remembering, yeah. I'm Dutch as well and his accent gets under my skin as well, he deffo knows what is up and can't help it but JFC even I get annoyed by how thick it is.
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Nov 27, 2019 23:21
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Necro to say that I just picked up parkitect and it is a good, cool game. I was never one to do much decorating in rct, so the way the game mechanically encourages it so much is super fun.
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marcel is a cool guy and im glad all of his coaster science led to the channel
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FoolyCharged posted:Necro to say that I just picked up parkitect and it is a good, cool game. I was never one to do much decorating in rct, so the way the game mechanically encourages it so much is super fun. my only issue with parkitect is it overvalues decorating and also doing everything by hand from what amounts to lego pieces I wish there were more preset items of various sizes and stuff like pre-made walls and the like, so I could make a castle without painstakingly cobbling together five pieces at different heights per square and etc. (there is also 0 information on anything but oh well)
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It and Planet Coaster both. I don’t have much creativity but I love management games. Making a park that looks okish is near impossible In those games if you don’t want to spend 80% of your time landscaping/styling buildings. Planet Coasters the worst offender though.
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Planet Coaster is way worse about it because at its core, Parkitect still focuses more on the park management aspect. Planet Coaster is -all- about building a pretty park. People put prebuilt scenery on the Steam workshop, and it looks like there's some prebuilt walls too if you do a bit of digging. I personally just rely on hedge fences and super simple flat walls because I'm lazy but mostly focusing on hiding the worker paths seems to work well enough.
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You can also sneeze components onto flat walls in Parkitect and it looks good
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Parkitect is more along the lines of a game over Planet Coaster. Planet Coaster is more of a wide open sandbox where you can place anything you want and spend hours making the perfect little theme for your merry go round making sure it's absolutely perfect. A single rock in the queue out of place will make you upset. In Parkitect people will still ride the merry go round if it's not decorated. It's more that if you show your entire supply management and have workers carrying boxes all around the place where people can see them they might get upset at seeing people that toss them out of their fantasy but it's easy enough to hide the supply chain behind walls and the such. For me, Planet Coaster just isn't "fun". The campaign is lackluster and I prefer having a goal to work towards. Challenge mode is just too difficult. Parkitect on the other hand every single level has a goal for me to work towards and even if I don't want unlimited money to build whatever I find it more satifying to start from an empty lot with the restrictions of growing slowly rather than making the huge park that I can put whatever I want in.
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This thread may be mostly dead but Roth has a new RCT LP going! https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3919627&pagenumber=1&perpage=40
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OpenRCT now has javascript plugin support!quote:Feature: [#11320] Support for custom JavaScript plugins.
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RCT3 is getting a rerelease this month! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfiK_ZUPyfI
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Harminoff posted:RCT3 is getting a rerelease this month! Niiiiice. Really fond of it.
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Fun. Looks like it's a simple update to run on modern systems with no graphical changes or the like. Parkitect just dropped some dlc. No scenarios, so I gave it a pass but overwhelmingly positive reviews from the people who got it.
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It's releasing on Switch apparently which I guess is cool. I just got one so maybe one of the best roller coaster games is a good choice.
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Harminoff posted:RCT3 is getting a rerelease this month! Looks like this will be free on Epic next week!
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Harminoff posted:Looks like this will be free on Epic next week! Now, in fact, ending Oct 1st at 9AM MDT.
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Parkitect just announced a big patch for early December featuring multiplayer. Sounds pretty rad.
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OpenRCT 2 is going to be rolling out some updates to the games limits... Currently in a beta build. Will increase park size from 256x256 to 999x999. And will increase the max items in the scenario editor so you will be able to use all the ride and scenery in the base game & expansions. Also increases the sprite limits so you can have 50,000 guests in your park and give your high end gaming PC 5fps.
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I look forward to the monstrosities people will build in those giant parks.
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It's just going to be more clickbait park-sized hedge mazes.
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I was watching a review for Park Beyond, and it hit me: I don't want to make carnivals and Six Flags any more. I'm sick of it. It's nice that the genre's been (somewhat) reinvigorated, but we're still smack dab in the mold that RCT1 laid down. Linear paths, prefab rides, rollercoasters as the big draws and the only way to be at all creative, blah blah blah, enough already. Let me make massive lands, and dark rides, and parades, and shows, and fireworks. Challenge me with queue management where I've got to theme the queues to keep guests happy and balance if, and how, I'm going to introduce a line-cutting option. Penalize me if I don't hide the ride buildings from guest sight. Give me guests who want recognizable landmarks to take their picture in front of. Make me make all my money at the gate and from concessions and souvenirs. I want to make a theme park.
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Parkitect at least attempt to do some of that. Hiding services, queue theming (but anything worked), but ultimately it was still just iterated on RCT.
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Parkitect at least attempt to do some of that. Hiding services, queue theming (but anything worked), but ultimately it was still just iterated on RCT. Which is all I wanted it to be. Don't get me wrong, I'd love a fun new take on the genre but everything other than Parkitect has been a huge let down.
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that sounds like a whole lot of something-other-then-making-a-roller-coaster which is the only thing people buy these games for
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I think a lot of buy these for the sim/management aspect actually. I'm not interested in a diorama builder personally.
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CapnAndy posted:I was watching a review for Park Beyond, and it hit me: I don't want to make carnivals and Six Flags any more. I'm sick of it. It's nice that the genre's been (somewhat) reinvigorated, but we're still smack dab in the mold that RCT1 laid down. Linear paths, prefab rides, rollercoasters as the big draws and the only way to be at all creative, blah blah blah, enough already. This sounds a lot like Planet Coaster.
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There's some coaster game that I can't recall the name of that tasked you with making coasters that resulted in hurling the cars through the air into smashable targets. *checks wikipedia* Ah ha, Screamride. I was basically conflating the three modes of play together. I played the demo once and never again, but it was more of a puzzle game where a coaster was the solution than a management sim. A nice idea, but still thoroughly within genre.
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I remember when I was a kid, standing in Babbage’s with a copy of the PC game Coaster in one hand, and a copy of Theme Park in the other. Both games let you design rollercoasters, however only Coaster let you ride them in first person view, which was mind-blowing at the time. On the other hand, Theme Park let you design and manage entire parks which also sounded awesome. I ended up going with Coaster, which, lol, totally the wrong choice. Still had fun with it anyway
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Fall Dog posted:This sounds a lot like Planet Coaster.
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The problem with a game mechanically tracking things like themed lands is that you put a focus on the artistic design and handicap artistic design to the confines of your designated theme's pieces in the same move. It's why pretty much every coaster game rewards generalized scenery for coasters and not consistent theming. The big problem with coaster games not rewarding themed lands and the like is that scenery is almost always expensive as hell and it's not feasible to full on decorate everything outside of a sandbox mode. Parkitect is probably the closest so far, because while it's expensive the game rewards scenery handsomely(huge ride stat boosts -> greatly increased ride income) while penalizing a lack of it when guests start seeing your back areas.
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If you look at Planet Coaster theming videos, a lot of the really creative theming essentially involves kitbashing the given parts together to create entirely new ones. The themes you can create solely by plopping the pieces the developer gives in the obvious way are very limited compared to what you can do with kitbashing. But at the same time, there's a reason people are playing a rollercoaster videogame instead of opening up Blender and modelling a rollercoaster - if you make your theming system so complicated that people can't just plop down some premade assets to get started, nobody's really going to be interested.
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In my head, it'd work something like you'd tag each land with a theme and then there'd be a poo poo-ton of premade assets to plop down in every theme and a bunch more generic ones, so your guests will balk if they see an animatronic dragon in Sci-Fi Land, but you could easily make them a dark ride where they go through and see space soldiers shooting at robots right out of the box.
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CapnAndy posted:In my head, it'd work something like you'd tag each land with a theme and then there'd be a poo poo-ton of premade assets to plop down in every theme and a bunch more generic ones, so your guests will balk if they see an animatronic dragon in Sci-Fi Land, but you could easily make them a dark ride where they go through and see space soldiers shooting at robots right out of the box. But your very example highlights the problem with your idea: a ride themed around spacemen fighting alien dragons on the moon sounds awesome, and yet the game would penalize you for it because "dragons aren't scifi" even though the ride itself has a perfectly solid scifi theme. And that's before getting into how a lot of custom buildings repurpose building pieces into unorthodox uses(while still in theme) outside their intended theme/use, especially if the game let's you recolor the pieces (i.e. in parkitect, a lot of the castle walls can be repurposed for general masonry and ditto on the western ones for wooden structures. This system would lead to parks feeling very samey very fast. As much as I agree it would be cool to have zoning mechanics of some kind, it's tough to figure out a system that doesn't actively fight itself. I think your idea might work if you made a game more inspired by Sim city where you flag a zone as whatever theme and the game generates the appropriate structures, but that would likely have to give up the designing rides part of the equation to work, so it's a pretty steep price.
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