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Way2slow
Sep 14, 2007

Not a Miata!
So it's been awhile, new job, long commutes, no time, blah blah blah adult crap.

Sadly, the guy doing the paint took advantage of me not having time to show up, and amongst the drama with the chrome (long story, if you really want to know, ask), it looked like it was never going to be completed.
However, I'm now looking at getting it back next week, as the chrome is actually going on the car at this point.





Apologies for not pulling up the old thread, it's in archives, and I can't resurrect it.

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the spyder
Feb 18, 2011
Chrome story = wtf happened? How has it taken this long?

Way2slow
Sep 14, 2007

Not a Miata!

the spyder posted:

Chrome story = wtf happened? How has it taken this long?

Guy A= Body Shop Owner
Guy B= "Chrome Guy"
Guy C= Real Chrome Guy

Guy A recommends Guy B for chrome. I use Guy B for Chrome. All the chrome is removed, and handed off to Guy B. I pay Guy B based off of invoice for Chrome work. He estimates several weeks. Time comes that chrome is needed to re-assemble on car. I talk with Guy B, he keeps saying it'll be there in two days, blah blah.
After several missed deadlines, I get tired of the crap, and begin to do digging. Discover that Guy B doesn't do the chrome, but is instead taking it to Guy C. Talk to Guy C, who says he won't release the chrome because he hasn't been paid. Talk to Guy B, and then he starts dodging calls, moved his shop, all the standard shady poo poo.
Do more digging, find out where Guy B lives, find out where his new shop is, etc.
Confront Guy B. Money is gone basically. Talk back with Guy A, explain what has happened, and he says it's his friend, he'll handle it.
He doesn't appear to be handling it.
Decide to skip the BS, and pay Guy C to release chrome to continue job. As I am getting in contact with Guy C, and telling Guy A what has happened, explain frustrations, and that I'm just going to sue Guy B, suddenly he decides he'll actually handle it.
Guy A ends up paying Guy C, and chrome is finally acquired.

That's the short of it.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
drat! Why are chroming guys always so unreliable?

Terrible Robot
Jul 2, 2010

FRIED CHICKEN
Slippery Tilde

Seat Safety Switch posted:

drat! Why are chroming guys always so unreliable?

All the fumes :v:

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Seat Safety Switch posted:

drat! Why are chroming guys always so unreliable?

Too busy racing around the desert searching for their leader's harem

Sormus
Jul 24, 2007

PREVENT SPACE-AIDS
sanitize your lovebot
between users :roboluv:
You will ride eternal, shiny and chrome.

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

Terrible Robot posted:

All the fumes :v:

Seriously, let's not overlook this. Heavy metals poisoning turns you into a huge rear end in a top hat, from what I can tell.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Good news about getting it back finally, sucks about the shady poo poo though jesus.

Can't wait to see some high res pics once you get it back!

T-Square
May 14, 2009

I feel like a more than an acceptable amount of people just on this forum wind up getting the run around from various parts suppliers/tradesmen/etc. when they're trying to finish a project.

Way2slow
Sep 14, 2007

Not a Miata!

T-Square posted:

I feel like a more than an acceptable amount of people just on this forum wind up getting the run around from various parts suppliers/tradesmen/etc. when they're trying to finish a project.

I feel like it's the standard way most of these trades run their business. They take on too many projects (insurance jobs, etc), then start missing deadlines, start pissing people off, then when someone complains, they jump to that project, then someone else complains, so they jump there, and they end up wasting more time jumping from car to car, rather than just putting poo poo in the order it came in, and finishing it in that order. I can understand if you're waiting on parts, to jump to the next, but once they show up, jump back to the car that came in first.

Quite frankly, I'm tired of the poo poo, and if I ever do another project, I'm just going to learn how to do body work/paint, and do it myself. Even if it means hooking up fans to exhaust out of my garage, and painting in there, I'm going to do it. 1 and a half years is just loving absurd, even with the chrome drama (which ate up about 3 months).

BrokenKnucklez
Apr 22, 2008

by zen death robot
I dealt with that with just getting a fender painted for my car. seriously, it had maybe 5 square foot that needed paint shot, and it took 5 months.

I am with you though, if I could learn how to do that poo poo, I wouldn't really need any one for outside work, except for tires and exhaust.

Slow is Fast
Dec 25, 2006

Paint and body guys loving blow. I dropped off cherokee doors to a friend who was going to have his "paint and body guy" do them. It's now nearly August and I haven't hung them yet because they're still sitting at this poo poo dicks shop. loving mask and blast and get that poo poo out the door rear end in a top hat!

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Seat Safety Switch posted:

drat! Why are chroming guys always so unreliable?

quote:

Quote from the perfect in every way movie

quote:

Quote from the perfect in every way movie

quote:

Quote from the perfect in every way movie

quote:

Quote from the perfect in every way movie

That was always going to be the answer :D

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

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some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

I just hope it all goes back together properly and the workers didn't lose anything through this saga.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep

Way2slow posted:

I feel like it's the standard way most of these trades run their business. They take on too many projects (insurance jobs, etc), then start missing deadlines, start pissing people off, then when someone complains, they jump to that project, then someone else complains, so they jump there, and they end up wasting more time jumping from car to car, rather than just putting poo poo in the order it came in, and finishing it in that order. I can understand if you're waiting on parts, to jump to the next, but once they show up, jump back to the car that came in first.

I found the mythical awesome body guy in my area and discovered his secret. He's retired. He used to run a big operation and then sold it. He retired, built a giant paint booth in his massive barn like garage, and now only takes on walk in traffic (he has a tiny sign on a dirt road), and fun projects from past contacts for beer money. Aside from my Corolla he was going deep on a Sockington like rocker replacement on a Durango and restoring a whole bunch of classic Japanese land cruisers some buddy of his imported.

He only takes on what he can finish and gave me a two week time period to get to my car. He finished in one week. Went the extra mile and used the leftover paint to touch up some areas missing paint completely unrelated to the repair and didn't charge extra. Repainted the steel wheels black because he wanted it to look nice when I picked it up. I love this guy and he's done a bunch of work for co-workers and everyone is happy.

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)

Slow is Fast posted:

Paint and body guys loving blow.
So do most mazda rotary shops.
Once I dropped a car off with new carbs and manifold, asked them to fit that while installing a 5spd man box. Took them 3 months to return me a car that doesn't run with a $1200 bill.
Another time and another place I dropped off a car with EFI to get them to tune it. 12 months and a turbo and engine rebuild (it was burning oil and smoking, only one of them was at fault, they rebuilt both), they have have only done a basic fuel map, never dynoed it to properly tune, they bill me $2500 and tell me to get it out of their shop unfinished.

Another time I got a complete strip and media blast on a mazda shell, they kept it for 9 months, lost pieces of trim, only gave it an etch prime and told me to get it out of their shop. Because I wasn't interested in a $4k just paint job on top of the repairs I wanted, they weren't interested in working any more on straightening and welding plus priming $4k job they charged me. So I paid $4k just for a fraction of the work they were supposed to do and they lost stuff.

Any specialist that thinks their poo poo doesn't stink usually treats customers like crap.
All three incidences at different shops. Perth is a small place and there's very few people at the top of their game/skills here back then. These guys/shops were actually the best and highly recommended at the time but screwed me over.

Those are the reasons why I learnt to DIY when it comes to cars.

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 12:13 on Jul 31, 2015

Way2slow
Sep 14, 2007

Not a Miata!
Unannounced drop by the car today revealed:
The jackass hasn't done poo poo.

My stepfather spoke with his helper (in spanish, so the owner couldn't understand), and made a deal to get the poo poo done, as the jackass claimed "Well I need help to get this stuff done, I don't have anyone else". No excuses now, and the other guy said he'd work alone if he had to get the job done. Regardless of whether it's done or not, it's coming out Friday, end of story. If it's not done, he's getting slapped with a lawsuit for the bill it takes to get it finished at another shop, as there's more than enough evidence supporting us at this point (missed deadlines, damaged parts that he broke, and said he would replace, but hasn't, amongst other things, we can easily prove he's not capable of doing the job at this point). I'm done dicking around.

SquirrelGrip
Jul 4, 2012

8ender posted:

I found the mythical awesome body guy in my area and discovered his secret.

Fo3 posted:

So do most mazda rotary shops.

my mythical body guy is a rotary lad who moved over from nz. his secret is you buy him a beer and your best friends

and most "performance" shops here in aus are just poo poo

i cant imagine handing something like the XKE across to any body

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

poo poo like this is why I'm paranoid about taking my cars anywhere, even to get tires mounted, they gently caress poo poo up doing that too.

My favorite is when the shop that ordered and installed the wrong springs on my MR2, put the old ones back on and charged me for all the labor :v:

Hugh G. Rectum
Mar 1, 2011

The last great Subaru guy I knew got shot over the $40 he had in the register at the shop :(

Pretty Boy Floyd
Mar 21, 2006
If you'll gather round me children...
^^ Wow, so hosed up.

Yeah, I hate letting anyone else touch my car. Today I had the back glass installed on my e39 wagon. They butchered anything that needed to be taken apart with awls and picks. The worst is how they can get away with it, because what can you do when it is so minor?

Adiabatic
Nov 18, 2007

What have you assholes done now?
That's so hosed.

This right here is the reason I keep in touch with an old, curmudgeny, idealistic attorney and make sure I have a good cash buffer to sick him on douchebags. I have no issue spending money to gently caress these types of people's days up, and I'm glad you're gonna squeeze this fucker. Keep us updated on the legal poo poo.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
I'm still bitter about the hackjob the PDR guys made of a car I haven't owned for several years now.

RIP Paul Walker
Feb 26, 2004

Years ago, I put brand new front corner lights in my e46. Brought it to a highly recommended BMW specialist for an alignment and corner balance (which he did an awesome job on) and asked him to replace the front turn signal bulbs as one was burned out and they're tricky to do without breaking. Guess what he broke... Now sometimes they pop out while driving.

Reasons why I work on my own poo poo.

That doesn't even begin to touch on the clusterfuck that were all of my previous body shop experiences tho. Holy poo poo body guys are almost all shitbags.

Way2slow
Sep 14, 2007

Not a Miata!
Liberated the car from the body shop today.
Horn is broken now, the badge is hosed, and it honks when turning. It didn't do that before. Fun stuff. Also, the motif bar needs to be put on, they managed to lose the mounts.
Windshield wasn't put back in, because he couldn't find anyone to insert the stainless steel tubes for the heater core. I'm doing that myself now it seems.
A couple blemishes here and there, and of course, interior/top needs replacement still.



Pomp and Circumcized
Dec 23, 2006

If there's one thing I love more than GruntKilla420, it's the Queen! Also bacon.
Looks great though!! I hope you manage to work out a discount considering the work they didn't do and the things they broke. Good luck, can't wait to see it all together!

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


ShittyPostmakerPro posted:

Looks great though!! I hope you manage to work out a discount considering the work they didn't do and the things they broke. Good luck, can't wait to see it all together!

Discount my rear end, the only thing they deserve is a big fat lawsuit. :colbert:

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

Seat Safety Switch posted:

I'm still bitter about the hackjob the PDR guys made of a car I haven't owned for several years now.

What shop was this (if they even exist)? I'm taking my car to get the hail damage PDR'ed out and I hope my insurance agent chose a good shop (KhS) :ohdear:

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
Sorry dude, it was KHS. They're incompetent hail chasers.

Go to Eco Dentworks if you can.

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

Seat Safety Switch posted:

Sorry dude, it was KHS. They're incompetent hail chasers.

Go to Eco Dentworks if you can.

Good to know. I got a weird feeling sitting in their lobby while they appraised my car that something didn't feel totally above board regarding their whole operation.

Maybe it was the fact it was just me and the receptionist in there, or that the place reeked of fresh house paint, or the Jeff Dunham YouTube clips playing on the TV.

MrChips fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Aug 9, 2015

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
When they hosed up my car they worked out of an abandoned Halloween costume pop-up store that used to be a failed Chevrolet dealer.

Way2slow
Sep 14, 2007

Not a Miata!
So, haven't updated this in awhile due to all the delays.

Basically, the process thus far goes like this:
1)Begin to continue assembly of car
2) Roadblock (missing parts, damaged parts, improperly assembled parts from body shop)
3) Wait for replacements (2-3 weeks, sometimes longer)
4) Cycle back to 1).


So far, the road blocks have been:
Many bolts attaching the dash were gone. Found replacements, attached dash.
Replaced all lights behind the dash, because I was there, and it was easy with the windshield off.
Rebuilt the dash (so few words, but so many actions. This was about a month long process).
In putting the top properly on the car, I found that all four bolts holding the top in were not the proper bolts. This was obvious as there was tons of play in the top itself, when there should not have been. Sadly, he used whatever bolts he could find, which weren't the proper threading. So that meant that on top of getting the proper bolts (long wait), I had to retap the threads to make the right bolt fit.
He had pieces chromed with the mount bolts in place for the motif bar, which should not have been done, as the mounts needed to be removed and replaced, and now those bolts are good and stuck in the bumper.
Getting the windshield put in wasn't too bad.
The car barely ran when it came out, now it runs, but still needs more tuning, and likely more carb cleaning.
The brake booster was replaced, so now it stops like a champ.
He broke the antenna. Big whoop, but replacing it was a bitch. I don't know if the British guys designing it said to each other "Hey, how can we make this an absolute bitch to replace?", or something, but it probably should have been a two man operation.
The steering wheel play was discovered to be caused by two missing bushings, and he put the split cones in backwards. Why he was taking the steering apart, I have no idea. He touched a lot of things he shouldn't have.
The horn button was broken, and it turns out there's this complicated assembly that runs down the center of the steering shaft and blah blah, innards. Those were alll stolen/missing, and for the most part discontinued. Tracked down and ordered replacements.
The passenger seat still isn't in, it's missing a screw for the mount.. That still needs to be ordered.
The problem is each roadblock is a decent wait, and you won't know it till you get to it, and assembly kinda has to be in a certain order.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

meatpimp posted:

I just hope it all goes back together properly and the workers didn't lose anything through this saga.

:( Sometimes I hate when I'm right.

Way2slow
Sep 14, 2007

Not a Miata!
Managed to use an easy out and get the chromed in bolts removed.
The motif bar is now mounted in the grill properly.

Of course, this involved removing the front bumpers/chrome, removing the chromed in bolts, attaching the new motif mount, re-mounting them, and then attaching the motif bar.

Small steps.

Way2slow fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Dec 27, 2015

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:

I had a model of your car when I was a kid. Gorgeous.

charliemonster42
Sep 14, 2005

We. Need. Updates.

Way2slow
Sep 14, 2007

Not a Miata!
Have not updated in awhile. Waiting on parts is a PITA.


So, finally got it running solid, and ran into a problem with the clutch not engaging after a gear change or two. Looked into it, found out it's because there was supposed to be a tab with a spring that pulled the slave back in. Well, it wasn't there. I'm guessing it rusted and disintegrated. So had to get that replaced, which was a good 2 week wait. Got that in place, and it fixed the problem. Took it out for a spin, and after going over a minor dip (nothing you'd even flinch at), there was a loud tang, and the car was a tad louder than usual.

One of the flexpipes that goes from the exhaust manifold to the muffler had broken due to rust, and a final nudge from the dip apparently gave it the final push to break. No big deal, maybe re-weld it, right? Nope; it'd been re-welded numerous times, and this was the last hurrah. The mufflers needed replacing. Might as well replace it all. So I ordered a complete exhaust kit, headers to tail. I say headers, because it comes in 2 3 piece exhaust headers, don't ask me why, I don't know. So there goes 2 grand, but eh, I knew this was par for the course, and replace it with nice stuff, never worry again.

Well, apparently, that means it had to get custom fabbed by the shop that made it (decent fitment too). Which took over 3 months.

Finally it shows up, I install it, and in jacking up the rear, the rear diff cover shifted just a bit, and the seal broke. Not a big deal, a 3 dollar seal... Ordered and got it, and will be replacing that this weekend. Anyway, so yeah, now it has a proper exhaust, and is actually much better sounding (turns out, the old mufflers had holes in them where I could not see them, and the connector pipes weren't exactly fully connected, and many other miscellaneous things here and there, including but not limited to not having the rear half of the exhaust at all...

Once I get the seal swapped, I'll try and grab some pictures, and maybe a nice video now that it sounds like the smooth kitten it is.

Way2slow
Sep 14, 2007

Not a Miata!



So I replaced the rear diff cover seal, and in doing so, became part man, part liquid gasket. This is because there isn't actually enough room to remove the diff cover entirely, and put it on a table. Nope, it had to stay up there, while I tried to place the gasket (while having it's bead of liquid gasket on both sides), so working in a very tight space, plus trying to get it all lined up was not so easy, but I believe I did it ok. Will know more tomorrow, if it leaks when I put fluid in.

So it's got the rear resonators now, which it never had.

Didn't mention all the other nightmares that have happened between the last major update and now.

Step father was flipping (buying and selling) a harley. One of the people who took it on a test drive did not properly put the kickstand down, and of course, it fell into the car, so now it's got a large dent in the side. I believe this is called Murphy's Law. Luckily, he said he would pay for all damages, but I haven't yet handled that. Here's hoping he lives up to his word. I know where the guy lives too, so I guess that's a plus.

Re-did the steering wheel bushing, as it was broken by the body guy (that was why it was honking all the drat time).
Replaced the brake master.
Of course, the entire exhaust was replaced, and it now sounds much smoother than before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3uF9N9jIBc

Hopefully good news tomorrow.

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TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches
such lovely sounds

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