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kznlol
Feb 9, 2013
how is the first thing we hear synderen's cough

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kznlol
Feb 9, 2013
I love how this fight started and then 4 bkbs were activated in perfect sequence.

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013

Minrad posted:

Prior to dropping Eul:
749 / 1001 mana

After dropping Eul:
656 / 871 mana
After using Soul Ring:
809 / 871 mana
If he had picked up Eul again:
930 / 1001 mana

If he had just kept Eul in inventory and used soul ring:
909 / 1001 mana

Net gain:
+21 Mana
-2850 Networth

Does the effect of doing this get bigger if you're at lower mana?

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013

Knowlue posted:

Quick dropping euls for soul ring is fine most of the time, the biggest mistake that swindle made was dropping it in that specific spot. It was an undroppable spot so his euls was shifted from the initial drop point, causing him to spam in the wrong spot. He still hosed up though.

Taking that kind of a risk for 21 mana isn't "fine" any time outside of like the first 5 minutes of the game.

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013

botany posted:

puppey has no items. is that normal? (i dont play chen)

It's not normal but it's not really that bad either if the rest of your team gets to buy greedy starting items because you buy all the support items.

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013

Knowlue posted:

I don't think you realize how fast you can drop an item, soul ring, and pick up your item. If he swindle drops it in a better spot he would only lose it if fng blinks echo immediately as the item is dropped

I don't think you realize how tiny the expected value of an additional 21 mana is.

Especially 25 minutes into the game or whatever it is. 21 mana is essentially indistinguishable from worthless at that point.

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013

stoutfish posted:

guyyssss what if devolving a habit that is 99% of the time positive means you make a miiissstttaaakkkke

It's positive 100% of the time, unless you make a mistake.

The issue is the potential gain is so tiny as to not be worth the also tiny risk. If something like this had happened in a situation like early laning phases where he desperately needs every point of mana, it's a perfectly good play.

But you're actually retarded if you think there was any justification for doing it when he did it.

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013
the only play by play caster who isn't completely terrible is od

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013

Groovelord Neato posted:

odpixel is loving terrible and looks like Rocky Dennis are you people loving kidding.

Yeah but he's better than Tobi, LD, or Ayesee.

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013
goddamnit rtz

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013

CampingCarl posted:

Please rate play by play casters by how easily they are tuned out so you can hear the guy who sometimes has something useful to say.

od > literally everyone else > tobi > ayesee > ld

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013

Groovelord Neato posted:

you people are goddamn clowns.

sorry for speaking the truth

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013
JUST TAKE THE RAX YOU DUMB BUTTHOLES

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013

Ragingsheep posted:

I saw IG was like 20k down. How the gently caress did they win this?

they didnt hit buildings

its like im actually playing and watching my own pub team chase people into fountain instead of hitting buildings

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013
what on earth is happening

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013
oh god my heart i cant take this

CLOCKWERK MIDAS WHY

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013
well they aren't cloud9 at least

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013

Internet Kraken posted:

What is his winrate in this TI anyways?

41%

[edit] jesus

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013
i am extremely concerned :ohdear:

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013
i nearly had another heart attack

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013
I CANT TAKE THIS ANYMORE

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013
STOP CHASING PEOPLE RTZ

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013

No Safe Word posted:

RTZ why the gently caress did you BKB your first life with aegis


does bkb stop the requiem damage?

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013
thank god

secret wont be eliminated before my arteezy jersey arrives

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013
the hao luna inspiration

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013
we just picked razor and went mid and chilled

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013
those were some great shots

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013
the dankest of games

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013
oh my god what is happening to this thread

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013
this game is either going to end in the next 15 minutes or go 90+ i'm loving calling it

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013
ok no its over

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013
It is incredible how big a difference in the quality of play there is between this and the Secret/VP series.

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013
iceiceice running over to check where they are in moonlight shadow rofl

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013
Yeah I don't really see who Secret could replace S4 with that would make things any better.

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013
wait is ta supposed to be losing to shadowfiend early

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013

Chimp_On_Stilts posted:

Wait, couriers aren't spell immune? I would have sworn up and down that they're spell immune.

Is just the flying one spell immune?

You can't damage them with spells but you can root them and poo poo or something

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013
glorious china

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013
i dont see how cdec's draft is meta breaking

its not like anyone isn't expecting pl by this point

kznlol
Feb 9, 2013

Internet Kraken posted:

And yet CDEC keeps stomping all over people with it.

Yeah, but they do it by straight up outplaying people and winning fights they have no business winning.

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kznlol
Feb 9, 2013
As I was going to the bathroom, when I approached the change in floor from laminate to tiles, for half a second I was worried that I hadn't checked for mines on the highground.

help me :negative:

[edit] oh wait technically wrong thread but whatever

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